They weren't afraid to tell it like it is ... In a private group chat
They weren't afraid to tell it like it is ... In a private group chat
They weren't afraid to tell it like it is ... In a private group chat
this is a perfect example of just because it's well known doesn't make it fact.
now that there is evidence, it's a fact.
Republicans are a party of Nazis.
The question remains: What are the real americans going to do about it?
It's not going to get better by itself, and the rest of the world can't just come over and fix it.
This was news to the people who needed to hear it
It's another notch in the wall. We all wish the wall would come down already... But it will be painfully slow and all encompassing
But every notch does matter
They have to be run out town and any that have acted on their murderous desires need to be tried for their crimes. It makes more sense why USAID was shut down though. These people are part of a death cult and the conspiracy theories are just an attempt to sanitize the murderous plans to gullible people.
These are the real americans..
a third of Americans voted for this and another third couldn't be assed to stop it. this is what "real Americans" want
You think this isn't happening in the rest of the world?
mexico? peru? canada?
... were you guys not watching us politics this entire time? why are yall surprised about this group chat?
One of these ubermensch
14 or 40.
yes
I wish the media outlets would publish pictures of them they didn't pull from Linkedin but actual, social-media pics of these asswipes in their average, every-day, stained house-clothes and hoodies. It may seem superficial but these are the kinds of people who are deeply insecure about themselves and it would do far more damage than exposing their stupid conversations. They're NOT ashamed of what they said, we have to understand that. If anything they are delighting in the attention.
These are just 4chan trolls who matured got older and managed to get a foot in the door of actual political action. While I don't believe they are more serious in their beliefs than any 4chan self-proclaimed nazi, they are definitely going to empower the actual intelligent fascists and monsters who crave power. Showing them as basement trolls and tubby, pathetic social rejects would weaken them in the arena of aesthetic performance and aspirations for leadership in the party.
Yes, as always, the master race: fat, balding, and utterly insignificant without the inbred assurance that their skin color is some kind of achievement.
Real ‘Jared of Subway’ vibes there buddy.
someone needs to teach him how to button a blazer ffs
Not shown, but I would bet my 401k that his pants are way too long.
yes that's his main problem. his blazer has two buttons and he's done them both up
Are we sure that's not a robot controlled by Pinky and the Brain?
He said “Missouri don’t like f**s.”
When I was growing up and people were referred to as “f***y” for how they looked, he would have been called that.
Fucked that they don't even have to exaggerate. The literal quotes are so absurdly vile that they can't be outdone.
They’re not joking. They’re literally starting a genocide and a fascist military police state in front of our eyes
For a decade, I have been begging anyone who will listen to believe Trump et al. whenever they threaten someone. I swear that the only time Trump tells the truth is when he promises violence, retribution, or lawbreaking.
"I love Hitler," Republicans, probably actually
Are those actual leaked quotes on the right?? Good lord!!
In case you haven't seen the report,
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/14/private-chat-among-young-gop-club-members-00592146
I recognize a couple of them from an article, so I think they are.
Verified in New York Times. The graphic of the bubbles comes from politico.
So that's how I find out.
The OG reporting, for others like me.
I think the worst part of all of this, for me, is how unfunny it all is. Like goddamn, they are so bad at humor.
I think the worst part is that the Vice President openly defended them.
"The right can't meme"
I think the worst part is how many worst parts there are.
I think the worst part for me is that these people have power, actual real world power. But being unfunny is definitely pathetic.
It is funny if you're a pychopath
But why are the nazis hiding the Epstein files?
Because the Nazis are also pedophiles.
Please remember, this is the republican party, the party that has fought to lower the age of consent across the nation for decades. This is entirely on brand for what we've seen them fight for in public, and if you're aware of the 50-60 plus pages of Republican sex pests, completely unsurprising.
Because they're also in there.
This is just what Lee Atwater said openly in the 80s.
Its so weird to me how they can be both Zionist bootlickers and nazis at once, it's impressive
It makes more sense when you realise that it’s about oppression, power, and creating scapegoats. Hitler’s closest allies were the not-exactly-Aryan Japanese.
And it’s not like they won’t all turn on each other eventually, anyway. So why not have some strange bedfellows along the way?
Supporting Zionism while being actively antisemitic is a handy way for Nazis to encourage jewish people to segregate themselves. Zionism presents a potentially attractive place to go, and then aggressive antisemitism gives them a reason to leave. The two are not so radically opposed.
The Nazis rhetoric drives more Jewish people to Zionism. Strange bedfellows indeed.
This is starting to fracture a bit with right wing traitor lunatics, but it’s for two main reasons. For some, it’s just about access to Middle East energy resources. That’s the main reason that US policy is to support Israel.
The other thing is for true believing traitor lunatics. They think that Israel needs to exist for the rapture to occur. I don’t remember the details but this is a big part of evangelical support.
Either way, absolute lunacy, but at least if we managed to wean off fossil fuels, support for Israel would evaporate.
The Christian nationalists are deeply religious, so they see Israel as a good thing. End times or crusades or something.
The Nazis might hate Jewish people, but they hate brown people more.
The racists definitely hate brown people more.
They're all in the maga alliance and are getting along for the moment just so they can be fascists.
Don't forget, they're anti establishment also.
It's not that hard to understand the disconnect when you realize Israel are also nazis
It says so much about the Republican Party that they're defending these limpdick fifth-graders instead of saying: "You know what? We don't like these pathetic little shit-stains either."
You should also be aware that the group accepts people up to age 40.
So the framing that these are children or teens is also misleading.
The Young Republicans weren't lying when they said calling their opposition candidates white supremacists might work against them.
We all knew.
Just some 30 year kids. They will say edgy things. I mean, come on guys. … no really, let’s go to ikea and fuck a sofa.
You may have a career in politics ahead of you, my friend. Maybe even Vice President.
From the same party that wants to charge minority children as adults if they misbehave. Actual adults are just kids though.
Only good Nazi is a dead Nazi.
I'm getting so fucking tired of libs' satisfaction with hypocrisy. We already knew these people were Nazis, they've always fucking been Nazis. They say they aren't because gaslighting is a fascist tactic and open support of Nazism doesn't ring with racist middle class people who only have their internalized values to run on. Whenever chuds are caught lying there's thousands of lib gotcha posts like it's a victory.
Why do people on Lemmy always find a way to make everything about liberals? That’s what I’m getting tired of. Whenever something happens, people come up saying “well yeah, liberals suck”. How is that better than the thing you’re arguing against? If you’re tired of “satisfaction with hypocrisy” of one group, what is your prefered group doing? Is there someone actually doing something about it? Because I only see people writing stuff on internet forums, regardless of their affiliation.
My "preferred group" -- whatever the fuck that means -- is currently fighting liberals, as we've always done.
Now fuck off.
It's not a "victory", it's refusing to let this shit slide unspoken
Ok?
Your most recent comment advocates for ableism. I couldn't find a more perfect example of how brutal libs are.
The guys already a Nazi, disability did not make him a Nazi. Being a Nazi is more than enough to make fun of and it's a choice too, so you can do that without also inadvertently devaluing of an entire group of people.
Fuck off.
So the party that likes the slavers, the crossed flag, that hates poor's, ... is a Nazi nest...
What are the news again?
As long as on person is stupid enough to buy their bs they will continue doing it ... :/
Which group chat was this? Also, genuinely curious why "liberal" is used to insult right wingers. I've always heard it used for left wing stuff
Because the technical definition of 'liberal' is somebody who has buy in to the idealogy of liberalism1. According to the original left vs. right wing of the French National Assembly "liberals" were left wing and "conservatives", aka monarchists, were right wing.
That was nearly 250 years ago.
In the modern era where monarchies are mostly extinct the way that an individual achieves the modern equivalent of the "divine right of kings" is via the "right to private property". So both it and conservatism are fighting to fill the niche that once held the monarchists, the fight is whether it should be wealthy corporations or a religious monarchy that fills it. It should go without saying that these are both extremely far right positions.
1 also worth reading a bit about the technical definition/understandings of neoliberalism
Liberal is sort of two separate things - a brand adopted by usually a party that markets itself as socially progressive and a philosophy of property forward law that creates a punch out of individual rights to citizens (and to a much lesser extent subgroups) to things like freedom of movement, freedom from unlawful seizure of property, freedom of expression and "style of life".
If you have existed on the outside of the left wing you might only be familiar with the brand aspect. The criticism of the wider left in general of these "Liberal" branded parties is that they are often performative in their progressive nature. The brand is just marketing.
The hotbutton discussion however inside the wider left in regards to the political philosophy of Libralism is that both the Republicans and Democrats are by technical definition Liberals and that base philosophy has within it the political prerogative of constantly upholding protections on keeping the absurd aggregation of wealth in private firms (something Libralism at it's core is designed to do). A large number of different leftist philosophies see this as a core problem. Therefore in leftist spaces self identifying Liberals are usually flagged as dupes of a branded center-right party - not as progressives who support social causes of wider acceptance.
Libralism as a philosophy is kind of the air we breathe. It's not left nor right. It creates a body of individual rights but Capitalism is used as a measure of what constitutes personal autonomy. Someone dying from a lack of success is acceptable because at it's core Liberalism is designed to coerce (most) people to perform perpetual labour in return for protection inside the system. The system creates classes of people who are citizens who are protected and by doing so it creates exceptions to citizenhood (like prisoners, refugees, immigrants or indigenous peoples) who can be exploited.
Most Democracies are philosophically a sort of blended patchwork of Liberalism and Socialism with some other stuff mixed in. The two are either compatible or opposing depending on which school of Socialism you are talking about.
That actually makes a lot of sense. Thank you. I was raised very conservative, migrated libratarian, and am slowly leaning more libertarian socially but centrist economically. Where I'm from "Liberal" is sort of an insult for the far left so it's weird to see it used within the left. I've never seen that before.
I don't know the specific context you're looking at but when liberal is used on Lemmy as a derogatory it's generally directed at those affiliated with, say, the Democratic party (of America). ITT some comments are drily pointing out that this isn't a good "gotcha" comic because it is objectively obvious what the right's agenda has been this whole time, to the point that calling it out is essentially an empty gesture.
Are you European? Liberal means something else in most of our countries
From the US. Yeah maybe it's used differently elsewhere. It's just a little confusing to me haha
The way I interpret it, it's like when Homophobes call each other f***ts. Homphobes hate being called gay slurs. So essentially the same people don't like being called gay slurs or Liberal.
Oh no the polarization is increasing on both sides.... this ain't good
As usual, within days of an event, pizzacale’s low-hanging fruit shows up.
I dont know. On one hand we have cunts wearing red hats and chatting shit about "men in dresses". And on the other we have blue haired land whales chatting shit about how being "male and pale is stale". I think everyone is just a cunt at this point. And while we dont have an easily recognisable name for it like "nazi", the other side of the CULTure wars would be every bit the horror show the red hat wearing pricks would be if left unchecked in power.
Yeah, thats right. Im both sidesing this mother fucker. I dont care what tragic cult script youve got lined up, ready to go. The fact is, anyone who takes part in the culture wars is a cunt. No ifs, no ands, no buts. Red hats and pick up trucks, or blue hair and septum rings. Youre all toxic and cringe.
Bernie Sanders: Total Blue Haired Land Whale. Can hardly hear him talk over the clank of all his facial piercings. Trynna give everyone healthcare and stop the tidal wave of money rushing out of the pockets of working people into the ever expanding hoards of billionaires. So problematic.
Dude... Are you okay?
No, Im surrounded by morons who think the worst version of a group is reprehensive of that whole group. You do it, they do it, everyone is doing it. Seeing this nest of nazi fuckwits is bad enough. But youre all treating it like its exposing the whole of the other side. Its the same energy that sees people say "the jews control all the money". What, all of them? Every single Jew? Well, that must be some size of table they all sit round when talking about what to do with it.
Next you'll be telling me all black guys are paedos because Diddy is...
You sound like an AI
I dont "sound" like anything to you, you dope.
oh look, it's someone's unearthed post from 2016
Of all the things you could have said to grab some free worthless internet points, that might just be the weakest. You can do better. I believe in you. Come on, dude. You got this.
Fully agree with you
Most ultra leftists are horrible by themselves and would do the exact same thing, and a lot of the politically correctness bullshit from years ago caused many people to vote trump back then.
whats your most radical left position? do you even have any left wing positions?
It's a frustrating echo chamber here. I'm trans and there is tons of extremism from specifically other people in my community. I'm left leaning ( left leaning centrist? ) and people are too tribal when it comes to partisan politics to see the extremity on their 'side'.
The modern political landscape sees people othering their 'enemy'. Understanding them as 'dumb' or 'terrible people', with a complete lack of empathy for their humanity.
Republicans are people too, frequently misguided, and that's a sad thing. I feel sad for them, they deserve my pity, they are lost.
Thank god we have Pizzacake around to let us know about this.
Seriously though, she always has the most blindingly obvious takes, when she's not busy demonising men.
All femimist authors attract a following of dudes who, despite not being antifeminist when asked, somehow always manage to find abnormal amounts of energy to repeatedly and loudly criticize them for objective faults.
Energy and time they rarely manage to find for criticizing authors who are not feminist.
Nah, she's just toxic. Imagine threatening to sue a subreddit and it's mods for making fun of your mediocre comics...
attracting a crowd of critics doesn't make someone a feminist. sometimes it just makes them female or a tall poppy.
Thank God we have Ilovethebomb to give us the braindead anti-feminist take--it complements the comic quite well, really. Racism and extremism were in ample supply thanks to the young Republicans she quoted, but it was the lack of sexism that made the picture feel incomplete. Chef's kiss, sir/madame
It's a fucking bummer that the people here don't know how much of a Karen pizzacake is. I literally just wrote a long ass comment yesterday about why she in particular is a piece of shit. I know for some it really is the OF/blatant misogyny, but I really think people underestimate how shitty her takes are and the lengths she'll go to silence her critics through legal action or bans. People like her are part of the reason why Reddit is so god awful.
https://www.reddit.com/r/bonehurtingjuice/comments/1ggn4a6/pizzacake_posts_are_now_banned/
I've read the exchange and she comes off mostly reasonable, and clearly fatigued. Summary follows.
She got sick of having to personally chase down and ask for removal of each offensive (to her) posts from BoneHurtingJuice after asking mods to handle it (with guidlines) for many months. They didn't, instead they posted her request publicly after she explicitly asked them not to "lest it draw additional ire from BHG users". It drew considerable attacks and she even had her patreon taken down by mass false reports for a while. She finally gave up on individual post modding and requested posts of her art to be banned entirely on the subreddit rules. The lone moderator said no, we will only remove individual posts, and "I'll only remove your content if there is a significant majority in favour [on the subreddit]", and if that's not good enough then "if you want to file DMCAs or whatever then be my guest". That is 1) empty promise as the mod knew her edited content was very popular, 2) a shit response for a mod to make to that request from the artist. So she filed DCMAs and lo and behold the mod made a blanket ban on her art for the sub - I guess it was possible.
Sounds exhausting on her behalf and just looking at the comments on the BHJ threads and applying just a sprinkle of empathy I believe she's not wrong - they're toxic and many of them come across as fairly entitled edgelord kids.
It's a fucking bummer that the people here don't know how much of a Karen pizzacake is. I literally just wrote a long ass comment yesterday about why she in particular is a piece of shit.
People here might not think that because uhhh.. this community is less toxic.
To be honest, this has always kinda been how the conservatives in the US talk when they're by themselves. I grew up in the 70s and heard it quite often from uptight assholes on the right.
It's not anything new, really. It's just that today the communications, instead of being face to face, are online and they leave records of their conversations.
Bigoted jackasses, gonna jackass.
Seconded, my experience as well.
Same and it all begins around middle school when white kids start really being openly racist around their fellow whites like myself.
Not all of them, and it probably varies by geography (getting worse the further south you go), but yeah most of them.