Banana
Banana

Banana

One single plant, cloned thousands of times. Easily devastated by disease.
If you live in a northern climate, you have to rely on a very complicated and expensive delivery system that will supply you with this fruit that can only be grown in the tropics. And the only way to keep it economical is to create an economy where food prices are artificially kept low because first world countries systematically suppress developing countries that grow bananas into becoming stable economies that would actually provide better wages for farmers and workers who would raise the price of bananas.
We have cheap bananas because we don't mind living in a world where we abuse farmers and workers to work for pennies to supply us in the first world with cheap bananas.
And just to rub salt into the wound, someone created a clothing store named after the political corruption imposed on those countries to accomplish this: Banana Republic.
I can't think of what an equivalent would be in terms of offensive marketing, Starving Irish brand potatoes? A Saudi demolition company named after September 11th? A clothing store inspired by antebellum southern US clothes? I guess some companies still use imagery of indigenous people for tobacco products. That seems like it's in the same vein.
Generally, I try to focus on how beautiful life can be, but damn if there isn't a crowd trying to make it ugly for others.
This is why bananas are cheaper in the UK than in Brazil
So they can feed disease too? Is there anything bananas can't do?
Rebound from a viral pandemic, RIP Gros Michel
That’s only the Cavendish, there are other varieties of banana. I was recently in Hawai’i and got to try an Apple Banana that had been grown there.
In Southeast Asia we have lots of banana varieties that we regularly eat.
Picked by slaves.
just like the previous, gros michael, the cavendish is susceptible to a fungal/bacterial disease. Wild type are pratically resistant, or a different species. but they often have that unslightly seeds.
also WATERMelons, figs, oranges.
all the seeded varieties can hybridize, or can cross pollinate with other plants. oranges, often have to use the wild "trifoliate" orange to grow better by grafting onto it. the trifoliate is pretty unique as its very hardy and cold tolerant, also possess defensive spines.
thousands
Millions at least
Do the 16p and 14p bananas taste better than the 13p bananas?
Oh, these aren't meant to be eaten. They're 'for scale' bananas and the price is based on manufacturing accuracy.
It's weight-based.
while that looks dumb, keeping them separate helps them last longer.
But they don't breathe under the plastic, accelerating the ripening
No flared base
Decomposes, no problrm. Self unplugging, if you will.
Based and “no need for flared base”-pilled
...zero mess? What exactly are you doing with the "wrapper?" You know you're not supposed to eat it, right?
Throw it on the ground as a trap for the one walking behind you
You can eat it. Proof: me.
I'm calling the cops.
Get out.
You can absolutely eat banana peels, cooked or raw. They're full of fiber, antioxidants, all your basic fruit goodness. I don't eat them, but I understand the people who do.
I imagine they'd be chock full of pesticides tho
Is this AI slop?? Because I don’t believe this
Just throw it behind your kart to slow down your opponents
I prefer to accidentally throw it in front of my own kart.
The silver lining is that it's biodegradable. And good as compost
also, banana strings
The trick is to get the green/light green bananas as they begin to ripen. Buying yellow to slightly darker yellow bananas will shorten their shelf life tremendously.
I'm not a fan of freezing them as they'll still continue to ripen. Your best case scenario if you start seeing them browning out is to make some banana bread or mix it in cupcake/cake mix.
Or stick it up your butt.
Banana milkshake is where all the dark bananas go for me.
The brown bananas are still good 😏 more sweet and some alc 👌🏻
yuck, banana bread and cupcake are both so full of added wheat and sugar that the product no longer counts as whole fruit.
Bananas are a monoculture. One good, hard hitting, lethal pathogen could extinct them.
There are SO MANY bananas, but most people have only eaten the Cavendish. Awhile back, I got a box of assorted bananas from a farm that specializes in growing unusual fruit. I ate about twenty pounds of bananas in three weeks. So many fucking nanners spread across my entire kitchen countertop for weeks, ripening in stages.
My life has been a lie. Yours too. We've all been hoodwinked. We are getting fucked, and not in the good way, because Cavendish is a straight up garbage fruit. There are tiny tart toothsome Thai bananas, chunky Cuban, alluring Apple, beauteous burro, pleasurably plump Pisang, orally outstanding orinoco, mouthwatering Mysore, and the gustatorily magnificent Gros Michel, the OG mass production bananer, which was replaced by Cavendish in a mycological midlife crisis (I'm drunk and if I was a dinosaur, I'd be a tiny tenacious thesaurus tenuisi). Plus more. So many more. Fucking. Bananas.
They all taste like bananas, but each is a little different, some more than others, but they all had more taste that those Cavendish fuckers. So get fucked Chiquita, Dole, and Del Monte. My banana bread sucks because of y'all.
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I was told a story of a chef I knew about a small, purple banana that tastes like vanilla.
We are getting fucked, and not in the good way, because Cavendish is a straight up garbage fruit.
Good thing they will soon be gone.
What is your favorite banana and how do I get it?
We called all banana as Pisang (indonesia). Do you know which specific variety you tasted?
In Portugal, it's very common to find bananas from the Madeira islands being sold in stores, even in like our equivalent of Walmart or Carrefour.
They're like half the length of a Cavendish, a bit more tasty, but still very similar. I very much prefer them.
I know it's not as exotic as your selection but it was something I was able to eat regularly and pretty accessibly there
But banana tastes like crap. Give me one that doesn't taste like a banana.
...again.
Isn't monoculture a plantation where you grow only one crop? At least in my language it is. But bananas are a genetic clone of their mother plant. That means all plants of one cultivar are n-tuplets, if I remember correctly.
That's worse than a monoculture. 😬
Just like rubber trees.
They're radioactive.
That's the way I like it
Uh huh uh huh
They're completely safe what comes to Potassium-40 radioactivity! You need to eat a massive amount of them to even reach the point where you experience radiation sickness. Actually, you might experience excessive potassium toxicity levels first. (Or you might not! Human bodies are equipped to get rid of excess potassium.) Or, you know, you might experience the problems of stuffing too much stuff down your gullet. There's only so much stuff you can fit in your stomach at one time.
That's the good spice.
Your mum's radioactive
The monopoly that supplies most bananas to the "western" world has long been known to be a murderous corrupt corp? That's the one major drawback to that chewy sweet banana fiber.
That isn’t bananas fault though.
yeah guys im not a part of that whole movement
They'll be gone in 10-15 years? The current popular version anyway. A fungi is destroying them.
It happened before back in the fifties with the last version. Except there's nothing really close this time. The other types of bananas aren't close at all
That old version "Gros Michel" is what artificial banana flavour is based on. Bananas used to taste like that. The newer "Cavendish" variety is firmer and lasts longer, but doesn't have the same flavour. It seems like both are being wiped out by disease though, yay monoculture.
Cavendish seem to be especially vulnerable because they're all clones. They don't produce viable seeds, so they're grafted to new plants.
Might've gone on a search bout baanas last night. I now prefer goldenfinger, a type AA cultivar I have never seen in my entire life.
There is already a gene modified cavendish that is resistant to the fungi, but it's not legal in the EU so it's not being used yet
The lost variety is the Runts candy banana and it makes me sad that it's gross
Are you an AI?
ooh so that's what that is
i heard an old man mysteriously whisper "enjoy your bananas while they still exist, young person" to me at the supermarket a while ago and i didn't know what they were talking about but they sounded very serious so i didn't doubt them.
Clones fall behind the arms race that nature is. Seedless bananas so far seem to last decades
History of banana and why it's cheap.
History of everything you can plant under a society that puts profit over people's life
Jesus Christ you people need to read more history.
It's just a standard fruit. Nothing to see here.
A couple of badly placed cyclones can wreck banana fields and make bananas expensive for a few years.
One bad thing: it's all just clones so now it's extremely vulnerable to one kind of fungus, much like the gros michel banana it faces near extinction
Depending on where you live, there's quite a few varieties available on the market
My local Acme carried red bananas for a while. They are fucking delicious, taste more like a banana custard than a regular yellow banana. They're also a bit smaller so less of a commitment to carbo-loading when you peel one. I wouldn't mind at all if they became the new standard banana, even if it would kind of ruin Mario Kart.
Soon we'll all be able to grow bananas.
Not here around the world, maybe in your banana republic.
We have atleast 10 varities in our country.
half of those plaintaines?
RIP Gros Michel 😢
Time for that ×3 mult!
It's not lost forever. They have seeds in the global seed vault, and there's a few small growers still producing them.
You can actually buy a box of them still. They're expensive as all hell, but you can do it.
Get a few friends together and put some money into a pot, then buy a box and have a banana party.
Cheap
Except when some genius at your local Walmart changes the price from $0.87/pound to $1.56/banana.
My store went from number 1 in sales of bananas in the country to dead last in just under a week because whoever set the prices was an idiot.
Also genetic diversity is in the crapper. One epidemic and we won't have bananas anymore.
number 1 in sales of bananas in the country
Why do you know that data
Because I worked there, in the department that handled bananas.
Well.
We wont have bananas that taste any good. The ones we eat are selectively bred to become seedless, and are thereby infertile, and must be cloned to be propagated.
The species would still exist, but we'd have to start over with developing a plant that produces something edible.
I would love to try two different bananas I have only ever read about:
Unlike that artificial strawberry flavor that sucks compared to actual strawberries, I quite like the artificial banana flavor of candy over an actual banana (which, to me, barely has a flavor at all).
We wont have bananas that taste any good.
Cavendish bananas aren't the only varieties of bananas that taste good. For example Lakatan and Latundan taste good raw. It's just that most of the time they aren't feasible for export.
One epidemic and we won’t have bananas anymore.
Only for a few countries ;) There's still a lot of banana varieties eaten around the world.
There are a lot of types though. Walmart may not have them, but my little 4 meter by 3 meter patch has several varieties and produces enough bananas for about 4 families.
So someone will still have bananas.
wtf they're like 50¢/lb here
name one bad thing about it.
Okay, the wages and working conditions of plantation workers (modern slaves). The cost of bananas in first-world countries is ridiculously low, and is demeaning to those who work hard to enable this privilege for us.
Exactly. The post calls them being cheap a good thing, but when you know about the slave wages, idk if them being this cheap is that much of a positive.
A lot of people just know that one song from the Beetlejuice movie, but it's about the workers in banana plantations:
"Come Mr. tally man! Tally me banana.
Daylight come and me wanna go home."
and is demeaning to those who work hard to enable this privilege for us.
For real! Keeping countries colonised in this day and age is hard work
The taste. I've tried to like them. Had them in smoothies and banana bread, had the is savoury and sweet things. I even made myself eat one everyday while hiking cross country, thinking I'd learn to associate the taste which much needed energy. Nothing worked, they just taste like garbage smells. And the texture! Firm and soft each have their unique horrors.
I had a brazillian co-worker that brought in "real bananas" and it was a night and day difference. way more flavour.
"Real bananas"? Aren't they basically all the same strain of Cavendish?
I'm with you! The texture is a horror.
I can’t stand bananas. Taste or texture. I can do artificial banana flavor but anything with real bananas is gross. I wish I liked them because they’re inexpensive and generally nutritious.
Have you tried fresh banana picked a minute ago ? the small savoury kind (about 10cm long), or the red creamy kind ? the banana world is wide
Have you tried fresh banana picked a minute ago?
No, but if climate change keeps accelerating, I might be able to eat a home grown banana. Unless the gulf stream breaks of first, in which case I can heard reindeer.
Both are horrifying to think about.
I completely agree. I revisit them every year or two to see if my tastes have changed, but I still gag when somebody peels a banana anywhere near me. It’s an automatic involuntary reaction. They are the only food I can think of that give me an immediate gag relfex.
For example, I can be sitting at one end of a train, and I can tell when someone on the opposite side of the train starts eating a banana. I have to put my face in my shirt to stop myself from puking. I wish I liked them, they’re so freaking healthy, but nope can’t do it.
Totally. The smell is awful, ive always associated it with smell of an ripe bag of garbage. I don't know if it's because bananas just smell bad, or because the smell of old banana peel in the trash is the scent that I notice the most, but it's not a good association.
The above user is a cat
They have strings and the little brown tip.
That “little brown tip” is called the bananus.
Fuck you, that snort I made when I read that almost woke up my toddler. Fucking bananus 🤣
Bananas are acoustic guitars.
All bananas are guitars, but not all guitars are bananas
Hey, what do you have against little brown tips?
I love bananas. About three years ago, I started having one banana and a spoonful of natural peanut butter for breakfast every day. It was easy and I loved it.
I put on 15 pounds before I noticed.
🤔 I'm skeptical that it was just the banana and peanut butter that did it.
How big was the spoon?
They would add an insulin spike early in the day, and increase hunger
It was not the banana and peanut butter, lol.
A great example of correlation and causation.
Americans use it as an excuse to avoid converting to metric.
This claim is very dumb... So are Americans.
A bad thing about bananas is that they look like Homer Simpson's penis
Mmmmmm, forbidden penis.
Btw, you spelt good incorrectly.
Except for there is like a 1 hour window when they taste really good and have a good texture. In between when they're green and taste like chalk and when they're full yellow and taste like mushy baby food.
Right in that 1 hour window? Delicious.
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I don't know what the deal is with people who say that. They're good for several days, and they even have a very convenient method for showing you whether they're good or not. You don't really need bananas to last more than a few days, because by then, they're all eaten.
I met someone that likes it a little green and not soft. We don't talk anymore. /S
Sounds like mofongo which is fucking delicious!
This is so true, it's such a small window of being perfect. Meanwhile oranges are just chilling.
Nothing beats that time when Kirk Cameron & Ray Comfort were praising God about the brilliant design of bananas.
The atheist’s nightmare! If they weren’t genetically engineered, that is.
The smarmy arrogant ignorance dripping from that video is both hilarious and enraging.
Self- righteous religious celebrities are awkwardly sexually repressed and their feigned wholesomeness & naivete are nauseating.
My lord I remember laughing my ass off at that video years ago haha
I came here to see if someone had already posted this. I wasn't disappointed.
I have some bad news about bananas. The current strain we use as food is going extinct as the banana trees are ill and dying out. Luckily we're already changing a different strain to be ready for consumption (making them bigger and without seeds because yes, wild bananas are full of seeds).
Also cocoa plants are ill and dying and we don't have a different strain. So some time in the future we will be without chocolate.
It's also not the first time it's happened to bananas. You know how banana candy tastes so different to the real thing. That's how the previous commercial strain used to taste before it was nearly exticted by disease.
Big mike! Or gros Michel. Whichever you prefer to call it.
I thought it was because the chemical banana taste is just a bit different becsue of how it's made, but apparently it's because it's based on older bananas, as I found out in this article.
I have had Gros Michel bananas. They do not taste like banana candy, although weirdly they do smell like the candy much more strongly than the Cavendish.
The replacement for the Cavendish is already being sold commercially in Australia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldfinger_banana
And it's pretty good, though I think Cavendish is better
Bananas have seeds? 😳
Yes, the wild ones. They're delicious, way better than a Cavendish but full of hard, black seeds. Like this:
Wild bananas, yes.
The ones you eat are a perfect example of a genetically modified plant - cultivated specifically for human consumption.
Well, every natural plant have seeds. They need to reproduce. Those without seeds go extinct in one generation.
Like the other replies say, wild ones do. But the ones we eat used to have them too, but we did the same magic on them as we did on wolves by creating pugs. They used to be small and so full of seeds there was barily any eatable parts.
NO CHOCOLATE??? I can't bear the thought of no chocolate
I have a sudden inspiration for a new gmo food.
People are working on that already. Did not work until now as far as I know.
This is a problem that has been known for a while.
or using different species, like blue or red ones instead. wild ones have huge seeds.
The banana republics? The monoculture? The fact the ones in supermarket taste bland and it costs and arm and leg if you want one that tastes good?
Take your pick
Don't forget the pesticides that are so fucked up that the farmers end up infertile
I can't buy non organic bananas, I feel like I am castrating someone. But realistically probably organic also isn't that much better.
Every corporation is practically lying because the only real truth is so riddickulously complicated that even doing research does not ever give a thorough understand of their true action, let alone their actual intent.
Corporations are the blood vein of the vampiritic nature of capitalism.
Mani Mani is the blood itself.
The French islands of Martinique and Guadeloupe are heavily contaminated with chlordecone,[19] following years of its massive and unrestricted use on banana plantations: primarily against Cosmopolites sordidus.[20][21] Despite a 1990 ban on the substance in mainland France, the economically powerful banana planters lobbied intensively to obtain a waiver to keep using Kepone until 1993. They argued that no alternative pesticide was available, which has since been disputed. After the 1993 ban, the banana planters were discreetly granted derogations to use their remaining stocks, and a 2005 report prepared by the French National Assembly states that after the 1993 ban was imposed, the chemical was illegally imported to the islands under the name Curlone, and continued to be used for many years.[9] Since 2003, local authorities in the two islands have restricted the cultivation of various food crops because the soil is badly contaminated by chlordecone. A 2018 large-scale study by the French public health agency, Santé publique France, shows that 95% of the inhabitants of Guadeloupe and 92% of those of Martinique are contaminated by the chemical.[22] Guadeloupe has one of the highest prostate cancer diagnosis rates in the world.[23]
If you know how to read french, there is this comic book from Jessica Oublié, this is really well documented and sadly amazing to read, there are lots of french colonization implications in this story, obviously. The other comic about caribbean colonization by Jessica Oublié is also very impressive work.
We are one minor mutation of a common banana disease away from having to get an entirely new kind of banana, and frankly we are not prepared for that.
bananas are mid anyway, like red apples. nothing of value lost
they dont even have a lot of potassium, you'd have to eat like 70 bananas to get rdv of potassium.
you want rdv potassium (or most any other vitamin) you need to eat fucking vegetables
You have to eat approximately 10 bananas for rdv of potassium.
rdv for potassium is 4500mg. A banana contains approximately 420-550mg of potassium.
While 70 bananas is probably not going to kill you, ld50 for potassium is 2500mg/kg, that much potassium can exacerbate some heart problems.
Two words: banana bread.
Bad thing: banana Republic. Other than that... 100% legit.
And yet supermarkets wrap them in plastic on a polystyrene tray........
That’s counterproductive in terms of shelf life, and just plain gross. If your market does this, vote with your wallet and go somewhere else.
Not mine specifically, but I've seen pictures online. It's a complete garbage move and yeah, plain gross!
Choose one.
Wrapper is edible though
After all the chemical treatment? Sorry, no.
Wrapper is totally biodegradable. Just toss it.
Fun fact: The banana was actually a significant part of the industrial revolution. This was because coal miners could eat it without needing to wash their hands.
What's with the weird censoring of the post metadata? Do we not want to credit the original poster for some reason?
Its a thing on a lot of forums, no identifying information blah blah blah... So reposts such as this will often be edited to high hell lol.
Image metadata gets automatically removed so people don't accidentally dox themselves
The Cavendish banana is a monoculture that your grandkids will never know, the same way that you’ve (very probably) never had a Gros Michel.
Huh. I still see Gros Michel (or a relatively similar breed) at markets from time to time where I live (although I’m in the Middle East)
Edit: I’ve also seen other variants before. I think the Cavendish is the blandest of them all. My favourite type of banana is a bit smaller with a very fragrant smell that’s also sweeter. Not sure what it’s called though
There are a handful of places still growing Gros Michel on a very small scale, hence the "very probably" modifier.
The Cavendish banana is a monoculture
Who could have guessed a group of banana cultivars is a method of growing crops
High glycemic index. Has to be imported from tropical to non-tropical regions. Cavendish variety, pictured above is susceptible to Fusarium wilt aka Panama disease
High glycemic index
Seems pretty high according to this list, 48
It's radioaktiv
Everything is.
What about stable iron?
The massive amounts of pesticides they spray on the banana plantations is pretty bad.
I mean, get Bio and Fairtrade?
bad: shelf life of a banana
good: fun to spell
Look up the history of the banana trade.
What do you mean zero cleanup? Now I have to carry around a banana peel all day. All hail apples (yes, I eat the core).
Also you harvest them every two weeks. Want to sell them already? Just stick them under a plastic carp for a couple of days and they'll be ripe and yellow.
The bad part is loading trucks of bananas is hard work, those things are heavy.
The bad part is loading trucks of bananas is hard work, those things are heavy.
The worst part is when daylight come and me wan' go home but the tally man won't tally me banana.
will any plastic fish work or is it necessary to have a plastic carp?
Carp for best results, may be substituted with salmon or tuna but do not expect the same quality.
If you lack plastic fish, putting the bananas in a plastic bag will work (was that carp a Europe to English cover?)
I guess tarp is what I meant.
They tend to go extinct every so often and need a different variety to replace them.
I've got 2 bad things
Banana smell is so powerful if you leave a banana in the fridge over night any unprotected food will taste like a banana
What if I hire a bodyguard for the banana?
A feature not a bug
even one bite makes gives me such an insane stomach pain and nausea that I'm crying in my bed for three days. and it's not stomach cramps, it just feels like my entire belly will explode and nothing comes out. years ago i could eat them just fine, but now it's also pears and berries...
Get an allergy test. Banana allergies (even though that doesn't necessarily sound like one) are associated with other allergies,including some medications.
So...you might want to know in advance.
If it is not that then try biobananas once. A lot of people are sensitive to the pesticides used.
The new banana isn't as sweet as the old banana and the old one doesn't seem to be coming back?
Being monocultures, (genetic clones) commercially grown edible bananas are extremely vulnerable to disease.
The currently most popular variant is the Cavendish, replacing the earlier and now extinct Gros Michel, wiped out by the Panama Disease (a fungus).
While the Gros Michel isn't coming back, people are apparently trying to create and grow new variants, as what happened before can happen again.
Do you mean the Gros Michel banana ? It went commercially extinct in the '60s due to a fungus. So, yeah, probably not coming back. Sadly, the Cavendish banana is also subject to the same fungus so may also get wiped out at some point in the future.
But Race 4 (also known as TR4 or fusarium wilt), the new version of Panama disease that started affecting crops in the subtropics in the 1980s and wiping them out, has since moved to infect crops in the Vietnam, Laos, Pakistan, India, Mozambique, and Australia. In 2019, Colombia declared a national disaster when it was discovered there. As it inches closer to Latin America, the likelihood of losing the Cavendish increases.
I guess not as I remember having some actually tasty imported bananas in 90's. No idea what happened but currently only even a bit tasty ones are natural and really small and still not as sweet.
fusarium wilt
Mmmmm, fusarium wilt!
It's still around. It just got replaced by the new banana for produce.
You can still buy Gros Michel bananas, they're just harder to find compared to a Cavendish.
Any ideas where to search or where to travel to find those?
They're lousy as long term art pieces.
Bananas make my tummy hurt.
Bananas and coffee don't mix, coffee is life so therefore no bananas for me.
Can you elaborate on that?
I’ll be honest, coffee and banana is my morning routine
They do that to me as well.
I'm allergic to fruits in the Sapindaceae family too.
Not sure what all is included in that but I am slightly allergic to some other fruits as well, they just make my ears itchy though, not upset stomach like bananas do.
They give me a weird mouth feel, kinda tingling and burning.
Honeybee alarm pheromone smells exactly like bananas.
If you're a beekeeper you either already know about it or can test it. Just make sure you're in a bee suit, they will attack you.
I learned this the hard way lol, mangoes also fo that.
Easy. The taste and the texture. Awful.
The taste isn't that bad, but on its own, I'd give the common yellow bananas a "Meh, but not worth that texture" for taste. I'm actually fine with them in other foods, like, I can eat illness-inducing quantities of banana bread. It's just that the most commonly sold bananas have a texture that in other fruits would probably indicate it's rotten. I've tried giving them another chance several times, but as soon as I take a bite, it makes me start gagging.
I've found the odd variety here and there that were actually better in both regards, though. I remember the grocery store briefly had these little red bananas, about half the size of a yellow one, and I tried it on a whim. Those actually tasted good, and the fruit was firm enough to seem like it was something a person was actually meant to eat.
I assume the common, yellow bananas are just bred to be big, produce lots of fruit and have a consistent flavor, even if it's not a very good one compared to other bananas.
Yeah, I'm with you on that. I will eat them in stuff, like bread.
i think you should go and see a doctor, banana tasted wonderful
They make a decent tea bread, but the fruit itself is awful.
1 bad thing of the disease that decimates the crops
on a monocrop, of a sterile clone that is. oranges are similar and equally susceptible. if they arnt grafted on a trifoliate orange rootstock(the trifoliate has the benefit of being a wild type orange which is very cold hardy and disease resistant, also posses the spines on thier leaves of ancestral oranges/citrus, the trifoliate is usually not very edible, because they are very bitter)
Bananas can replace egg when baking desserts. 34 grams of banana per one egg is perfect btw.
They attract mosquitoes
I can name one bad thing. It was used as example of intelligent design by Kirk Cameron…
Looked at another way, you might say that banana made him look like a fool and publicly humiliated him without so much as a word.