What's a recent game you've tried playing that isn't worth the hype?
What's a recent game you've tried playing that isn't worth the hype?
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Just played through Doom: Eternal cause it was on sale for 4€ a bit back. The entire time I was wishing I was playing Doom 2016..
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The new Doom games are all very different from each other. I liked what Doom 2016 was doing (even if it got repetitive) but really didn't enjoy Eternal because the constant juggling didn't sit with me. I haven't tried Dark Ages but it seems like it's doing something between 2016 and Eternal (not quite use what you want and not quite always juggle) while also adding its own dimension with the mix of melee and guns.
I would never recommend each Doom title based on the last title. But it doesn't mean I don't like what they're doing. I think it's brave to do its own thing instead of doing what is expected.
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Both of your comments are a testament to why I love the new Doom games -- they're different and don't seem to be meant to be enjoyed by every fan, every release, every time.
Apart from the first two games (and Doom 64 for that matter), each offers different gameplay and feel and it's so, so beautiful.
I feel lucky having a blast in each one. Doom 3 is my favorite, actually, especially with the vanilla flashlight (for the uninitiated: where you can either have your weapon out or the flashlight).
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Yeah. I didn't really enjoy it, but I got into it and finished it. Once I realized that you're expected to die and respawn frequently, and you don't lose anything when you do, playing went a lot better.
I still don't get that decision, because Doom has never been like that. Even arcade games don't do that. It just felt trivially cheap at that point.
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Dungeons and Dragons 5e is less fun than 3.5e IMO.
There was more of a sense of character progression, and ability differentiation in 3.5e.
5e achieves balance by flattening the power curve.
For example, the attack bonus for a level 20 Fighter in 5e is just 4 points higher than it was at level 1 - same as a 5e Wizard. Both get +2 at lvl 1 and +6 at lvl 20
In 3.5e, a level 20 fighter's attack bonus is 19 points higher than it was at level 1 (+1 to +20), but a wizard only gains half that much fighting prowess as they level up (+0 to +10).
All 5e characters are pretty much the same statistically & mechanically. Differentiation comes from role play, which is the least interesting part of the game for me.
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I think this is one of the reasons why Pathfinder 2e has been doing so well.
It's a middle ish ground and it feels good to progress.
My current issues with it are how underpowered the items are. So boring.
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I haven't played any 3.5e proper, but I understand Pillars of Eternity 1 is largely based on it, and I've played a handful of the 2e games. I dig a lot of the changes in 5e. I wouldn't say the power is so flat that the differentiation only comes down to role play; I'd say a lot of it comes from the apples and oranges comparisons between classes, like things beyond to-hit roles. Your fighter has no AoE attacks like the wizard has but has Second Wind and Action Surge, for instance. The advantage to flattening the differences a bit more is that your character's role is less preordained ("you are playing class X, so you must be responsible for Y") and that you are less hamstrung by the absence of one particular role, which scales better to small parties.
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5e character progression does feel kind of bland.
I feel the 5e rules are poorly organized, too. Lots of interdependent rules scattered far from each other in the books, and sometimes buried in the middle of seemingly unrelated sections, so unless you've memorized multiple chapters, understanding how to resolve common situations sometimes requires stopping the game for 15-30 minutes while someone digs through the books to find all the relevant factors. Even when you do find the relevant info, it's often in ambiguous language describing what could have been made perfectly clear with a few keywords. The books are pretty, and the text might be nice to read for entertainment, but they're pretty bad the the job of being game manuals.
Does 3.5e use the d20 system? Does it have the advantage/disadvantage mechanic? I like those aspects of 5e; they're simple and they help keep games moving along.
Maybe I should give it a try. Or perhaps 4e, which I have read does a better job of clearly defining its gameplay mechanics.
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2024 is even worse. On top of that, they also stack extra abilities, and try to give everyone everything.
One of these days I should try Pathfinder
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3.5e being the best is an opinion I've heard for my entire life. I would say preferring 5e is a more unpopular opinion.
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Differentiation comes from role play, which is the least interesting part of the game for me.
Can you explain why you would play a TTRPG if you're not interested in role play? Seems like a battle sim like warhammer, or just a video game might be the thing you're looking for.
As a DM, the cooperative story telling IS the interesting part. D&D has never been an airtight game system, it's a bunch if hand waving to give just enough illusion of structure and randomness so you don't feel like you're just arbitrarily deciding everything yourselves. But at the end of the day, you are. The characters and story you're left with is the only thing of value.
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I liked 4e the best.
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4e did some really cool stuff while also going a bit off the rails for me. I think overall I like 5E more, but we played a ton of 4e and I’ll always remember it fondly. I was really into the more defined roles, and how classes were a bit more self contained so they could just keep making more and more niche ones
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All the souls games. I don’t get it, they’re just no fun 🤷♂️
Also, never finished doom eternal, far too busy. Dark ages was great tho
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There was a time when I could not have imagined liking those kinds of games. My partner got me Dark Souls Prepare to Die Edition and I hated it. Hate may be too kind a word for how I felt. I’ve always loved metroidvanias and the style seemed right up my gothy, witchy alley, but I couldn’t get past the first basic zombie.
Then we watched a bunch of videos and realized that the game was designed to be played slowly and deliberately. There were no “junk” enemies and paying careful attention at all times was the game. When it clicked, it clicked, and now From Software games are my favorite.
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Souls games didn't make sense to me until I saw Giant Bomb play through Demon's Souls. Mechanics that I didn't know were there were explained in plain English, and then I could better understand where I went wrong when I died.
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All the souls games. I don’t get it
They're memorisation timesinks
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It depends on person and skill, a lot of people manage to beat a majority of bosses 1st try.
Also, personally, I just like using magic which makes some parts easier.
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My first attempt was Dark Souls 3. I went in expecting challenging but rewarding battles, and a mysterious world to explore. Unfortunately, I found myself bored within an hour every time I played, and gave up on it after maybe a dozen sessions.
I tried Elden Ring maybe a year or two later. I stuck with it for longer, but the experience was roughly the same. The combat felt tedious. The art and animation didn't appeal to my tastes. The world seemed big, but desolate. The controls somehow made me feel awkwardly disconnected from my character. Nothing about the game made me care about it at all. The biggest challenge was in keeping my eyelids open.
I wonder if I would find soulslikes more appealing if I had grown up on console games. They're clearly popular, but it seems they just aren't for me.
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I actually bought DS3 twice, For the PS4 the first time, and couldn't do anything. I'm not a console person by nature. Then I found out it was on PC, my jam, got it and OMG is that port shitty
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I love the fuck out of dark fantasy. The problem is that while souls-games and Elden Ring, are drenched with dark fantasy elements, the game execution itself just didn't appeal to me at all. I just don't like the idea of tediousness mixed with a scale of difficulty where all and any progress of mine are just dashed because a slight misstep.
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I enjoyed Blue Prince, I’m exactly who it was made for, but it was definitely much worse than people would lead you to believe.
The game makers had no respect for players’ time. You solve one of the large, run-independent puzzles and it all clicks, then it could take you several hours to playtime to luck into the conditions to actually test your solution. Everything takes longer than it should. It’s obvious that I’m going to toggle security settings every time I’m in the Security Room, why do you make me go through this slow as hell PC every time? It’s not for realism because no PC back then had such fantastical functionality, so why not make the PCs load screens faster? How does the slowness enhance the experience? Why not just put buttons on the wall you can toggle for the security settings, at least? There were times where I figured something out, and rather than spend ten hours trying to actually do the thing, I just looked up that part of a walkthrough to get the next info.
Really interesting game, but I did some napkin math and I wasted 25 avoidable hours during my playthrough (long unskippable loads and such) that could have been spend completing an entire different game.
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The game makers had no respect for players’ time.
I don't know that game, but the importance of respecting the player's time cannot be overstated.
I wish more game makers understood this and prioritized it accordingly.
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I absolutely agree with you, I got to a point where I had solved the "main" puzzle, but was struggling to complete other puzzles (that I knew the solution to) simply due to room draws.
I wanted to love the game, but it held itself back on the RNG design. It can be so detrimental to the game that I wouldn't recommend it to most people.
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I bought into the review hype, bought the game, then realized about two hours after the Steam refund window expired just how tedious this game felt to play.
I really wanted to like it, but it stopped being fun and started being so tedious that I uninstalled it.
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I bought it ages ago but finally decided go give it a go. From the first day I could tell it wasn't gonna be a game for me. Note-taking is basically mandatory, and it seems so easy just to get fucked out of a run by RNG.
Narrative seemed interesting but I feel like the whole "ability to decide what room you're going into" thing should be weaved into the story off the bat.
Neat concept but not for me, but I think since I've owned it for so long I'm outside of the refund window.
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Same. The game is fantastic but the RNG is only cool on paper and falls apart just a few hours into the game. The methods they give you to influence your luck are just not enough to do much at all.
It's really frustrating when you are trying to do something but you constantly have to do something else because that's what the game is giving you.
I cheated at the end and gave me infinite rerolls for rooms so I could create the layout I needed in that moment. Much better that way.
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Check out Seance of Blake Manor, doesn't have the rng
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It’s funny, I literally downloaded that one last night.
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You know, one man's trash is another man's treasure. I'd say Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 is worth playing for a lot of reasons, but I think it's got huge fundamental issues in both its combat and narrative design; it's still on the short list for most outlets' game of the year awards this year. Hades just got a sequel, and I didn't even care for the first one. For many people, those two games are just about the only roguelikes or -lites they've ever played, but I don't think they're even good ones of those; the level generation is so limited that you'll have seen all their permutations quite quickly, and the bonuses from boons just about all feel superfluous and interchangeable. Hollow Knight holds this legendary status among metroidvanias, and Silksong followed suit. I thought Hollow Knight was just fine, but I was surprised to find that this was the game with that sort of following. When facing the possibility of playing Silksong this year or about 5 other video games that came out this year, I don't think Silksong is making the cut.
But your mileage will absolutely vary. These games have hype for a reason: a lot of people love them. You might, too.
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A big part of the appeal of Hollow Knight and Hades are their respective art styles. They are both genuinely gorgeous games, and it really improves the experience. I would rather open up Hades again instead of, say, TBoI for exactly that reason, despite my thinking that TBoI is the better roguelike.
Admittedly I can't bring myself to enjoy Hollow Knight at all, but that's just an issue of me disliking metroidvanias.
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hades' strength is its narrative; hk's strength is its worldbuilding.
it's very difficult to stand out on pure gameplay in the 21st century.
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I'd go for CO:E33 too. Its a decent enough game but I don't understand the absolute hype it receives. Probably a 5/10 game for me.
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I can answer this for you. So imagine a genre of game that you grew up playing, loved, and sunk possibly thousands of hours in. Now imagine for like 15 years they only made the most dogshit version of that genre of game. Then someone comes along and makes a decent, even passable, modern version of that game.
It's like giving dirty water to a dehydrated person. Is the water good? Fuck yeah in the moment it's fantastic. Is the water the greatest water you've ever had? Well technically no, but please don't take away the dirty water please.
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I agree regarding Hollow Knight... It was fine. I don't really get the hype though, people would make you believe it's the best game ever made.
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All of the games you listed here were pretty under hyped IMO except for perhaps Silksong.
I understand this is all subjective, but I think you're leaning toward like indie gaming hipster material with this comment...and that's my opinion.
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I leaned toward games that came highly recommended that I actually played.
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Deep Rock Galactic. I was really excited to play it and I tried to like it. The colors and graphics were 10/10 awesome, I just found it to be extremely boring and repetitive.
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Very fair, I had a lot of fun with it as a casual game to relax with. Not so easy it's trivial, not so hard it needs a lot of thinking.
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For me, deep rock really shines when you're playing the higher hazard levels. Seeing a wall of the cave move because it's covered in enemies, and then hitting them with a fat boy gave me happy chemicals.
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Man I LOVE drg. A good team on a call made this the most fun I've had playing in recent years. Unfortunately, the population is lower and one may have trouble finding new players. Veterans are usually happy to help, but you'd need a patient one.
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Horizon: Zero Dawn. I have yet to finish it but apart from robot dinosaurs, it feels so generically open world… Admitedly, a very pretty-looking open world. Can‘t really get into the story so far either since it takes itself so seriously while I‘m having a hard time not thinking too much about how ridiculous its world is. So apart from sight-seeing, there hasn‘t been much in this game for me thus far.
Edit: This comment section is a treasure trove of hot takes, so many of my beloved games mentioned making me go „What the fuck…,“ I love it
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Dude. I have tried like 3 times to get into the horizon series. Just can’t do it. It’s so generic, just pretty.
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It's absolutely a generic open world game, bit that's not necessarily a bad thing. The formula is fun if it's done well, which I think it is for Horizon Zero Dawn. The combat style is also uncommon and provides a satisfying loop of stealth and bullet time mechanics.
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I don't think it was quite as generic at the time of release, but yeah I tend to agree
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I had a great time with that game with the difficulty turned up a few notches. It really makes you use the tools in your tool belt, plan ahead for weaknesses, and lay traps. Without that stuff, I likely would have found it to be a generic open world, too. The story will always be ridiculous, but even taking itself seriously, there's a payoff toward the end of the game where taking itself so seriously is still satisfying and makes sense, even with a world filled with absurd robot dinosaurs.
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I liked both games, but combat is ruined in the second. Literally just constant spamming of massive AOE attacks. All the nuance of the first is literally nuked from orbit.
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Took me awhile to get into it. I did eventually finish it. My criticism of the game was more that the dungeons aren’t really all that challenging and are mostly just places where the story advances. Not many puzzles or fights. You just do your fighting out in the open world. Also, eventually the fights are easy as you learn how to fight each type. Eventually you just avoid confrontations because they’re just time consuming.
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Elden Ring. It is good for what it is, probably the best in its genre, but after so many Soulsbornes, it just feels like more of the same. Formulaic.
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To me, the Souls combat does best in a tightly knit and highly curated environment. I really enjoyed Elden Ring but I do not think it was a step forward for the series. Open World worked to the detriment of the game IMO.
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I echoed this in another thread. I honestly feel like ER is the weakest "Soulsborne" game they've put out. It feels like a lot of conflicting design philosophies at once.
The lore and worldbuilding are phenomenal but gameplay-wise it falls short of what made their past games shine.
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It's definitely not the best in its genre, if only because they did away with the level design ethos that makes their other games so good.
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This is something that gets completely lost in the translation to an open world game. The DS trilogy, Bloodborne, and even the original Demon's Souls feel hand-crafted and carefully structured without being completely linear. ER loses a lot by leaving that formula behind.
On top of that, the boss/enemy design is imo some of the worst they've ever done. The past games (with DS2 being the one with the most exceptions) typically give you very fair but challenging fights. Telegraphs are clear without being slow and obvious. Particle effects and such are generally kept to a minimum to prevent visual clutter from taking over the screen. Bosses hit hard, but very few hits or combos, if any, would one-shot most builds outside of challenge runs. ER throws all of that out the window - bosses tend to hit like trucks, are visual clusterfucks (either enormous models with a terrible camera, tons of particle effects blasting out the ass, or both). I feel like the final boss of the DLC as an example is the most egregious example of this sort of design philosophy. Hell, Nightreign works so much better with the exact same designs because it's such a faster-paced game where getting knocked down once or twice isn't usually the end of a run.
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I (re)play Soulsborne for builds, and I think that's necessary to appreciate ER. Trying out all the spells and different weapons is most of the fun, the rest being trying them out on bosses.
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Fallout 4. I could never bring myself to finish it. The furthest I ever got was just before the Mass Fusion mission between the Institute and the Brotherhood, with the Railroad already dead. I just couldn't summon the will to continue. In every playthrough after that, I rush to Nuka World, finish a few parks there, and call it quits again.
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I often stay away of new games because that exactly, the hype. If you play a new game and you say it sucks, everybody yells at you, but if you let past the time, it's the time the one who gives reason to people.
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I always think it's fascinating to see how the discourse around games evolves. It's always most telling when people stop talking about a game at all. Remember Starfield? No one even talks about Starfield anymore, not even about how bad it may or may not have been. Just kinda flopped a bit and passed from memory.
I had to search "Bethesda space game" just now to even remember its generic name ...
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I remember at the time it was getting all these awards. When I still had game pass I booted it up to see what it was all about. Dear god was it dull. All I remember is some dude comes out and is like “you had a space vision! Take my ship!” And I thought that was the most absurd way to start a game.
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Funny thing is, starfield would probably still be relevant if it didnt have paid mods
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I was just talking to someone at a party about what games we'd been playing, and we also had to fully stop and think a while to remember the actual name of the Bethesda Space Game™.
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In a lot of cases, the people who enjoyed it will have already said what they wanted to say about it, and then the detractors can just yell out the loudest. There's a perception that BioShock Infinite was only praised because of release hype, and a lot of people look back at it unkindly for one reason or another, but I've seen a number of people experience it for the first time in just the past couple of years, unaware of any reputation it might have, and they loved it like we all did at launch.
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This happened to me with Resident Evil 3 Remake, I didn't knew that had so many haters behind but I really enjoyed the game. One thing to hate, they say, is the short duration of the game. I mean, you could beat the original game in 2 hours, if you didn't knew nothing about the game, could take you like 7 or 8 hours
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I picked up Vampire Survivors, played one round, and was like yeah I think I’m done here.
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I picked it up and thought "this is so stupid," right before spending many hours playing it.
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Try out Magic Survival, the (way better) game VS was copied of
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I don't know how I managed to have gone through the game as long as I have. I got it for free when it was a giveaway on Epic. I feel that's exactly the right price because really, it's just an almost do-nothing but move slightly and just pick options kind of game. Got boring fast.
It started being really ridiculous when I got one character, a skeleton that threw bones, up to the point where all I see were just numbers, gems and other flying things from the abilities I picked. It just got comically stupid but still boring at the same time.
This game's entire premise, was that it's supposed to give you feel-good moments without having spending money like you normally would on mobile games. It behaves like a mobile game without MTX. But I think its problem is that it retains the other problems that mobile gaming has than just MTX, such as time-wasting, cheating you of your dopamine and all that.
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Cyberpunk 2077.
It's okay, but it's a far cry from giving me the feelings of a cyberpunk world in my opinion and I'm a massive fan of blade runner and the like.
Why am i spending so much time wandering at the street level where everywhere just looks and feels the same. Travelling is so boring.
And the voice acting of V (I played female) is so overreacted, it's one of the cringiest performances in gaming, considering it's meant to be all serious and whatnot.
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Agreed. I have bounced off this game a few times for similar reasons. For a game that is about a cyberpunk future, it felt so much like a gta clone. Having played the ttrpgs, I think I just have a different version of the world in my head, and the games version just feels off.
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Yeah seriously, V gets so worked up over fucking everything and I just couldn't give a fuck. Calm the fuck down and take your Xanax, V. She's stressing me out over nothing.
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Why am i spending so much time wandering at the street level where everywhere just looks and feels the same.
What game are you fucking playing?
“Looks and feels he same”!?
What are you even going on about? Every neighborhood, every nook and cranny, looks and feels different and has it's own personality and story to tell!Night City is the real protagonist of the game! I could spend hours upon hours just walking those streets, experiencing the city (and have), and I'm far from the only one...
And the voice acting of V (I played female) is so overreacted, it's one of the cringiest performances in gaming
I'm sorry, what? Cherami Leigh got a well deserved BAFTA nomination for that performance!
(Lost to Laura Bailey for her work as Abby on The Last of Us Part II.)What, were you playing with your eyes closed while listening to something else..?
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To me every nook and cranny just looks bland with nothing to do there. Everywhere just had the same sidewalks and railings. There's no way i could ever navigate that game without waypoints.
And with the acting the emphasis she puts on certain words in a sentence just don't match the situation and the others she's talking to, and it feels like she swaps between extreme emotions on the same dialogue and it's like tonal whiplash to me. There was no nuance to lay in between, and nothing to unpack for the listener. You know when she's angry because she has her 110% angry voice on and so on.
Unless the situation is heightened and dire, it just never fit in my opinion. Her performance fits a stage play more than what's meant to be an immersive video game in my opinion.
Jackie's and Keanu's voice acting though was stellar.
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My problem with Cyberpunk is it feels like all style and no substance. Night City is probably the best looking city I've ever seen in a game. The world designers did a phenomenal job with the visuals and atmosphere.
But it just doesn't feel like there's enough to do in the city or ways to interact with it or the NPCs. There should be more buildings you can enter and more activities to do. For me that's what sets GTA and Red Dead apart from Cyberpunk. They have much more to do when you're not on missions.
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After Jesse died my motivation to continue dropped off a cliff. All the other characters are so boring and uninteresting. I cringe everytime johnny silver hand shows up. Also the driving and gunplay feels really really bad. Its got skyrim-like clunkiness without the flexibility and interesting world to make it worth while.
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Yeah ok im glad to hear someone say that about cyberpunk 2077. Its been only just ok, but I want to like it more, but I don't so far lol
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I love everything about ‘Disco Elysium’ in isolation. Art style? Gorgeous. Grimy noiry mood, right up my alley. I love isometric RPGs, though it's been a while since I played any. Writing is great, from what I've heard. Novel mechanics, probably beautiful.
Only, I get into a couple dialogs and realize I need a second computer on the desk, to type up notes. Ain't no way I'm remembering any of that, especially since I tend to take long breaks in a playthrough. And I just decided in recent years that I need to pay closer attention to stories in games, which I neglected to do back in my youth.
I've put twenty notes into the phone (with swipe-typing, thankfully), and that ended my initial experience.
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You're playing a middle aged detective (though he looks older, or at least more worn down) who just woke up from an alcoholic coma after taking all the drugs, unable to remember anything about himself or the world he lives in, except for the fact that there might have been a woman, which was somehow both the best and the worst, and possibly some trivia about disco.
I don't think you're supposed to be able to remember or understand everything the game throws at you, at least on a first playthrough. That's what Kim is for.
Just go with the flow, and remember that in this game failure often leads to more enjoyable outcomes than success.
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But he's a professional detective, presumably with the skill to gather information and put it together. Meanwhile I'm a professional scatterbrain who writes down notes for programming projects that take more than a day. It would be unrealistic for me to roleplay as him, especially if I step away from the game for a couple weeks and forget most of the details. If I can code while hungover, he probably can do detective stuff while hungover.
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What are you making notes of? I never had this urge.
Also, in case you weren't aware, Steam has notes built in and it saves them for each individual game
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Dark Souls.
I played Demons Souls and it was awesome, but Dark Souls is so confuse, I couldn't understand shit about the story, and it's not that hard, harder than Demons Souls but no that hard.
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Dark Souls is a 14 year old game
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you're probably right
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Friend recommended one of the hitman games. But the steam port is so incredibly janky in regards to controller layout. And it was fucking made for consoles is what's bonkers!!!
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Huh what?
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There's a game series called "hitman". A friend recommended one of the games. I installed it and had difficulty playing it because it was difficult to control the character. The game was made in an era when it needed to be released on consoles to be financially viable. If it is released on consoles, it follows that it needs to be made for people controlling the character with a "controller". The steam deck is kinda set up as a "controller".
Despite these two seemingly perfect intersections, the game does not play well on the steam deck.
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Slay the Spire for me, I thought it'd be a slam dunk because I love Balatro, but it just didn't land for me at all.
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Kinda the same, but I did like slay the spire. But balatro is leaps and bounds superior.
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Huh opposite for me. I have played Slay the Spire for like 2000 hours. I have beaten it through ascension 20 on all 4 characters like 20ish times at this point. I still pick it up and play it when I'm bored and it still is fun somehow.
I could not get into Balatro like that. I think I have roughly 50 hours in it and like 3/4 of the way through it with all the decks and challenges and simply cannot bring myself to complete it. The last 10 or so hours just felt like a slog. Still a good game but the sheen wore off for me well before I could 100% it much less start replaying.
To each their own I guess! Funny how similar the games are and how there's just some people that love one but can't get into the other.
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arc raiders
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Do you have a general reason? Giving the name of the game doesn't do much when i don't know why you didn't like it.
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The Elden Ring.
The open world just did not do it to me. I enjoy much more tighter game world like in the previous souls games.
Most of the side bosses were unintresting and if you found them too late you were completely overpowered.
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I still enjoyed Elden Ring, but I agree completely. I prefer the metroidvania world design of earlier From Software games. The sense of progression is one of the best parts of those games, and Elden Ring’s open world robs the it of a lot of the magic of earlier titles, where discoveries were around every corner and in every nook and cranny. I never felt the same joy of exploration and hard won progress as I did in Dark Souls, Bloodborne, and Sekiro.
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statisfactory 1.0: the game is pure eye candy there's no endgame. factorio is leaps and bounds better
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Yeah I'm a huge factorio player and I so badly wanted to like satisfactory but i can only describe the gameplay as cock and ball torture. For the first 6 hours you are getting kicked in the balls repeatedly by pointless tasks that drag you out of the automation loop. The game is not playable until you unlock the hydro power.
With friends it helped mask the pain.
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Persona. I didnt play it to the end. Not even sure I past the tutorial. So many text boxes. So much dialogue.
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Doom dark ages. Just upgraded my computer, and I thought 'hey, I really liked 2016 and eternal, this'll be great, and it's got great reviews'. Nah, the whole game just felt...okay. I might try it again at some point and mess with the difficulty settings, but I felt like I was forcing myself to play it the whole way through.
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I'm grinding through this one now. The graphics are great, and the game does feel like a modern doom, but the fun does seem to be lacking.
I'll finish it, but don't think I'd replay it.
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I personally didn’t love the atmosphere of this game. Didn’t feel very doom like. The gameplay mechanics are also different, but I got used to them. The game is turning more and more into a rhythm game like DDR or Guitar hero where you need to do the right attack at the right time depending on what enemy you’re dealing with.
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Being on the patient side of things, two games I've played in recent years and didn't enjoy were:
God of War (2018) - it just felt like AAA slop to me. Meaningles upgrades, tons of obvious puzzles at any corner - never throwing in even a single brain teaser, boring combat - the best option was almost always to throw the axe, that thing were you start walking at a snails pace to mask loading and/or play a cutscene and on top of that and of course your god powers being mostly cutscene exclusive. Just your bog standard AAA game with no 'friction' - boring.
Factorio - it just feels like work to me. On top of that, going in blind, I just didn't enjoy building something up just to tear it down again because I've unlocked something new changing the requirements. Once again, feels like a job in IT. On top of that, resource patches being limited just gave me the weirdest kind of anxiety despite never actually seeing one run out.
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Factorio's the awakening for a lot of people on certain ends on the spectrum. My AuDHD makes it crack for me. I will say though, while the tutorial teaches you some essentials, it just throws you into the deep end once you start a real game.
I only discovered all the tips and quality of life from videos online, and there are some troubles in the game you can solve on your own but good fucking luck (belt balancing).
Might not be your kinda game, but if you ever feel like giving it another chance, check out some vids online for beginner tips (: It's a game about stimulating the Eureka! part of our ooga booga caveman brains and it feels amazing.
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I finally have a computer that can run Cyberpunk 2077, but it is such a dull game.
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LOL I could have told you that before you spent the money.
Thankfully there's a lot of good games that really shine on high-end hardware. Like that Indiana Jones game and the Spider-Man games. Also you never have to worry about games being an unoptimized mess, when you can just brute force them with pure processing power.
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Planet crafter - Holy shit is that game janky, ugly, badly designed etc.
Conan Exiles - I did enjoy it for a while, but it quickly becamse such a chore since so little is explained so you spend so much time having to look things up, and even then it's often not obvious what to do. I payed solo, and there is a point where doing that just feels impossible, I ended up wanting to cheat to do some things and that's a point I never cross so I just stopped playing.
I really want to play some game like those; survival with base building, exploration etc, But I think I've exhausted the list of ones that are good enough for me. I've played Minecraft, Terraria, Star Bound, Enshrouded, Subnautica, Grounded, Valheim, Satisfactory, Factorio, The Forest and more that I'm not remembering right now. There are some that are in early access that I'm interested in but I've stopped playing EA games, I now always wait till full release.
If anyone has any suggestions I'd be very happy, I'm craving something to dive deep into. I'm only interested in Single player games through, at least ones that can be played as such.
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They are all centered around being the person executing the task. Have you tried Dwarf Fortress or alike games?
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similar suggestion to BlackAngels: RimWorld?
sounds like you'd enjoy top-down gameplay more than 1st person, so might be something to try!
pro tip: try the base game first. the DLC are all good, but none are required!
edit: RimWorlds' mod scene is also just incredible (some would probably call it non-credible too XD); there's Project RimFactory if you want a more factorio-like playthrough! (although, fair warning, RimFactory is pretty damn OP, up to you how much you abuse it...)
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Soulmask. Its been phenomenal even in EA, and its about to fully release before the end of the year. Once Human is also fantastic and its free.
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Farthest Frontier.
I love city building games. They're my genre of choice. This one is hyped up to 11 as this great agent based logistics chain focused city sim. It's not. Like at all. The numbers are obfuscated to hell and back. It's got the slowest tier one to tier 2 transition I've ever played in a game like this. Very little does what it's reported to do. They added a useless tech tree to lock stuff up to get a sense of progression, when in reality it just adds a second layer of requirements and time to progress to the next stage of your city. They have a really frustrating combat system which is cool in thought, but poorly executed. The economy is fucked and barely makes any sense.
The most frustrating thing that's the biggest deal breaker is that pops don't move into the city upon building housing. You need extra people to fulfill basic laborer roles. I can fill up every job I've plopped and have 20 extra workers doing basic labor or nothing. Or I can have two extra workers and build more houses to increase the pop count. Problem is nobody moves in. One of the requirements to get to tier 3 is 200 pop. I can't break the 64 barrier let alone 100 because for some awful reason the dev decided to use a desirability score and not move pops in upon building a house. I have a population cap of 140 people and there's vacant houses everywhere. Yet shit don't change. I don't think peasants in the fucking 1400s gave a shit about market prices and luxury amenities when fucking bears and wolves attack every 5 minutes. Just move people in the houses when I build them.
The game is a looker. I'll give it that. Everything else is frustratingly bad.
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Space marine 2. You shoot things with guns that don't feel powerful and you die if you don't have perfect reaction timing to do executes. I've never played a game where the world says "oh you're amazing and powerful!" but then makes you feel incredibly weak. Also, the timing for executes is not fun. It would be nice if they were bonuses but they are necessary to survive because they replenish your health. The gun gameplay is just shooting. No strategy. Boring. I'm going back to hell drivers 2.
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I personally loved it the part where i was weak. Its lore accurate and it was like travelling back in time to the olden days.
It was great nostalgia rush to play a game where you could really die and it was not unusual to need and try same fight multiple times.
Now days i feel like most games are allmost impossible to loose. I dont want it from all the games, but its nice to have games like that available.
Helldivers 2 is hard game, but dying a lot is something the game mechanics are build around and you dont loose instantly and when you loose you just fire up a new game, it does not give me the same 2000's vibe i got from the space marine 2.
Also the reaction times are not that tight. Even my dad reflexes can manage those.
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You and my buddies say that the reaction times aren't that tight. I must be doing something wrong then because they're no different than any other reaction game for me: I miss a majority of the.
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I played this with two friends. The progression system is just awful. So we got through the full campaign once and it was fine honestly. Then we were kind of hyped to try going through it again, it was all right definitely harder. And then the third time around we just gave up cuz it was clear that they're just wasn't that much game to play, and the enemy is just become bullet sponges and you either grind endlessly to try to level up and gain unknown amounts of power if its power at all.
Intermultiplayer sessions we did have a few epic moments won't lie. But the cost just wasn't worth it. And those thin offset the issues that we had.
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The entire Mass Effect series. Many of the missions were dredging through mostly empty buildings that had copy-pasted boxes and random shit in them. Just generic buildings with generic crap stuffed into them. The world felt purposeless, sterile, and generic to me.
Also, the story just didn’t really grab me that much as I cringe at the romance parts of any story. And lastly, the gameplay was just clunky and awkward to me.
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Life
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Yeah, mid characters except few...
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For me, it's borderlands 2
I thought the gameplay was pretty good, in a "turn your brain off and shoot guys with gradually increasing numbers" kind if way, and I absolutely adored whenever Handsome Jack showed up, but that's pretty much it
I've heard from more than a few sources that the shooting on that game's peak, but it's just kind of generic. Outside of Jack, I thought the writing was honestly pretty lacklustre as well, even getting annoying in more than one instance (CATCH A RIIIIIDE FUCK OFF DIPSHIT). The cell-shaded artsyle is quite pretty, I will give it that
At its core, I think it's just... fine.
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I love that game, spent hundreds of hours in it a while back, and don't remember fuck all about the story.
it's a shoot 'em up loot game, and it does a great job of it IMO
absolutely a brainded activity though. it and Bioshock are two different frames of mind when you're playing them
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Did you play it solo or with people? I found the game to be fairly dull solo. It was better with people but the loot system still allowed a lot to be desired especially if you played with greedy people.
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Ghost of Yotei
It's good but way too long and gets really repetitive.
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Just finished it with all achievements (except final Takezo fight, yet) in about 50 hours. It was a little repetitive yes, but it didn’t bother me much. The setting, presentation and gameplay checks all the boxes for me so I kept going.
But I would’ve also been happy if it was shorter. That’s my general opinion on games these days.
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I turned the difficulty way down in the end just to finally get it done.
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Luigi's Mansion 3. At least if you consider 6 years ago recent. It got some really good reviews at the time, and it honestly makes me wonder if we were playing the same game. I loved the first one, by the way - I got an A rank while also getting golden frames on all the portraits (on the PAL version where you need more money).
I only persisted with the game because it was a birthday gift (and due to the sunk cost fallacy, I suppose), but I think it might be the game I've completed that I enjoyed the least. It looks nice, and some of the boss ghost encounters were charming, but the gameplay itself was fairly monotonous since they simplified the ghost catching mechanics from LM1 (I didn't really play LM2, since it was on 3DS). Gooigi would have been a decent addition, but his puzzles generally just didn't feel very fleshed out. It felt like they were either "I need two vacuums" or "I can't fit through this grate".
Also, I think Nintendo took the criticism that the first game was too short well and truly to heart, because LM3 might be the most filler-stuffed game I've ever played. Half the time when you get an elevator button, you get screwed over in some way and have to find it again. And don't get me started on fucking Poulterkitty, when that little bastard showed up for the second time I legitimately thought about quitting the game there and then. The final boss was awful, too, which left an even more bitter taste in my mouth.
Luigi's Mansion 3 might be the only game I've ever played where I thought "Thank god I don't have to play that anymore" once I finished it.
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Expedition 33 has good gameplay. However, the whole game feels like generic Unreal Engine 5 assets taken from a fromsoftware fan's portfolio were mashed together.
Also it looks like crap (from a technical standpoint) on steam deck and I can't change the settings how I like.
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Oh I think the reverse - it's a pretty game with a nice story but the gameplay itself made me want to quit the moment I won the main story.
For those unaware you can basically win by being really really good at Simon says (except you can't beat Simon that way)
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This is how I felt about it. Cranked the graphics up, thought it was beautifully made, yet overall the gameplay and execution felt generic. The combat becomes predictable and nothing special.
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Not sure how recent we’re talking but within the last year or so my 2 biggest disappointments have been once human and nightingale. I can usually work around jank and weird creative decisions, but unfortunately neither of these two were worth any of the time I’ve spent playing em since they felt like they didn’t seem to want you to progress.
Played once human for about 3 days, nightingale for around 3 hours and then refunded.
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The new Silent Hill 2.
The use of DLSS makes it look like a fugly, smudged mess unless you're totally motionless. The combat is inconsistent; hit a monster, it gets stunned but then jankily cancels the stun animation to grab you or attack through your attack so it hits you but you don't hit it.
Not sure what is better than the original other than the graphics when standing still. Even the voice acting is the same not good delivery as the OG, despite having been re-done.
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Nine Sols. Played it right after finishing Silksong to keep the metroidvania kick going.
The parrying was some of the worst feeling parrying I've ever felt in any game, the world felt tiny and extremely linear, the narrative was predictable and felt extremely flat, and the final boss is the only time I've ever switched to a story mode difficulty in any game just to get it over with, I love difficult games but that difficulty spike is absurd and the game never remotely prepares you for that.
They advertise this game as a Sekiro-like metroidvania, while it feels like they completely miss what made Sekiro work or what a metroidvania is.
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Bg3. I think the flaws are glaringly obvious and everyone has heard them already (inventory, everything after act 1, the main characters being generally gross) it's just whether they're a deal breaker for you personally. For me they are, especially inventory.
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Same. I tried to just 'go with it' and ignore the flaws so that I could play multi-player with my SO. Act 2 was a slog. Act 3 is where we gave up completely. The only good part is that the whiny companions started dying on their own.
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My favourite part of returning to camp was lying to gale that I'd found no magical items while having 4 characters invs basically overflowing with items I didnt want.
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The characters being gross? Im not sure ive heard that complainant, could you elaborate please
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I had the same feeling, didnt really like the characters they were weird but after modding some custom ones in I enjoyed it a lot more. I did keep astrlas ans shadow heart then put my own two characters to fill the party.
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Prey. It's inferior to the older Dishonored games in pretty much every aspect.
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Wild, I had the opposite experience, I loved Prey (I also love the Dishonored games). What stuff did you end up not liking about Prey?
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Compared to Dishonored, Prey lacks all the movement. But I wouldn't have compared it to Dishonored anyway; It's more like System Shock 2 and is pretty good compared to that.
Unless they're talking about the older Prey... 🤔
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For me the difference is simply being a scardey baby who cant handle horror
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Elden ring. Repetitive, ugly, boring. I don’t think I made it past the wasteland you start in but I never saw anything worth seeing and the dying over and over gameplay is frustrating for me, not fun. I played for a couple of hours and just gave up on it, i saw no progress or any story, just repetitive killing
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Expedition 33, but I'm sure other people think that about Silksong or Hundred Line.
I love the pictos system, it's the best thing about it and I hope other JRPGs take it, almost every pickup you find is good. Resuable consumables are cool, and the first two hours or so is cinema (even on Steam Deck with crappy settings). The rest is just good to flawed by the middle of Act 2, especially parrying (I'm decent at it, but I'd rather either play an action game where it's deeper, or a JRPG where it doesn't intrude on strategy)
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Ha, indeed I never even got into hollow knight and didn't even find it appealing. Big metroidvania player otherwise. Love dead cells.
Anyhow, I really like(d) expedition 33, played through on easy. Due to the qte stuff which I wish could be turned off entirely. It's also a question of accessibility imo.
Technically it's not really great and should perform way better on ps5 or pc.
But whatever, it was generally a good game.
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Hollow Knight mostly had pretty barebones movement for a metroidvania. Great for combat, not fun for going from point A to B, and HK has seemingly more backtracking that other metroidvanias. Silksong actually has a sprint button that makes it all better.
Expedition 33 is still good, but a lot of people go as far as saying it's the best JRPG last decade, which feels like a copout when half of it is not being a JRPG. It feels like the Persona 5 hype all over again (which was a full on JRPG, mind you, but it also had problems and I felt was just good)
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Skyrim, it's so damn mundane.
That's because you're playing it wrong. You see, at it's core Skyrim is actually a puzzle game you play on the Nexus Mods website. You spend 30+ hours carefully researching, building, and tweaking the perfect pack of mods, only to immediately run out of interest in playing Skyrim once you're finally done. The actual Skyrim installation only exists to check if you solved the puzzle correctly and it runs.
Damn. I feel so seen suddenly.
Actually. I tried Skyrim so many times and never got into it, then I decided to give it the best shot and play with a cavalcade of QoL mods. I went from a hater to a true Skyrim enjoyer. At this point, with how pessimistic I was about the game, I think with the right setup ANYONE can enjoy it.
The end-game lasts about 30 seconds after boot.
"Oooh, pretty sky. Ooh, wavy plants. Ooh, god rays. Alt+F4."
Real. Without my 800 mods I would‘ve never bothered finishing it. Playing/modding was probably 50/50 in terms of time spent.
I'm in this comment and I hate it
I have the opposite opinion. I avoided it for years because of the hype (and not having proper hardware to run it).
Now I have almost 900 hours in it, and sometimes I jump in just to walk around and revisit some places.
Skyrim came out 14 years ago.
Thanks for the tip
Just get openmw and play a real elder scrolls game before Bethesda got got
Or spin up TES3MP with some friends and experience it together!