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Innacurate. Obama used drones, saving countless american lifes. You naughty tankie.

"YOURE A BOT!!!!"

Some mf whose only posts are US corporate news and comments are 95% spreading the reddit lib bullet points

Your opinion is not shared by all, which should be obvious.

Hey hey don't start with excuses. Russian/CCP bots don't need to touch grass!

Shit none of them talk about where theyre at. The bleeding edge of late stage capitalism.

And they're only going slower so they can keep going longer

in general go much slower

Tell that to Palestinians, the truce has been implemented famously not during democrat rule.

Wait until you find out Obama deported twice as many immigrants(could be just Mexicans, I can't remember) as Trump did. Or when you find out Obama dropped more bombs on Muslim countries than Trump. Or that Hillary raised twice as much money from corporations in '16 than Trump (same with Harris in' 24)

Kids are still in Cages. Biden just kinda forgot to release them once he got elected. I bet you have already forgotten Trump I.

The Democrats have consistently expanded ICE

This.

Or be even more productive and go.....

"STAND UP AND GET OFF THE FUCKIN RAIL AND GO LIVE YOUR LIFE!!!"

the FPTP crutch is a national security threat and will cause the nation to crumble.

Don't threaten me with a good time

Hey OP, you wanna go ahead and go to any neighborhood that’s been raided by ICE and tell them how the Dems are exactly just as bad as the GOP?

I'll tell you.

This shit was already happening. Yes, it's taken another step under Trump, but the incrementalism occurred with Democratic fascists as well. What Trump is able to do now would be impossible if Democrats hadn't seized on the illegal powers dreamed up by Clinton and Dubya and ran with them.

Clinton, while fucking his interns, invented 'Don't Ask Don't Tell' and did nothing about persecution of gay people, and in fact, he was the one who signed DOMA. He invented "peacekeeping actions" so he could make war without calling it that, and he did just that. He cut the social safety net wholesale, making Americans poorer, and doubled down on poverty with his 'free trade' policies that helped usher in the era of companies moving offshore and killing US jobs. Oh, and he was a regular on Epstein's island and the Lolita Express.

Obama let police run roughshod in Ferguson and New York City, brutalizing victims of police violence and people who lost their homes and decided to participate in Occupy. He appointed Tom Homan and put kids in cages. He made torture explicitly extra-legal. He walked into Flint and performatively drank a glass of water. He dropped 26,000 bombs in the last year of his presidency and left office with American wars brewing in seven countries. We also learned under Obama that police departments in the US have black sites and his presidency was kidnapping renditioning people to black sites in foreign countries. He also ordered drone bombings that killed American citizens.

We knew Biden was going to be shit when, in a time people wanted federal police reform, he mocked the change people wanted in his State of the Union address by calling for greater police militarization, and his presidency gave rise to 'cop cities'. Even worse, it's now possible for cops to hang out in a school that's getting shot up, on camera, with zero consequences. After January 6 he did nothing meaningful to slow the evident rise of domestic fascism, showing a greater interest in keeping his scumbag son out of prison. He deported undocumented immigrants by the millions and continued the policy of caging kids. Biden earned the moniker 'Genocide Joe' for aiding and abetting the genocide in Israel, even when Israel escalated it into a manufactured famine, which is a war crime. Then he ran for president knowing he had dementia, paving the way for Trump's second term, prioritizing his own ego over the country's well-being.

This isn't a 'Democrats are better' scenario. Most people just haven't really paid attention to what Democrats do or have the short-term memory of a goldfish.

And before you try to argue they were powerless, consider that all three of these men had the presidency and control of Congress, just like Trump. They had all the power they needed to make real change. They just didn't care.

Are you one of those? Or do you just talk over them, depriving them of their voice?

Hey hypocrite.
Want to tell all the deported and kids in cages under Genocide Joe how that was much better?
Or that bombing brown people everywhere in the world, droning weddings or aiding genocide of Palestinians is better bcs it's under those Dems who have those famous 'democratic values' they're always crying about?
Just say it like it is, libs only care about themselves.
You all didn't give a fuck about what you did to the world since forever.
And you probably also don't give a fuck about trans people either.
The problem is now the fascism you supported has come home, and the libs don't like the taste of their own medicine.
That's ALL that bothering you.

Enjoy your karma, hope you get a lot of it.

wanna go ahead and go to any neighborhood that's been raided by ICE and tell them how the Dems are exactly just as bad as the GOP?

Those neighborhoors will tell you that ICE had been around since 2002 and while happy you're finally getting with the program, despite the current administration's best attempts, 2012 was the worst year so far right after the democrats had their governmental trifecta and with the dreamers bait and switch.

So yes, while different flavors, they have been equally bad.

go tell a bunch of drag queens and trans people.

Republicans despise them, Democrats love to use them. That isn't necessarily better.

go find some under aged girls who've been impregnated by adult men and tell them the Dems are just as bad as the GOP.

Fucking yes, the big Epstein reveal is that it's all of them. The Trumps and the Clinton's.

Hey OP, you wanna go ahead and go to any neighborhood that’s been raided by ICE and tell them how the Dems are exactly just as bad as the GOP?

Obama Leaves Office As 'Deporter-In-Chief'

Democrats tried so fucking hard to outflank the Republicans from the Right for eight long years. But as soon as they lost, its those damned leftists at fault for not voting harder.

Hell, go tell a bunch of drag queens and trans people.

I've got a trans friend who has more rotten things to say about Joe Biden than your eardrums can handle.

While you’re at it, go find some under aged girls who’ve been impregnated by adult men and tell them the Dems are just as bad as the GOP.

Sure, which victim of Clinton's should we start with?

"This is the problem with you Amerikkkan imperialists, you only care about your own people and don't give a shit about anyone outside your country"

~(a paraphrase of) an actual reply I got one time when I shared this sentiment

Organize your locality, get involved with local politics start a communal garden, do literally anything more than just vote

Join PSL and DSA and do not vote until they follow through with demands, both sides continue genocide and war on a grand scale

Help the axis of resistance fight the west.

There are no socialists in any position of power in the democratic party, you are delusional

Five minutes ago I saw discussion about a Democratic candidate, who was a Blackwater merc, Abu Ghraib guard and has a Totenkopf tattoo. Both parties are full of fascists.

"Both sides

There is one side, the omnicidal rich imperialist side, and it wears two faces to fool people like you.

"Economic conservatives" AKA

Genocide denier

In Poland last election saw 17 parties and 43 independents in sejm, but all of them are neoliberal fash ghouls.

What that means in the American system is we vote against liberals in the primaries, and we vote for them against the fascists.

The democrats are also funding this genocide:

There was no Alligator Auschwitz under the Democrats.

The democrats expanded these immigrant prison camps. Some stats from the Obama era:

• Deported over 3M immigrants during his presidency, 2 Deported over 400k people in 2012 alone. Helped grow ICE, and the US mass immigrant detention system.
  • In the present day, ICE (U.S.Immigration_and_Customs_Enforcement), the police tasked with immigration enforcement, operates over 500 prison camps, holding over 34,000 undocumented people deemed "aliens", 20,000 of which have no criminal convictions, in the US system of immigration detention. The camps include forced labor (often with contracts from private companies), poor conditions, lack of rights (since the undocumented aren't considered citizens), and forced deportations, often splitting up families. Detainees are often held for a year without trial, with antiquated court procedures pushing back court dates for months, encouraging many to accept immediate deportation in the hopes of being able to return faster than the court can reach a decision, but forfeiting legal status, in a cruel system of coercion. After the creation of DHS and ICE, the budget for immigration enforcement doubled from $6.2 billion in 2002 to $12.5 billion in 2006 under Obama. 1, 2,3

Guantanamo Bay wasn't a concentration camp for immigrants under the Democrats.

The democrats didn't close their torture camp in Cuba either.

I submit that the Democrats are at least 1% better than the Republicans, and that this proves the meme is fake news.

You can't just state something as fact and not show your work. You are making a claim it's up to you to support it. You can't just go around saying "I'm right unless you prove the negative".

You have not placed any goalposts to begin with, what is your definition of "better"? By what metric are you using? What do you mean by "under the Democrats"?

How about we define "better" as "death rate per capita within immigration detention centers"? And "under the Democrats/Republicans" as "who holds the executive branch"? We should see an increase during the Bush years, when ICE was first created, a decrease during the Obama years, followed by an increase during Trump's first term, decrease during Biden, and increase under Trump's second term right?

Is that what happened?

If you don't like my attempt at making your claim falsifiable, which I suspect you won't; especially when you see the results, feel free to redefine your lose language into something else rigid and falsifiable. Set those goalposts.

No, you vote in a way that gives you power. Voting blue no matter who loses power. See 2020.

So did you miss the recent bipartisan genocide or...?

No one owes the Democratic Party their vote. To some people genocide is about the worst thing that anyone can do and the Democrats did it.

If you have to vote between a candidate who wants to build 5 concentration camps and another candidate who wants to build one. You vote for the candidate that only wants to build only one concentration camp.

Well it's a good thing that we didn't have that binary choice then. My ballot had a few options, some of them even opposing concentration camps, so I got to vote against them.

The US is not and has never been a democracy

If you have to vote between a candidate who wants to build 5 concentration camps and another candidate who wants to build one

So you support China in their liberation of Tibet from feudal serfdom? You support the Soviet Union destroying Nazism despite the excesses made in the gulag years? Or do you only extend this courtesy to capitalist imperialist regimes?

If the system is demanding that you support concentration camps, your main concern should be the destruction of the system by any means necessary, not the reduction of harm within it, and any measure that could be directed to the former instead of the latter probably should be.

If, hypothetically, the government demands that you choose between Hitler and Mussolini, the correct measures to be taking are ones directed at toppling the government.