“Extreme Danger”: Harris Earns a Stunning Endorsement Over Trump

Looks like teaching history was important after all...

It seems like this message resonates strongly with about 1/3 of people across time and space.

If Republicans have control, nothing you say regarding Palestine will matter.

I sadly suspect that political orthodoxy will continue, and that orthodoxy is "it's okay for the IDF to kill innocent people".

You should not normalize genocide by voting for any genocider candidate, nor publicly rationalizing doing so.

Yeah, it sucks but everyone just needs to hold their nose and do what will have the best outcome.

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You're being downvoted but you're not wrong. While a Trump presidency has dark implications it happening due to foreign interference would be no different than the coups, assassinations, and implanted dictatorships America has done in other countries for decades. Trumps whole immigrant fear mongering doesn't happen if the US government had helped the countries they fucked up in Central and South America.

I think it's important to remember this

This new tack that Harris is bad for Black people is as transparent as it is far fetched.

As the California AG, she piloted programs that provided educational resources to both released prisoners, as well as at risk kids beginning in elementary schools.

Those programs reduced truancy and improved outcomes for at risk individuals and families, who were disproportionately black. They have since become national models of social harm reduction.

Harris supports legalization of marijuana and releasing non violent drug offenders, again disproportionately benefiting black Americans.

Edit: Although these statements are all trivial to verify, some people may lack the basic search skills to do so. the following links provide additional information:

Attorney General Kamala D. Harris Launches Initiative to Reduce Recidivism in California 2013

Kamala Harris, District Attorney for San Francisco, launched Back on Track 2009

[The program has] Been adopted by the National District Attorneys Association as a model program.

Kamala Harris Will Legalize recreational marijuana 2024 official campaign announcement

I mean, it's no secret that a bunch of countries are running massive disinformation campaigns in order to divide the populations of western countries. Attempting to destabilise another country by propping up certain political factions is a tactic that has been employed across the world for at least the past century (see: Lenin, and how he got in power).

Of course, we are responsible for ensuring that we do not become fascist states, but acting like theres no outside influence propping up the fascists is naive at best.

So many options for the title:

Jiminy Cricket is a Putin plant.

America's Collective Conscience: Misguided or Manchurian Candidate?

Ask not what your country can do for genocide, ask what genocide can do for your country.

China is 100% for Trump. Iran is more complicated.

In 2020, FL Hispanics were bombarded with ads saying that Biden would give away Florida to Castro as part of his love for communism or deport them all to Cuba. Trump won FL by a large margin, mostly because Miami area was not as blue as in the past. 60% of FL voters still voted for $15 minimum wage.

JFC people are fucking stupid

Biden would give away Florida to Castro as part of his love for communism

I love how utterly deranged republican shit is in the US, and seemingly there are people so braindamaged they take it serious. 😂 Really goes to show how much worse things could be in many countries. At leasy they're not the US, basically.

I mean, he's promised to deport Americans who protest on behalf of the Palestinians. He sure wouldn't hesitate to deport Palestinian refugees.

It is no choice between someone who disappoints me in their responses on this issue, and someone who openly wonders if sending a nuclear warhead into a hurricane a couple hundred miles offshore will lead to a positive result. And of course that was with where his mental state was at over 4 years ago.

IA! Fthagn!

Every general election is that way. We've had alternatives.

If Harris loses the fault will be with every Democrat that voted Biden over Sanders in 2020. That was the window we had to transform the Democrats into a party that would absolutely crush the MAGA movement. We missed it and we may not see another in this lifetime.

And every cycle both choices become more and more evil.

The US needs to fix their voting system. Preferential voting, run-off, whatever. First past the post sucks.

Also the gerrymandering.

They were going to come in here regardless. And they have.

Called it.

"I care more about Palestine than those worthless Palestinians do."

It's not false that Trump would be even worse though, having encouraged Netanyahu to be even more brutal than he is. So if you have the choice between a vote to keep Trump out, or not voting and making it easier for him to take over, the less worse (but still bad) option for Palestine is to vote for whoever will most effectively keep Trump out.

I know this kind of electoral pragmatism feels a bit disgusting, but the cure for that is to get politically active outside of the electoral system, in addition to keeping the worst candidate out at election time.

We all understand that people are allowed to make stupid choices.

They claim it isn’t happening. Just a Western lie.

Well, first of all, I would be very careful equating Jewish people with support for Israel and their attacks on Gaza. Not all Jews are Zionists, and not all Zionists support Netanyahu. I don't know the numbers for sure, but I would bet that Evangelicals and military hawks make up a larger base of pro-Israel voters than the Jewish population.

The thing is, Biden's policy, from a material position, is essentially, "There is almost nothing Israel could do that would limit our military support," while Trump's position is, "There is absolutely nothing Israel could do that would limit our military support." If you're the kind of voter that would be put off by any criticism of Israel, you're probably voting for Trump no matter what.

Like, sure, I'd Harris started chanting, "From the river to the sea!" and demanding the immediate decolonization of the Israel, yeah, she'd lose a lot of voters. But if she had taken a position like, "Israel has a right to defend itself, but the bloodshed in Gaza has gone on long enough, and we must acknowledge that the Netanyahu administration has been a major obstacle in ceasefire negotiations," she would have been massively more appealing to Palestinian supporters, and she would have only risked hard-liners who, again, almost certainly have gone for Trump anyway. Instead, she told Netanyahu that she would, "not be silent," on Palestinian suffering, and since then, has been mostly silent on Palestinian suffering. It's like she was trying to appeal to no one on this issue.

Nor should they. Nobody should shut up about the genocide of Gaza. They SHOULD shut up about the stupid idea that not voting for Harris is any kind of way to help that situation.

Unfortunately it is not that. Notice the description of the letter signatories and their associations.

First, it is not just Palestinians. It is likely they would have 10% of the signatories if they had that requirement. It is Palestinians, Arabs, "Progressive Democrats", and "Community Leaders".

Second, it is the usual constellation of party groups and the heads of NGOs, I.E. people heavily personally invested in the party apparatus and toeing the line.

While I am sure some feel all kinds of negative emotions, at the end of the day these are largely self-intrtested climbers. You will recognize the type if you do work in this space. They always pop up when you try to organize substantial changes, they cooedinate with the party for PR purposes.

Yeah but that’s not the choice offered to you. And you can only make the choices you are offered.

You can vote for the least worst candidate, and also work to build momentum for the radical change we actually need. Just withholding a vote doesn't achieve anything. The political class isn't going to look at low turnout and say "damn, elections are getting unpopular, we'd better revolutionize the political system." Vote, and also work on building popular support for real change.

Yes, absolutely. One must work for justice, not support those who actively work against us.

we've been picking the less shitty options for generations and it's painted us into this corner of a choice between a democrat genocide enabler and a republican who wishes he could.

what indication is there that doing the same thing we've always done will make things better?

yes, this is what makes you suspect they are bot/trolls.

If they know they need a revolution, then actually revolt - with fucking petardes and guillotines; that type of shit. If they're not ready to do that, they may as well kick trump in the balls first whilst they muster the wherewithal.

"Voting thrd party because voting is broken?! " wtf?

Same if they think abstentionism positively impacts their chances of revolution.

As long as we have Democrats like Kamala, we will have Republicans like Trump.

Ah, this makes sense, since Trump didn't appear before Harris did. Smart thing to say.

If you insist!

Edit: sandbox this not directed at you. Just clarifying.

Last I checked no one has suggested supporting trump instead. Seek help you've been seeing things that are not real.

To everyone else show up, vote with your heart. I live in a safe state, i still voted down ballot for the majority of my reps. If you're in a similar situation please consider doing the same and contacting your reps and letting them know why. Dont let Kamala and the dnc force you into supporting a genocide its not worth it.

If you're in a swing state do what you need to do to protect your local community in whatever way you can. Yes, including supporting harris if thats what it'll take, despite shitty of a candidate she is¹. I promise you people like myself are not upset with people supporting kamala. I have no interest in shaming you for voting.

But if you think trying to stop a genocide is unreasonable, well... You're the problem, and i will happily call you out for your disgusting bullshit.

¹ Kamala has remained uncommited to labor. (No policies for pto,sick leave, healthcare reform, workers rights.

Kamala has remained uncommited to keeping khan the best head of the FTC we've seen in my life. See related mentions about labor they're coupled.

Kamala has done more to harm the muslim community than just supporting a genocide shes actively suppressed them in our own country, if she's willing to throw one minority group under the bus shes willing to throw others.

You're not trying to plant a tree, you're trying to burn down the forest.

What is the one issue?

Do you have a plan to radicalize enough people to topple the current regime by election day?

Or is your plan to tell me that I shouldn't care that Trump is openly allied with people who want to commit genocide against queer people like me? Do you have a plan for your queer friends if he wins? Would you have me see their deaths as permissible if he wins? Or inevitable? Is your message of radicalization "you might die but it's fine because the other government that wouldn't have killed you was also fascist"?

😂 imagine thinking not supporting a genocide is an unreasonable demand. Say the quiet part out loud. Phew.

Seek help child. You certainly need it.

You'd vote for both of them? That wouldn't work out well in your favor, they'd just throw the ballot out.

Pot, kettle, etc

-signed a reluctant Harris voter

Who are you to believe you speak for all brown people

How ignorant are you of people with Stockholm syndrome who have collaborated with their tormentors?

Jewish collaboration with Nazi Germany https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_collaboration_with_Nazi_Germany

Regardless of the result, he'll say the numbers are fake anyway.

Cornell West then, idk.

That's the thing, if the democrat's only rivals are on their right, the only voters they need to court are the moderate right wing, they have no incentive to make any concession to the left, which they can take for granted.

And you think Harris is more for Palestine than de la Cruz?

May 29 (2020)

At 12:53 a.m., more than an hour after the state guard posted about the deployment, Trump tweets: “I can’t stand back & watch this happen to a great American City, Minneapolis. A total lack of leadership. Either the very weak Radical Left Mayor, Jacob Frey, get his act together and bring the City under control, or I will send in the National Guard & get the job done right.”

By that point, Walz had already activated the guard.

About seven hours later, Trump’s then-White House Twitter account quotes him saying: “These THUGS are dishonoring the memory of George Floyd, and I won’t let that happen. Just spoke to Governor Tim Walz and told him that the Military is with him all the way. Any difficulty and we will assume control but, when the looting starts, the shooting starts. Thank you!”

https://www.factcheck.org/2024/08/how-walz-responded-to-riots-in-minnesota-after-the-death-of-george-floyd/

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Please google all of the pro Palestinian protests and its outcome. All the protestors were arrested.