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Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 23rd November 2025 - awful.systems

Want to wade into the sandy surf of the abyss? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

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  • Meanwhile in A Song of Ice and Fire fandom, they published a deluxe illustrated version of A Feast for Crows which is blatantly obviously "AI" "art", Like it's bad generic souless fantasy "art" where you often can't even recognise which character it's meant to depict. And now the responsible art director is in damage control mode, claiming that they'd ever use "AI" and unsubtly blaming the hired "artist" (one Jeffrey R. McDonald), even though it takes like 15 seconds to spot that these illustrations are completely inappropriate for the book. It feels like they hired the cheapest they could and didn't care about anything else than cost-cutting.

    And behold, the publisher is on record saying they'd do exactly that:

    Mr. Malaviya’s primary goal is growth. After the collapse of the Simon & Schuster deal, it became clear Penguin Random House could not buy its way out of the decline, so much of its growth will have to come organically — by selling more books. Mr. Malaviya said that, hopefully, A.I. will help, making it easier to publish more titles without hiring ever more employees … Last year, the company laid off about 60 people and offered voluntary buyouts for longtime employees.

    Some of the fan backlash with samples of the "art", if you must hurt your eyes: thread 1, thread 2.

    Other than warped architecture, wonky perspectives, Escherian objects etc., the characters don't even look like or dress in the colours of the chapters they're "Illustrating". Those who know the fandom know how important heraldry is for the series, there's no sigils in the illustrations and people wear the wrong colours, etc. This is the series were a noblewoman showing up to a party in a green dress rather than black was a declaration of war. Tywin Lannister, famously bald, is depicted in his funeral with hair and with a crown, you know, to illustrate the passage that says he never wore a crown. He also looks identical to King Viserys from the House of the Dragon TV series. His daughter Cersei is shown mourning him with a blue dress, as in the same character whose house colours are red-gold, in the same chapter that says she's wearing funeral black.

    At some point a character has a crucifix

  • Continuation of the lesswrong drama I posted about recently:

    https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/HbkNAyAoa4gCnuzwa/wei-dai-s-shortform?commentId=nMaWdu727wh8ukGms

    Did you know that post authors can moderate their own comments section? Someone disagreeing with you too much but getting upvoted? You can ban them from your responding to your post (but not block them entirely???)! And, the cherry on top of this questionable moderation "feature", guess why it was implemented? Eliezer Yudkowsky was mad about highly upvoted comments responding to his post that he felt didn't get him or didn't deserve that, so instead of asking moderators to block on a case-by-case basis (or, acasual God forbid, consider maybe if the communication problem was on his end), he asked for a modification to the lesswrong forums to enable authors to ban people (and delete the offending replies!!!) from their posts! It's such a bizarre forum moderation choice, but I guess habryka knew who the real leader is and had it implemented.

    Eliezer himself is called to weigh in:

    It's indeed the case that I haven't been attracted back to LW by the moderation options that I hoped might accomplish that. Even dealing with Twitter feels better than dealing with LW comments, where people are putting more effort into more complicated misinterpretations and getting more visibly upvoted in a way that feels worse. The last time I wanted to post something that felt like it belonged on LW, I would have only done that if it'd had Twitter's options for turning off commenting entirely.

    So yes, I suppose that people could go ahead and make this decision without me. I haven't been using my moderation powers to delete the elaborate-misinterpretation comments because it does not feel like the system is set up to make that seem like a sympathetic decision to the audience, and does waste the effort of the people who perhaps imagine themselves to be dutiful commentators.

    Uh, considering his recent twitter post... this sure is something. Also" "it does not feel like the system is set up to make that seem like a sympathetic decision to the audience" no shit sherlock, deleting a highly upvoted reply because it feels like too much effort to respond to is in fact going to make people unsympathetic (at the least).

  • I wanted to highlight this post from our own @self: https://mas.to/@zzt/115545758401562713

    the feeling of launching an unreal tournament 2004 server by telling ucc-bin, the unrealscript compilation environment that knows itself as UnrealOS, to evaluate the editable scripts that made up the core of unreal tournament, its rich web admin interface, and the ecosystem of tools and facilities that make it nicer to host than quake, and remembering that unrealscript and self-hosted servers are both long dead and all this tech is used to make kids gamble in fortnite now

    betrayal, that’s it

    I hardly ever ran a server, as during the era I lived out in the country and could only get barely-capable rural wireless broadband, but it is galling what Epic threw away, especially now that they've memory-holed UT2K3/2K4 off of storefronts like GOG. It was perhaps the first commercial game I remember having a completely seamless cross-platform experience with, including Linux. As long as I had my CD key and the data files handy, it didn't matter what OS I was installing on, just download the installer and go. I remember provisioning entire LAN parties and having a blast (and then reusing the CD key didn't matter because we were partying out in the country with no chance of a good online experience anyway). Glad I was able to snag it from GOG before delisting, because I don't know what happen to my original Mac DVD.

  • I feel like "we'll just build a world model" is on the same level as saying " we'll just solve the P vs NP problem."

  • Somehow, HPMoR could have been even worse.

    I ruled no intelligence enhancement magic in HPMOR because otherwise it turns into Project Lawful.

    https://xcancel.com/allTheYud/status/1992265494507008382#m

    • Ron reached into his bag and pulled out a bottle of instant death potion (known to muggles as cyanide) and force fed it to Harry Potter. He was rewarded with accolades, wealth and fame and lived happily ever after.

      • Ron reached into his bag and pulled out a bottle of potion that makes you talk like a conservative bullshit artist and said "Have you ever heard of Chesterton's fence, Potter?" Harry, hearing a genetive case proper noun spoken as a part of two word noun phrase suddenly realized he was no longer talking to a strawman of a simpleton. "The burden of proof is in fact on you, the reformer, to first make a strong case for status quo to prove you understand why things are the way they are before you can even begin to challenge the state of things." Harry was immediately convinced quidditch is good as is and voted Tory twice.

  • The generic abyss of artificial intelligence | John R. Gallagher

    All this business talk from CEOs about AI automating work comes down to them not valuing the input of workers. You can hear the jubilant ejaculative rhetoric about robots because robots represent firing all the workers. CEOs see their workers as interchangeable laborers who fit inside of templates. They want workers who pull the levers of templates. They’ve always wanted this since the individual revolution. But now the templates are no longer physical commodities but instead our stories, our genres.

    Call it template capitalism. Social media companies are already operating under this logic through the templates they force on users. As the car companies have done by forcing drivers into templates. Or shoe companies have accomplished with standard sizes. There’s nothing stopping the knowledge sectors of the economy from extending that logic to workers. Knowledge workers are being deskilled by making them obey the generic templates of LLMs.

    Template capitalism hollows out the judgment of individual knowledge workers by replacing slowly accreted genre experiences with the summed average of all genres. Under this system, knowledge workers merely ensure the machines don’t make errors (or what the AI companies have just relabeled “hallucinations”). The nuance of situated knowledge evaporates, leaving behind procedural obedience. The erosion of individual judgment is the point. Workers who diverge from the ordained path of LLMs are expendable. If you challenge the templates, you get fired.

    They've always wanted this, indeed. There's some comfort to me in the reminder that this year's layoffs are no different than the last cycle, except maybe the excuses are thinner.

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