Promised myself I will support them after they go stable. They kept their promise and so did I
One of the best pieces of self-hosted software ever to exist.
Edit: This is Immich! for the folks who don't know.
Seriously everyone pushes Immich so hard I'm a little suspicious of it now :D
Edit: all right, all right, I installed it. It has a thing about not uploading all the pictures I give it, some error out. I have a feeling it is due to the library being on a NAS share.
The fediverse is small and the Immich dev is one of our own, not surprising that it's super popular
It's crazy good for something FREE. Like infinitely better than any major crop google apple etc because you KEEP your photos. Anything you upload to the cloud is being mined by them.
The only thing I tell people is that you need a cloud backup.
I have an automated nightly worker that zips all my photos encrypts them with a 32 character password and then uploads it to a bulk storage facility.
I do something similar using restic to encrypt, deduplicate, and backup my photos to backblaze every now and then. Out of curiosity, any particular reason you choose zip over something like restic?
and then uploads it to a bulk storage facility.
Any suggestions and estimate pricing?
Yeah. I just put the media location on my nas, and that is being mirrored to hetzner.
It's just that good
Yeah :) Maybe give lychee a try :) it's minimalist and does one thing, but it does it well !!!
Shhhh! No one can no we are all being played by the immich overlords.
I found it a couple of months ago without hearing about it before. I was in an ideal place for a Google Photos replacement.
There's a couple of rough edges but it is, indeed, best-of-class.
As a newbie in selfhosting, Immich is what I use almost every day. And it is so good. A literal Google Photos but it's my own. Snappy web app and android app. Has epic face recognition, contextual search and now even text recognition. All that on an efficient and not so powerful N100 cpu. I can totally see why community loves it.
I'll include mine to show that it's not unusual to support them! it's my favorite and most used self hosted project
What is it and what does it do?
Immich: Image Backup* solution — like Google Photos or Ente Photos but self-hosted.
*Backup in the sense of uploading your photos to a server you own. You should backup the database as well as your library with 3-2-1 method.
I second this?
From the logo, it looks like immich
Immich! Photo management: https://immich.app/
Immich
Google photo self hosted alternative
So wait, we hate FUTO but love Immich?
I don’t hate FUTO, but I distrust them.
On one hand, their operation is creepy and suspicious.
The extent of the FUTO “grant program”, at least in the case of musl libc, involved ignoring musl’s established process for institutional sponsors, quietly sending a modest one-time donation to one maintainer, and then plastering the logo of a well-respected open source project on a list of “grant recipients” on their home page. Rich eventually posted on Mastodon to clarify that the use of the musl name and logo here was unauthorized.
On the other, I like the idea of licenses that allow unrestricted private use and modification but forbid commercial exploitation. Those two situations are not equivalent. I realize this is an unpopular opinion in many FOSS circles, but we are already being exploited to death by the rich and powerful and they must not be entitled to the value of our collective free and voluntary labor. If we ever realize a society in which wealth and power is effectively capped for such entities, then I would change my tune. Until then, fuck them. Our collective software is for the collective, not for wealth hoarders and despots.
Immich is actually open source.
May I ask why do we hate FUTO?
they're wearing the clothes of "open source" but they run like a proverbial nazi bar: https://drewdevault.com/2025/10/22/2025-10-22-Whats-up-with-FUTO.html
They've been featuring projects on their page that they display their donations on, projects that did not know or outright refused, without their consent or understanding.
May I ask what the fuck FUTO is?
I find it wild in this day and age how questions like ("why do WE hate" such and such) are being asked in the first place, then answered through one person's opinion piece mindlessly linked from all angles. Please, for gawd sake, stop listening to random fedditors/redditors about what opinions you should adopt!
IMHO (<- there's a novel approach), the criticisms of FUTO are just as biased and political as FUTO themselves, and everyone should be sceptical of bias from all sides. Apparently, focusing on 'privacy, decentralization, and right to repair' - is being too political, and they're not allowed to have a philosophical take on what they imagine successful open source to be. (Incidentally, I'm not necessarily on FUTOs side, just pissed off at the nature of social media to obviate the need of critical thinking and make everything black or white.)
I mean sure but... did you read the piece linked? It backs up it's claims. Not gonna sit here and act like I verified every single thing linked in the piece but I checked a good handful and it seems pretty straightforward. FUTO is pretty sketchy at the very least, and there's good reason to consider them a fascist org
the criticisms of FUTO are just as biased and political as FUTO themselves,
oh so you're STUPID stupid
The duality of man.
Hmm. While I applaud Immich for existing at all, it kind of feels developed with not me as a user in mind. I have Terabytes of pictures I have taken over the couple of decades of my adult life. They are all neatly organized in folders on my NAS. There is no easy way to just tell Immich "oy, that folder structure? Turn it into albums" I am never going to manually put my 400k+ images into albums. And the folder view in the Android app is behind too many clicks to make it any fun using it.
I guess I have to wrangle with the CLI or something to turn my folders into albums.
But... why??? People use existing file structures. Make it easy for those to integrate into your app.
Nothing of the sort on the roadmap either. Unless integrating folder structures into Immich albums gets more user friendly, I am reluctant to support the devs.
I'll probably do it anyway because as I said, I'm glad the project exists.
Thanks.
Sounds exactly like what I need. I'll give it a try. Thanks a lot!
Currently working with immich go for migrating my images from a folder based structure. It works like a breeze.
Yeah, ideally something like Immich is just some metadata pointing at existing files. An album should be some combination of synced directories (i.e. new files added outside Immich should be detected and added, if selected) and individual files.
That doesn't sound that complex. Maybe I'll look into Immich and see about adding that. I don't currently use it, but I don't have an image solution, so I'll give it a shot.
using it for some months now and it's pretty much perfect already. never looked back to Google photos.
I dont get the "server" vs "individual" support levels? Im an individual and I have a server...but presumably everyone buying immich has a server? Otherwise it's pointless? Or is it expected that I buy a server package, plus an individual package for each and every user?
I know it's OSS and so any and all donations are voluntary - just the naming here confuses me.
It is just Donation Tiers I think. Maybe the per user thing only hides the "Buy Immich" button for only that specific user.
Server is meant for all users of a single server.
So, you could buy 1-3 individual licenses or the server license for 4+ users.
Does it support multi-tenancy?
For instance, being a backup and media manager solution for multiple people in my family hosted on one server.
The same with a few friends that want to get out from under Google's thumb.
Yes
It does, but it doesn't handle encryption at rest. Everyone needs to be aware that the immich admin can see their photos on the disk.
I really want to use (and support) this, but my case would be the server running on a windows pc with great hardware for all the ML/AI stuff and SSD database storage, but all my media on a NAS. (I’m a flight sim addict, Linux isn’t an option or I’d do it in a heartbeat) Last time I tried, I got the server running in docker pretty easily, but could not for the life of me get my media connected. Any chance that process has improved?
FWIW you're probably looking for https://docs.immich.app/guides/remote-machine-learning namely removing the demanding tasks from the NAS.
I'm running it on in docker and I've connected it to my NAS mounted as a network drive. I set it up a few months ago, do it's better since then.
Don't even worry about the hardware, I've got it set up on a raspberry Pi 5. It'll take a while to do all the classification on your existing library, but new photos get classified fast enough. You're unlikely to need to do a smart search immediately after you've taken the pic.
For clarity, I'm not on Windows (obv, raspberry Pi), and I'm not using docker directly; I'm running HAOS on my pi, and I'm using the immich add-on. I know it uses docker, but I can't tell you the exact command to run.
That’s amazing. I have a Pi 4 currently running home assistant and pihole. Sounds like my pi family might be growing soon. Had no idea the 5 could run those features. Appreciate you
Same, just bought a server license yesterday!
I am a supporter and ordered the retro demo disk. Itll be here soon :)
I did the same after they revamped the backup functionality in the app, and it now finally seems to be trustworthy enough as my main method to get my pictures from my phone into the cloud. Could finally cancel my Google subscription as well.
Same bro, just became a supporter myself. Worth every dollar!
I'm still disappointed that tags are absent from the mobile app.
As someone who only used the stock synology app and has always wanted to try something else, what features and things does this do better? I am close to trying it out just to see. Im sure it will solve my 1 big issue where I can't control the location of photos that default to my application storage, which is pretty small, instead of my actual storage array.
Does everything Google photos does. Their app looks/feels exactly Google's app, including sharing links. Assuming you're running it on reasonably powerful hardware, it does all the same face recognition and ML based search that Google photos does.
You don't even need powerfull hardware. It works perfectly on a raspberry pi 4
You don't even need reasonably powerful hardware, I do it on my raspberry Pi 5. It just takes a little longer, which isn't usually a problem except for the first time you import your library.
Does it have an Android app that will automatically back up photos and videos that I take? Is there a way to do it without exposing a bunch of stuff from my home network?
One thing I don't get, if someone could explain it to me, is what's the point of immich over e.g. Nextcloud? Immich is just for photo and video, right? Why not just have a cloud file drive instead? To me, I feel like it's a waste to have both, since I use Nextcloud to both sync my PC and as a secondary backup, in which case I'd have two copies of my photos on my home server if I wanted to use Immich as well. Am I missing something or is it for people with different workflows?
Because it has a lot of photo specific features:
These are just the ones on top of my head, but you'll probably get the idea. If you just want to back up you photos then nextcloud is more than enough, but you'd probably enjoy the immich features once you used them.
Regarding the two copies: you can use immich on an external library, so you don't have to have to copies.
It's like asking why should I use paperless when I can just keep my documents as PDFs in my nextcloud.
The AI search is just crazy, especially when you adjust the model quality.
The issue for me is that Nextcloud has these features as well with App add-ons. I have yet to try Immich because what's more important for me is the actual backup\upload of my photos than actually browsing them. Maybe someday, but my self hosting initiatives typically involve me chasing a shiny red ball of a deployment, and Immich just isn't shiny enough for me yet.
Nextcloud is like Google drive, immich is like Google photos.
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You'd typically prefer to look at your photo albums in Google photos instead of Google drive.
If it weren't Docker-dependant, I'd imagine this would be a good FreedomBox app.
Sounds more like a Freedombox problem for not supporting one of the best ways to run sevrer software ¯(ツ)/¯
Yup, purchased myself 2 days ago. Absolutely deserve all of the support!
Is it better than NC?
If you use Nextcloud, install the App Memories and you will have the same functions as Immich plus all the upload functions of Nextcloud.
But if you are not interested in all the Nextcloud functionalities (including contact and calendar sync, musicserver, filesharing, etc) and just want picture management, Immich is the better choice.
That's exactly what I have, and that's exactly what I wanted ... DARN ... oh well. I guess it's nice to have the document sync as well
Never used NC but this just works.
I've tried Immich, but found my plain SMB shares already did 80% of what immich could do I wanted. The remaining 20% I could do easily with my favorite photo/video viewers (looping, filtering, tagging, location data).
I also hate how it's only a web portal for desktop. There's no native desktop app, and no seamless integration with file browsers, video players, etc.
Maybe I look at it again in a few years
You can setup external libraries with it. So you, say, upload your photos and videos to your SMB Share, point that SMB Share as external Library in Immich and you will get the benefits of Immich while you can browse your Share normally as you would. I mean yes this is a workaround but it works.
It's a photo album? I kept hearing about it. I've been using a combo of just plain files, and sometimes nextcloud. Immich sounds like something to look into.
The ML is really good. Google's Face recognition is over-confident sometimes and is difficult to remove the tagged faces and add correct ones. Immich's is very accurate and if it misses something I can just add them — 1 step instead of 2 with Google's.
Also, if it turns out that immich misses too many faces, or has too many false positives, or creates too many different persons for one face, or groups different persons together, you can tune that. You can set the threshold values for all these things, or just use a different ML model and reanalyse your whole library. Even on an older CPU without any special ML features, it takes less than a night to reanalyse a hundred thousand pictures or so.
Certainly, especially because of the search features, social features and the ability to organise your photos, and the nice looking user interface.
im like maybe one of few people who barely take photos. its great because i dont need to worry about the costs of cloud storage
I mostly set it up for a few major albums like my wedding album. Other than that it's like 90% dog pictures lmao
Immich sounds great.
Does it have E2EE? I rent a VPS and would prefer personal files that I have on it to be protected.
It is fundamentally built around the files being decrypted in RAM, for all the search features. You can use an encrypted partition for storing the photos and DB, to avoid having plaintext files on disk.
https://ente.io/ has e2ee. Tehg recently opened up their software so self hosting.
I font have enough exp with both Immich and Ente to make a statement as to whether they have all of the same features or not.
Buying my copy soon!
Thanks for the reminder, done as well :)
How does it compare to Photoprism? Been on that solution for a while and I really like it, but have seen lots of people suggest Immich as well.
I used Photoprism years ago, so my knowledge is probably pretty outdated.
My experience of Photoprism was that mobile was not tightly integrated. At the time I used Syncthing to sync photos --- it worked ok for me, but I wasn't going to set it up on my partner's phone, for example.
Immich Just Works on both mobile and desktop. Multi user is great, sharing is great, and the local ML and face detection work remarkably well.
Whatever works for you is the best of course! Immich fits the bill for me, and it was very much worth it for me to "buy" it.
I dearly wish to use and support this app.
But here's the thing: containers - like so many other mechanisms - suffer from supply-chain risks due to reduced validation to the degree assumed and required compared to, say, good packaging that integrates with the resident source of truth on a given system. Containers, like so many other risky mechanisms that dates back to CPAN or earlier, cannot exist in a secure environment.
For those of us working where we can to minimize repair/recovery work through best practice, Immich cannot be run.
I know there's a homebrew workaround, but given it's external to the dev effort it's a risk that it won't suddenly work as a reliable update resource; and that risk stymies uptake for us.
Now, I know I've suggested there's imperfection in a number of favourite technologies and methods, and that's fine. If downvotes is how you defend these sacred cows, I understand.
Sure supply chain attacks are a thing, but containers aren't the issue. Any package delivery mechanism can suffer from it. Its up to you to verify those containers and/or build it yourself
Yup. Whoever backdoored xz was very close to getting it into production. The only reason they got caught was a slight performance regression and an inquisitive and dedicated developer. https://arstechnica.com/security/2024/04/what-we-know-about-the-xz-utils-backdoor-that-almost-infected-the-world/
Some years ago, a backdoor made it into Gentoo. https://www.zdnet.com/article/linux-infection-proves-windows-malware-monopoly-is-over-gentoo-ships-backdoor-updated/
Couldn't you just lazy build your own images if you don't trust the source?
Even then most of these containerized apps can be run perfectly fine as a host binary, you just have to make your own start script and a systemd unit which isn't that bad.
You could then build a completely custom image if you'd like, or move it into a VM if you don't like the idea of running it baremetal.
@corsicanguppy @sonofearth People concerned about this kind of thing could sponsor distributions to create native packages. For example, hire a debian developer to package and include immich in debian.
I've personally been meaning to package navidrome for debian for several years now, but other things have taken priority.
I got the supporter for free, because I donated to them before they joined FUTO. I donate frequently to opensource projects. This is a good way to say thanks to the devs 😊
Even small donations are fine, so please donate to projects you enjoy 👍🏻
I didn't know they were giving supporter status to people who donated before they joined FUTO
You needed to connect your Github account once, the app checked if you donated, then you got the supporter status
They joined that open washing company? ughhhh