Skip Navigation

Buy European @feddit.uk

Sunshine (she/her) @piefed.ca

1w ago

‘The Chinese will not pause’: Volvo and Polestar bosses urge EU to stick to 2035 petrol car ban

www.theguardian.com ‘The Chinese will not pause’: Volvo and Polestar bosses urge EU to stick to 2035 petrol car ban

Exclusive: Swedish carmakers push to retain target as Germany lobbies to help its own industry by softening cutoff date

‘The Chinese will not pause’: Volvo and Polestar bosses urge EU to stick to 2035 petrol car ban

Exclusive: Swedish carmakers push to retain target as Germany lobbies to help its own industry by softening cutoff date

Climate - truthful information about climate, related activism and politics. @slrpnk.net

‘The Chinese will not pause’: Volvo and Polestar bosses urge EU to stick to 2035 new petrol car ban

www.theguardian.com /business/2025/dec/02/china-volvo-polestar-eu-2035-petrol-car-sweden-germany

‘The Chinese will not pause’: Volvo and Polestar bosses urge EU to stick to 2035 new petrol car ban

141 9

42 comments

It's just insanity. This flip floping around doesn't help the automobile industries at all, the switch will come and instead of preparing for it they instead invest time and money to bribe politicians uh I mean lobbying.

Both Volvo and Polestar are Chinese as far as ownership is concerned.
- And both are mostly EV already, Polestar fully. I mean they're right but not really objective
  
  It's not only Geely owned manufacturers saying this though. The ceo of Stellantis said the exact same thing a week ago. Companies that did their homework will make the deadline easily, whereas the laggards will suffer.
  And then you have Volkswagen, who went full EV, screwed it up by half-assing it, backpedalled under shareholder pressure and is now at the forefront of this lobbying.
  
  Is it necessary to be "objective" in this case?
  It's not like the ICE manufacturing companies are any more objective.
  Sometimes there's just a right and wrong, and we don't need 50/50 objectivity to see what's what.
- Volvo and Polestar are Swedish companies. Once a time Volvo was owned by Ford. The company was as Swedish with an American owner as with a Chinese owner.

Yes! We should stick to it! Its the german car industries fault for not keeping up. Not our problem! We shouldnt pay the price for it!
- Volvo cars and Polestar are both Chinese majority owned lol
  
  I didnt say we should buy them. Obviousely we need to make our own!
- Aah yes and the German car manufacturers get the same amount of subsidies from the government as the Chinese ones do?

Yes, please race to see which country electrify and transition away from fossiel fuel the fastest.

Dear Swedes, please save us.
- Dear Chinese*
  Volvo and Polestar are owned by the Chinese.
  
  The article is explicitly about the company CEO's objections to the change of course in Brussels. Neither of them are Chinese.
  Anyhow, if it's the Chinese that save us from shooting ourselves in the foot, that's fine too.
  
  I would rather see the Union succum than to see it a vassal of china

So glad that EU governments will offer an EV to anyone who can't afford but needs a car by 2035.
- It's banning new sales. Not pre-existing cars. Besides, used BEV prices are coming down too with 6 year old cars just coming down below 10k€. That's kinda important, as 2020 saw a big uptick in number of available models and cars sold.
  So given that, why aren't you asking for a beat* up ICE-car today for anyone that can't afford one but needs one today?
  And if you really need a car, you probably drive quite a bit and if so, you really should look at EVs anyways since the running costs are a good deal lower.
- Its banning production and sales of new fossile fule cars. Not banning the cars themself
  
  Not banning the cars themself
  Except for banning them in specific areas and raising taxes and insurance on them, sure, it's not banning the sale of new (and used?) ICEs... just screwing over whomever wants/needs to keep them and would rather avoid contributing to a landfill.
  Not to mention most new cars, regardless of drivetrain, are spyware computers on wheels with built-in obsolescence.

42 comments