Three children zip-tied at the San Antonio immigration court, ages 9-12

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no matter what you think of (maybe illegal) immigrants, tying up minors is totally stupid. typically american, i would even say!
- The cruelty is the point, as per standard procedure.
- it is disgusting - what the state is doing.
- Tying up minors in itself may or may not be unreasonable. Zip ties are a common field hand cuff. That being said, if anyone hasn’t shown a need to be restrained (ie. Violent), they should not be restrained
  
  Oh yeah, you think that 9 year old may have been a threat?
  
  i agree fully
  
  why were minors cuffed? bigotry.

This is America now.
I'm ashamed of my country.
- This has always been America. We are just seeing pictures this time.
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_removal
  
  The pretense has fallen

If people wondered what they would do during the 1930s, now we know.
A lot of people would cheer for the Nazis.
I know I'm not doing enough, and it's depressing as heck. Most people I know are doing less. No protests. Not talking about it. Just head in the sand.
- It's still early. The Nazis took over in 1933, but their first euthanasia program didn't start until 1936. The Holocaust didn't really start in earnest until about 1939.
  We can't let it get that far, of course, but the point is that it will take some time to get bad enough for people to start really fighting back. I suspect that protests will get really ugly and violent next summer, in the closing stretch before the 2026 Midterm Election.
  
  There are a lot of different ways to resist. I'm throwing my money and some volunteer effort at lawsuits to gum up the works, add friction to a bunch of the Trump administration's decisions, and make them expend a ton of resources even to accomplish the things within their power (or that are inevitable).
  I know people who are feeding bad data into the surveillance state, clogging immigration and DEI tip lines with plausible but ultimately incorrect leads that waste their time.
  There's a pretty serious boycott movement and it is making a difference to some businesses' bottom lines.
  There's a bunch of other ways to contribute:
  Stirring the pot and feeding internal faction rivalries, like DOGE vs populist MAGA vs business interests. Elon Musk has lost a few prominent internal fights (China briefing at the Pentagon, hand picked IRS chief fired less than a week in, his NASA pick being withdrawn). These guys think chaos is a ladder, but chaos can swallow them up, too.
  Disruption with plausible deniability: blocking doors and driveways that look unintentional, jury nullification, firing Trumpers for pretextual reasons, wasting Trump supporting businesses' time and money, pranks that cause Trumpers to gather in the wrong place, etc.
  Further escalation as situations warrant.
  If things escalate to where property destruction, outright fraud or scams or other white collar crime, or violence is justified, it won't be sudden. It will be a gradual build up, with legal resistance giving way to nonviolent disruption to property destruction and theft to violent resistance. But I think it's worth exhausting the less disruptive options first, and be satisfied that escalation is justified at each step where that actually happens.
  
  I think some of these protests so far are controlled opposition to prevent real progressive movement in preference for same old bs from DNC. We need to weed out the fakes
- You're right, but your not alone. There are thousands of us around the US protesting, boycotting, going to town halls, and getting involved in the government (https://www.fiftyfifty.one/). It's just hard to see since media corporations want to keep the status quo. It's not going to be easy to change our political system, but it's been done before. Just read our Declaration of Independence. We have to keep fighting or no on else will.
  
  Edit
  Here's part of the second paragraph of the declaration
  We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
  
  I've got to a couple protests but they feel like they're just for show. They're not disruptive. They're not making clear, actionable, demands. They're better than nothing. i saw people handling out flyers so maybe some people went to more meetings.
  But I feel like there needs to be more specific stuff. Like, a demand that musk be removed from government, or trump be removed via the 14th amendment, or whatever, and that needs to be backed by "if you don't listen to us, then you don't get any more labor". (Violence, I'm told, is less effective, but can also be there in the subtext)
  But actually organizing large things is hard, especially when the state and the money are opposing you.
  I can't even get my friends to suffer the mild inconvenience of getting off facebook, nevermind getting off the couch.
  
  I feel like this 'movement' is a pressure valve to let off steam and stop any actual rising up.
  Protesting, boycotting, and townhalls were acceptable methods before he got power. Now praxis is needed.

America needs to change their anthem.
- Team America has some bangers they could use. And most would not even get the satire
  
  team america only starts as satire, in the end it's pretty ra ra usa
  
  Born in the USA.

MAYBE those CHILDREN shouldn't be CRIMINALS!
-People who Voted ENTHUSIASTICALLY for the Convicted Felon!
- Imagine being a shitty heartless fucking Republican.

That sundress and hair bow are a clear sign of possible violence. I'm pretty sure that pink butterflies are some sort of gang sign. I'm so glad those officers are now safe from that threat. Bless. 🙏
- Sundress is where they hide their handguns though

Nazis doing Nazi things.

but if I were to cut them loose, I would be the criminal?
- If you were to shoot the fascists next to them in the head, I would consider you to be the hero.
  
  Hell, I'll chip in for bail

Nazi fucks.

The Americans don't consider them children, to them they are "subhumans"
- Republicans like to call the minorities “adults” the moment they’re born in an attempt to diminish their innocence.
  
  you mean "the moment they're conceived", right? adulthood starts at conception obv
- Illagals

All immigration officers that follow orders are like Nazi SS, a human would refuse to carry these ideals through
- The Nazis were very much humans. We need to stop "othering" evil. The Nazis weren't some grand anomaly of people and Fascism works by prying on the same vulnerabilities that are present in all humans when it gets enabled through capitalist policies
  Es waren nicht Hitler, Göring, Goebbels, Himmler oder wie die anderen heißen, die mich wegschleppen und prügeln ließen. Nein, es war der Schuster, der Nachbar, der Alte, der Milchmann, der Postbote, die Formlosen bekamen plötzlich Armbinden und eine Mütze auf dem Kopf und dann waren sie die Herrenrasse.
  -Karel Stojka, Ausschwitz survivor
  "It wasn't Hitler, Göring, Goebbels, Himmler or whatever the others were called who had me dragged away and beaten. No, it was the cobbler, the neighbor, the old man, the milkman, the letter carrier, the shapeless suddenly got armbands and a cap on their heads and then they were the master race."
  
  I recognize biology, but if you choose to follow nonsense and have no critical thinking, you are a rascist Nazi.

Keep it classy America

No need for human rights when you're not viewed as a human 👍

“Hans, are we the bad guys?”

This is so fucked.

Big bad pigs, afraid of children.

The judges complicit in this fascist administration will be on the same list as the rest of the fascists
They will be prosecuted at the next Nuremberg Trials

Not here. Please... Not anywhere, but please not here... This is the most disappointed I've ever been of my hometown.
- Don't feel too bad, we're all disappointed in your hometown.
  
  Ouch.
- Native here as well, and also disappointed. We can't throw all ~1.5M San Antonio residents under the bus, though. All I can say is that my local precinct did its part to not elect the current POTUS.
  
  Source
  
  I'm not throwing all the residents under the bus. Only the people representing us. Now is not the time to go with the flow; I thought SAPD always bragged about building nice relationships with the denizens.