Kamala Harris becomes visibly shaken and furious after being called a “right-wing war criminal”
Kamala Harris becomes visibly shaken and furious after being called a “right-wing war criminal”
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It's crazy to think this all could have been avoided if Biden just kept his word and let us have an actual primary where Kamala predicably would have lost early on.
Instead we got a half assed bait and switch for the worst polling candidate possible. I swear she was picked because she was the cheapest corpo money could buy.
The DNC needs to be dissolved because they keep picking loser corporate stooges that nobody likes in the belief that they can just AstroTurf and gaslight their way to popularity.
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Everyone seems to conveniently forget the fact that the only one that was legally entitled to any of the money raised for Biden’s campaign, over like 3 years of fundraising, was Kamala because she was on the ticket.
Restarting the fundraising process from scratch, after even just a 14-21 day primary process that would somehow also be built out of nowhere, would have meant whoever secured any nomination would have easily been outspent by a mile. They would have had no funds to even campaign on. It probably would have locked all the money that was already donated up too, considering that it would take quite some time to refund all of that money; figure out who was owed what exactly based on what hadnt been spent yet, etc…
Like what the fuck else did anyone expect to reasonably happen? It was stupid for Biden to ever say they could even have had a primary. The real promise he should have stuck to was when he claimed he would only be a one term president years beforehand
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I don't really recall all the rules, but you're right that she was the only one entitled to it legally. However, I'm pretty sure other pacs can run ads for other candidates. For example, you'll sometimes see democrat or republican ads for spoiler candidates. There's surely still a way it could be used to benefit whoever the democratic candidate was. IANAL though.
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And she still probably have won if she'd stuck with the campaign she was running at the start, rather than ditching it to pivot right
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She was the cheapest option. Literally look at the other person talking about how they were the only candidate that could use Bidens money so as to immediately have the millions already invested by big pockets and a candidate they could know they could pay for.
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She outraised trump and still lost. We didn't have a primary because the party didn't want someone who might not support genocide.
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If Biden died rather than step aside who would have been the candidate? It would be Harris as that is who was selected by the states that ran democratic primaries at that point.
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Harris is deeply unpopular with anyone who isn't a rabid neolib and was solely picked by the neolib establishment (read fucking dinosaurs addicted insider trading) for her willingness to be a corporate stooge.
If she was half as wonderful as the online astroturfing suggested she wouldn't have had an abysmal turnout and wouldn't have lost the election along with every primary along the way.
I knew she was cooked the moment she announced her VP and he got 1,000x the enthusiasm and coverage that she did.
We needed an actual democratic socialist to excite people, not another fucking Israeli funded Republican-lite campaigning on a desperate gamble to gaslight people into thinking she isn't just another dogshit neolib.
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The VP has basically no power other than try to persuade the POTUS behind the scenes, which from what I've read, she did to some degree, but to no effect.
Where she blew it was when she said she wouldn't do anything different than Biden. That was the end for her campaign. (regardless of whether anyone thinks it should have been that way or not, IMO that was the death blow)
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That and saying we will have the most lethal military. Plus we want trump and gops immigration policies
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The VP has basically no power other than try to persuade the POTUS behind the scenes, which from what I’ve read, she did to some degree, but to no effect.
The POTUS didn't dictate her positions during the campaign. Stop making excuses just because she supported genocide for you.
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Where she blew it was when she said she wouldn't do anything different than Biden. That was the end for her campaign.
iirc her campaign said “the Biden people” demanded she say that.
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Then it wasn't her campaign.
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So either she should have not made that promise or she should have broken it. Easy enough. It's not like she didn't know what was on the line.
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She wasn't required to listen to the biden people. The biden people hid his mental decline until it was too late. Their political instincts are runny dogshit just like their entire wing of the party.
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Yeah, she was going to become a war criminal, but the voters let her down.
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She presided over the US senate and cannot be dismissed by the president, how did she have "basically no power"???
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Agreed...Also, if she had no power and is not responsible for anything Bidens government did, how is she at all capable of doing the job of the president? her qualifications were that she was a fly on the wall and observed others, but didnt participate in any meaningful way, huh. She simultaneously blameless and had no power, but also the most experienced, most qualified to do the job and the only one the DNC could possibly put up against trump. What a fuckin joke of a party.
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WE HAVE ACTUAL RIGHT WING WAR CRIMINALS DOING WAR CRIMES RIGHT NOW, BUT YES, PLEASE YELL AT THE ONE PERSON WHO HAS ABSOLUTELY FUCKALL TO DO WITH IT AFTER ALL OF YOU TOLD HER THE CURRENT WAR CRIMINALS WILL DO A BETTER JOB.
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If I have to read one more fucking idiot say how it was better to abstain from voting or vote 3rd party than vote Harris because the Biden admin supported Israel I am going to lose my mind.
Like, yeah guess who else is sucking Netanyahu's dick and simultaneously doing way worse heinous shit here at home than a Harris admin ever would do. Fuck not just at home, overseas too, pretty sure she wouldn't have had USAID dismantled and condemned millions to starvation.
But sure hope you feel great about not voting for Harris so we could get someone objectively worse on all fronts, including the Israel / Palestine conflict.
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I highly doubt Kamala would be using $100k missiles to kill venezuelan fisherman.
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It's neat how it was either vote for not-trump or get trump, and so many haters loved them some trump.
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it was better to abstain from voting or vote 3rd party than vote Harris because the Biden admin supported Israel because it legitimized the electoral system without affecting the outcome.
Like, yeah guess who else is sucking Netanyahu’s dick
why is this homophobic trope still being played like it's a major own of fascists??
But sure hope you feel great about not voting for Harris so we could get someone objectively worse on all fronts, including the Israel / Palestine conflict.
Please tell me in what ways the Trump admin was worse than the Biden admin on Palestine. Like an actual example.
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Obviously you don’t understand that liberal means a terrible thing in other countries. Or, so I am reliably informed here. Regularly. Like, constantly.
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Like, yeah guess who else is sucking Netanyahu’s dick
You.
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You're fine with trading the lives of innocent palestinians to maintain your own comfort and security, you deserve Trump and worse
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Yup. These are the chucklefucks who handed Trump the presidency. Now they want to scream at everyone else, but themselves. Embarrassing.
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IF YOU THINK TYPING IN ALL CAPS WILL MAKE PEOPLE LISTEN TO YOU, YOU ARE INCORRECT.
AND YOU SAY HARRIS WAS THE "ONE PERSON" HUH. I DONT THINK YOU COUNT VERY WELL.
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Good.
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I hope the cultists won't come here defending her
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Your hopes were in vain. The pro-genocide brigade is here.
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They was already there since 48
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Too late
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Nope. Just the cultists supporting republiQans.
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Dems are cultists, republicans are too.
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I always thought AIPAC bribes were kinda cheap, but then when you compare it to other lobbying groups and even bribes for spies, that's just an excellent deal on Israel's part.
They can literally buy almost any politician, and they'll defend Israel to the death even after the stakes have dropped to zero. She's not running for 2028, has practically nothing to lose except money, but still defends probably one of the worst Democratic campaigns for decades.
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The worst part about aipac is that were fucking funding it.
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Apparently is so funny for Kamala that Hind Rajab was shot
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First off, I want to be clear that I’m not making excuses for Kamala. This is more of a tangent, but people should know that even though it seems weird, smiling is a natural stress response for some folks.
The instance that is seared into my memory is when I got the phone call that there was an earthquake in the country where my sibling was staying and we hadn’t yet heard from her (she ended up being ok). No matter how tried to fight it, my face couldn’t help but twist into a grin. It kinda fucked me up. Like: “What is my body trying to tell me?” “Do I subconsciously want them to die?” It was only years later that I found out that this is normal. Looking back, I think it especially sucks for kids who can’t help it, can’t explain it, and get the “Do you think this is funny!” treatment.
Anyway, if you find yourself or someone else in a similar situation, please don’t judge too harshly.
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No, this is definitely the smile of i do not take you seriously. Kamala is paid by aipac and promised to continue giving billions to maintain settler colonialism
All her jobs required stress management you can't convince me that she is stressed for a random perdon screaming at her. This is definitely not similar to someone panicing because of an earthquake
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I dothat, so I hear you. But her grin seems pretty relaxed, if not smug
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Anyway, if you find yourself or someone else in a similar situation, please don’t judge too harshly.
She supports genocide. She gets no benefit of the doubt. She was smiling because she was trying to contain laughter.
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Stop living in the American ethos bubble by only comparing her and others to the politicians within our borders. Relative to what the world considers Left and Right to be, she and Biden are Right wing.
She was a world leader. She must be measured as such.
Edit: I don't think the message warranted moderation and removal.
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So we should judge her by European standards which you are calling “the world’s standard”? The left= anti-capitalist is very much a European perspective.
Let’s not continue to mistake Europe and European views for “The World” because that is historically problematic. Much of the world is still trying to figure out what rights people have from/by their governments.
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She is definitely a right wing politician by western standards. And shes at least a funder of war crimes.
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I mean what do you call someone who supports right wing policies and does war crimes then?
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They think the dems need to move even further right so probably a good leader?
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Right wing by whose standards? There are a lot of Euro-centric folks who forget anti-capitalist= leftist is NOT universal.
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Trump, and these people helped get him elected.
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How did Harris "do war crimes"? Did she give orders to the IDF? Is she a member of the Israeli government?
It took a while before the international community sort of acknowledged this war was a genocide. Israel always has been great at playing the victim, and has always been under the protection of the US. In this context, the US government under Biden provided support, as it often does. Many other states did, and still do.
My point is, the whole fucking world is complicit. Is everyone a war criminal now? Should we be using this to drive yet another wedge among the left?
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On of the things that allowed Trump to become president is the division among those who were against him.
She and Biden were right wing war criminal though. Why is it crazy to acknowledge the truth? Because lying and pretending we can be friends with right-wing war criminals might help elect a right-wing war criminal that's not as insane as the right-wing war criminal that ended up getting elected?
Kamala and Biden said they don't care about voters who they've alienated by committing genocide. They knowingly caused such division, so they're all to blame for that. Trump being elected can fairly be blamed on them.
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she definitely is both right wing and a war criminal. she supported genocide… isn’t much more obvious than that..
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centrists want to keep supporting genocide without being called the only thing they have ever been.
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Harris is far from being a leftist, but calling her a right wing war criminal is crazy.
She supported genocide exactly like you're doing here.
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If she bursts out in laughter rejecting the notion of her having a socialist or progressive perspective; she probably isn't a leftist, left-leaning, or "center-left".
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She wasn't a rightwing war criminal because she didn't have real power yet, but she was definitely an aspiring rightwing war criminal. Surprise surprise, materially supporting genocide is a war crime.
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She did exercise power and influence. She herself confirmed she was actively involved in these decisions.
And as Biden’s border czar, she deported so many people that even Stephen Miller is struggling to keep pace with her numbers.
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She should have resigned but no she accepted a poaition of complicity
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Yeah but things are so much better for palestine under trump. larger munitions are essentially the same, not getting aid as the same as not getting enough. formal annexation of their land is the same as the status quo. This international relations equal war crime is so annoying.
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One error. It wont be "four years of trump", because either he dies earlier or he lives long enough to start his third term.
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because either he dies earlier...
There is not one single thing about this world that makes me think we're lucky enough for that. I'm fully convinced we're heading for Trump 20XX... :/
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How many scummy person dies so late?
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the good die young.
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Or the end of the free democratic election system in the US.
From now on, every "election" will be a shit show that will push through idiot leaders that the people don't want.
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Thats what the "third term" implies. The end of democracy in the US is a prerequisite for that.
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I mean, that's been the past three presidential elections anyway.
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Its fair to call Harris out on her support of Israel. It is bullshit to say she is why we have Trump. We are why we have Trump.
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Where exactly is she shaken?
I only see her standing up for a splitsecond and then a smirk at the end.
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I know this is very very old news / old man yells at clouds but,
Couldn't you just slap "visibly shaken" onto fucking anything? Headlines suck
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She's on pills I didn't believe the headline for a second
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Gotta sensationalize everything to get those updoots!
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The smug look on her face just makes me want her to die.
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Part of why she lost.
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To say "we have trump because of you"... trump is trying to create an apocalypse on earth and kamala is the villain.
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What’s your issue? Nothing about the statement is inaccurate. Though it is missing a lot of context, such as it was Clinton who ordered the pied piper strategy to elevate Trump to the nomination, so she shares a lot of the blame.
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I don't think we're going to get someone to the left of Kamala for the next few presidents. All the protest voters helped our country choose hard mode, and a lot of them are trying to rationalize it in any way that doesn't make them feel like they played a part in such a close election.
We have Trump because more people voted for Trump, and lots of people didn't vote at all. You could blame Biden or Kamala, sure, but the entire political party could also be blamed, along with the establishment itself. Was Kamala the best candidate to run? Probably not. Biden decided to try for another term, though, and we ended up where we are.
When you can choose between the lesser of 2 evils, or not choose at all: be aware of what "not choosing" will actually do.
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We should never stop holding leaders responsible for their actions.
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i mean you lay down with dick cheney you get up with war crimes knowwhatimean?
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People like Biden and Harris and Obama and the Clintons are leading us down the road of complacence to the fundamental problems that are destroying us. They deserve nothing but derision and scorn. This is the test of our time. The future is with, in so much as it can be “with” politics, people like Mamdani and Platner. If you are against these policy proposals and against the culture of these campaigns, you are against progressive politics and you are against rational governance.
If you’re against these campaigns you can go fuck yourself right to hell, and you will be written into history accordingly.
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There is absolutely no reason to cast out Trump, Vance, Johnson, and Miller if we don't also cast out Obama, Pelosi, Schumer, and Jeffries. The old Democratic guard is committed to just leading us right back to where we are now.
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Graham "Forgot to mention I was a Blackwater mercenary" Platner is definitely not it.
Zohran is also starting to become a letdown.
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"We have four years of Trump!"
I guess it's good to see that someone is still an optimist.
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She is absolutely right wing, but I don’t think she has ever had enough authority to be a war criminal.
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The US vice-president, second in command, who presides over the US senate and cannot be dismissed by the president has not enough authority???
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Anyone who is not an American Liberal knows she's right a right-winger. Moreover - no top of that. If we're into semantics, she's also a genocide supporter. Joe Biden is the war criminal.
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She has just enough authority to ban Palestinian voices from the DNC.
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There's a dude in these comments saying "every person who works for a government that supports genocide and doesn't resign is a war criminal."
I was told this place was much more chill than Reddit and now I'm feeling like that may not be true lol.
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I was told this place was much more chill than Reddit and now I’m feeling like that may not be true lol.
It is. Far less genocide supporters. You should consider going back to Reddit though.
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found the right wing troll. blocked
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Go somewhere else then, the adults are talking.
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What an incredible disappointment of generational proportion she was.
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That lady has a great voice for a punk band
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Good for that protestor. Look at that dumb smug bribe-taking loser smiling on stage. What a waste.
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"Kamala Harris doesn't behave in a ladylike way and that's naughty of her"
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She lost because a bunch of idiots decided to stay home and not vote. She didn't do anything worth having Trump as the president. What a terrible look the folks in this video are projecting.
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Objectively false by any metric
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I think this what they were referring to
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Fuck right off with this view point man. I hope you smug assholes are happy for building the foundation that gave us Trump for 4 more years, while you continue to slob on the balls of the right wing democratic party.
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She lost because she ignored her base embraced right wingers and zionists. In short, she's an idiot and a bad dem-- at best.
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You unconditionally support a genocide for just two years and suddenly you're a "war criminal." So much for the tolerant left.
Just two years? How long has she been in politics? It's much longer than that.
How much power do you think VPOTUS has over Israeli policy?
She had complete control over her own campaign platform, where she chose to be in lockstep with Biden.
Enough to have a backbone? To stand on morality? No one made her back genicide. Like the fuck we talking about?
Enough that AIPAC gave her over 9 million dollars so far lol