Chuck Schumer Helps Pull Democrats Back From Brink Of Courage
Chuck Schumer Helps Pull Democrats Back From Brink Of Courage
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Chuck Schumer Helps Pull Democrats Back From Brink Of Courage
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This is a bot ^^
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How do you know?
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Can you expand on this?
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OOTL & non-American
What's going on?
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He is the Senate Minority Leader - the head of the opposition. Which opposition essentially rolled over and approved many of Trump's appointments.
Right now, it looks like they might cave and pass legislation to re-open the government, handing more tax breaks to the wealthy and screwing over the 99%.
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Have you guys considered rebellion yet?
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And the only thing they're getting is reinstatement of illegally fired employees and a vote on healthcare.
Sure maybe it'll be bad for some Republicans to vote against healthcare, but that doesn't mean anything to those that rely on it.
Thankfully this is only partial funding. Some parts of the government will get full funding and others will be on another CR through January.
If Republicans vote no on healthcare then by the time tge funding on CR expires Americans will be paying higher healthcare prices. Giving them more leverage to force a yes vote with the second round of budget talks.
I get what they are trying to do, but caving now with no real solutions makes them look weak to the public and definently erodes their power
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Enough Democrats caved that they’re ending the shutdown and people are still going to lose healthcare meaning it was entirely for nothing.
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The Republicans are trying to take away health insurance from ~42 million lower income Americans by making it cost many, many times the amount it does now.
Trump has been bullshitting us about his big new plan to replace Obamacare for 9 or more years now, but he's obviously never even thought about it. So he's just killing it, and fucking over Americans who need it.
The democrats refused to accept this, and this led to a government shutdown when the Republicans became obstinant and refused to bargain. That shutdown is going to end now because the democrats just caved. They received nothing, and those 42 million Americans are now fucked.
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did the dems cave already?
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They had a meeting on Thursday to discuss caving, not even two full days after landslide victories all over your country.
Weak sauce politicians need to be replaced with progressives that are unbought and unchained from towing the status quo line.
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Am I pissed?
Yes.
Are people going to get their SNAP so they can eat and will federal employees start getting paid again and will we avoid a catastrophic holiday travel season and can we shut the government down again in a few months if Republicans don't honor their word, which they won't?
Yes.
This only keeps the government open a while longer. If they fuck around again, they can find out again.
I'd like to think this is a strategy on the Dem's part to show the country that the Republican party is willing to repeatedly shut down the government and hurt Americans instead of coming to the table and negotiating and that the Dems want to make sure people don't starve. I doubt that's it and it's most likely just cowards within the party caving to corporate interests.
Primary them.
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They can just pass a budget with a simple majority in January, the republicans have no reason to honor anything they agreed to. The democrats sold out their position.
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They did this to head off a left reaction. That is all.
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I doubt that’s it and it’s most likely just cowards within the party caving to corporate interests.
I also want to point out that no honorable person goes into politics (at least not the high levels where they could have high impact) because a lot of people like you always shit on them whatever they do anyways. There's no recognition, there's no thanks from the population, you're always constantly fighting and attacked even by those that you are supposed to care about. Why would any sane person go through this?
I'm asking you to reflect on what you're saying and whether it really helps us get better people into government.
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Recognition and thanks for what, though?
Do you want me to congratulate them for not shitting themselves, too? I'll congratulate and thank them when they start actually representing me, instead of capitulating without gaining a single thing at all.
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If a person is going into politics because they crave fame and recognition, they're a shitty politician and we shouldn't reward that kinda behavior. They certainly aren't honorable.
The people who should go into politics are people with firm principles who have something they believe in, and are willing to potentially take flack in order to achieve those goals. Unfortunately, that mostly describes the Republican party, and their principles suck, but it also describes Zohran Mamdani who should be the new model of Dem.
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Line them up against a wall and make the process slow.
It's literally this fucking meme every time.
People get told over and over to vote Democrat to prevent fascism, and when the fascists end up elected, the Democrats just fucking collaborate with them anyways. No wonder they're scared of Mamdani.
USA is a single split personality party state
The illusion of choice is proudly sponsored by the New American Ruling Class.
One like they imagine themselves to be and one for how they really are
By now I think you should vote 3rd party. No, the dems aren't as bad as the fascists, but they won't save you from them either.
Absolutely. We need ranked choice voting to prevent spoiler effect. NYC used it well!
It's Italian fascits vs. German fascists.
Nazi collaborators aren't remembered fondly either.
My assumption was that the Republicans weren't going to shift --- a lot of the money they got for tax breaks for the wealthy came from pillaging Medicaid. They can't really back out and do their tax policy. I also didn't think that the Democrats were going to just block the budget until Trump leaves office.
So I think that if what you were hoping for was all the healthcare coming back, that probably wasn't going to be in the cards. I commented on roughly that earlier, that what I expected was one of the Republicans using the nuclear option (change the Senate rules to permit passing the budget without a supermajority), or the Democrats ending the shutdown without at least a full change on Medicaid.
The Democrats don't really have much by way of levers to pull, because the Republicans hold a trifecta. This is one of the few things that they can do, and it's a pretty weak lever.
So it really came down to a political play based on what will win more public support for the midterms. Will people shift Republican or Democratic? The Republicans will try to get people upset at the Democrats, to shift Republican. The Democrats will try to get people to shift Democratic. If the Democrats gain control of the House in the midterms, then they gain a substantial amount of leverage.
Will they do anything with it in this hypothetical? They had the trifecta for a brief time didn’t they? And didn’t really do anything substantial with it….