Privacy @lemmy.ml 0therbit5 @lemmy.ml 2y ago

Thoughts on Lokinet?

I was looking for something different from Tor and not like I2P. Someone give a look on Lokinet? What's your thoughts?

Edit : I know that is based on oninon nodes I mean about the privacy feature and what have to offer more

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I am concerned that the payment for starting a node would create an effect opposite of what's advertised. Looked it up and the cost of setting up a node is more than all my savings. That absolutely deters an average Joe who just wants to contribute to the network. Who would want and be able to set up a node then? Either crypto enthusiasts or someone who has big funds already. Like big corporations and government agencies. Also if the operators of the nodes receive money, that means someone would have to lose money, right? Sounds a little bit like a pyramid. Maybe I am wrong, but the logic seems weird.
- I'm not sure it's a pyramid structure. To me what you have described is rather a service provider structure. In a pyramid those who pay don't get anything in return, no?
  
  I mean, I am confused where they would take the money if we assume everyone who paid to set up a node gets 100% of their money back.
- Wait wait what?
Just stick to signal, briar and matrix for now, this network still needs to stand the test of time
- Those are messaging apps, totally different things. What OP tells about is overlay networks over the internet that hide your traffic.
  
  Briar is a network it uses tor as well
- Can also recommend signal and matrix
  
  Briar is probably the best of the 3 except that it uses too much battery
Do you mean Oxen? Not all that many people use it apparently. I use Session messenger but it's not super reliable... Although no worse than Matrix I gusss.

I do like the decentralised onion style of networking with no reallife identifier, for obvious reasons. There's some crypto mining involved (like legit opt-in for which you need to set up a node, not something secret on the background) which may sound dumb, but imo it gives people the incentive to run nodes and widen the network. Unlike Tor where the incentives are... None, unless you have a specific reason to run a node.
- I use it, and never really had issues with it. It was pretty reliable.
  
  Same, Session is great because it focus on privacy. You can contact people only by knowing their public ID but you don't know their private ID which is used by the user to decrypt the messages. As there is no central server, nothing is kept outside of your local Session instance. Pretty decent to me.
It seems promising but its not the only player in the game. Tor is the oldest and most reliable but there is also i2p and the new freenet

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