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4w ago

Psychological warfare

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I once did an even more extreme version of this. I showed up with a contract for a new job that would give me a 30% raise and an opportunity to work from home as much as I want. I told my boss to match that offer or I would sign it.
He took a few days to decide and made me an offer that was significantly worse, so now I have a new job, more money and haven’t seen the inside of a corporate office in months. My old team has been completely dissolved because the old crew left faster than they could train replacements.
- Suppose they did match it, you stayed, and then everything fell apart. Or worse, they resented your ultimatum and fired you the moment they had a replacement. I would just always take the new offer.
  
  Never accept a counteroffer, they’re just going to use it to buy time to find your replacement.

And then everyone clapped
- This could definitely work if you are doing something that cant easily be replaced. Maybe tell some colleagues about your "interview" as well.
  
  I had to use the phrase "I am going to lose my home without a substantial raise" to get a raise at my last job
  My current job is so niche that I straight up told my boss I'd quit without a raise and he made it happen.
  
  I got laid off at the end of last year along with most of the company. It was less than 3 months before I had a contract in hand to return as an independent contractor at a noticeable increase in pay. The company has however been dragging their feet on extending me a job offer. I've been continuing to interview on the side for full time employment (and I've gotten super close to an offer a couple of times and I'm currently waiting on a recent interview) my plan is to present my job offer to the CTO who it sounds like wants to hire me but hasn't been pushing too hard on that aspect of the corporate politics and say "hey I'd love to stay and keep doing what I'm doing, but I need benefits and the level of commitment that Full Time Employment would provide to me. Can you get me a job offer or should I accept this one?" and see how that goes
- Have you considered the fact this may have occurred outside the US.

The next week he got ~~the raise~~ replaced
- In most of the developed world that would be blatantly illegal.
  But yeah, unions are a scam, right?

I did a similar thing except it was a real interview I went to and then I took that job.
- LPT

Probably not going to work if you have a non office job, as in an hourly employee, which are the majority of people.
- Show up to a construction site, retail, fast food, etc in a suit with a resume folder. 😂
  
  "Look, boss, I could make 135 times what I do here as a trader for that bank. And that's without the bonuses. So either you match up and I keep on digging your trench, or I'm out of here.'
  
  A polo and some nice chinos would work better in that scenario as it carries more feasibility. (Also, stop by an office supplies store to grab some blank 2x4 labels to write you name on and 'forget' to remove from your chest)
  
  This was the kind of surprise twist punchline I was expecting.

I recently did the WFH version of this. It didn't work.

Kobayashi Maru

I don't even ask for raises anymore. My employer either just gives me regular raises or I just go elsewhere. If I have to ask then even if they do give me a raise it still means that they wanted to rip me off. I don't work for people that want to rip me off.
My job isn't to haggle, my job is to fix shit. If they want to make me haggle then I'll just go work for someone who doesn't.

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