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They actually think this is an own. They think everyone else is as xenophobic as they are
They actually think this is an own. They think everyone else is as xenophobic as they are
Like half of us wish we could live in China
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"and yet they never seem to write their own neoliberal software", see i can do it too, it's real easy
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there's reddit for the libs and piefed for the ultralibs
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Piefed
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Downgrading from Rust to Python and then implementing built-in score manipulation tools on top is exactly what I expect from freedom-and-efficiency-loving neolib "entrepreneurs". If Lemmy didn't exist as competition they'd probably be looking into turning the project into a profitable endeavor as well.
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Yeah Piefed is that software precisely.
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I mean, China has one of the lowest immigration rates in the world, with what is practically near impossible conditions for immigration for foreigners, so it's not exactly because people don't want to...
That's like saying people don't want to drink water in a water-scarce area. Like sure, it's definitely because of a lack of want rather than a lack of access
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it's very easy to get a working visa there esp for white people and people with teaching certification
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Why do I need to live in Russia if I express doubts about the State “Remember the Gulf of Tonkin and Iraqi WMDs” Department’s narrative about the extremely resource rich and geopolitically significant Chinese province of Xinjiang?
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My best translation is "This is what the government wants; play along with their stories and just be loyal"
These same people have fun making fun of hypocritical Trump supporters who, when faced with the very same arguments against Trump that they make against others, don't stick to the principles they pretended to have; they are exactly as bad as hypocritical Trump supporters, but they just want to be blindly loyal to the country.
North Korea for example has been no threat to ANYONE; they've cooked up stories about Iran funding terrorists and Venezuela possibly moving drugs to America (they aren't), but there's nothing to say about North Korea and for a while there people were still genuinely terrified that the red dawn remake was about to happen any day now. I recall something a lady once said that (Times?) magazine ran a poll to see how many people believed Iraq was involved in 9/11 and it was like 60-70% of the population even though there was zero evidence.
What they mean is always just "Be loyal, play along"
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Pretty sure many of us would be down to immigrate to China.
Mandarin is fuckin hard though.
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I remember trying to learn Japanese and when the Kanji came out I noped out of there immediately, and I mention this because if I recall correctly, Kanji itself was originally Chinese which I think means the Chinese language is written in similar or exactly the same style and like just NOPE. I remember for instance one symbol that's supposed to be for tree, and like two of them next to each other means forest, and that much of the language is written in this style where you're supposed to get a sense out of what the word is trying to say, or something to that effect.
Japanese at least has Hiragana and Katakana; I am NOT going to try to learn mandarin unless it's simply spoken mandarin and not written (although that said, my pronunciation of Chinese syllables is terrible; a Singaporean guy who tried to teach me the difference between su, su, su and su just couldn't transmit the differences between; for instance su means four, while su means death, but su instead means....corner or something? Don't even ask me what su stands for, I can't remember that one!)
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I have my kid in Mandarin lessons twice per week. So, when the time comes, she can request White Monster Energy Drinks on my behalf.
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Because the point of being a communist is to break the cycle of pain and grief at home? Hello?
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This talking point annoys me so much.
You can't just divide the world into: A country For Albanians, A country for American, A country for Communists, A country for Trans people, A country for Cis people and so on. You can't just make borders like that and sort people into them. It has never worked.
Yet often times when I mention issues with being trans f.ex the first thing libs tell me is: "Okay you should move."
Cool, are you sponsoring me? Ofc they aren't gonna sponsor me
Ofc I'd move somewhere it's better for me. People should move to escape dangers, if they can. Not all of us can move tho' and moving isn't gonna solve the issue either. Especially when it comes to implementing communism. There is no secret communist country that's gonna start liberation missions, despite what some DPRK stan accounts might tell you. Real communism can't even be implemented without proletarians all around the world joining hands, so no matter where you go it's gonna be a battle.-
Isn't that whole division thing a bedrock of conservative thought? "Everyone has their place" taken to the point where, to them, it logically makes sense that everyone should be neatly sorted into different countries and we'll all magically live better loves when we have our own ethno states to stay in.
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Yeah that is one of the core tenants and it's a bedrock of fascism. Along with the state.
In the words of Mussolini: "Fascism ... affirms the immutable, beneficial, and fruitful inequality of mankind..."
The culmination of conservative thought is a strong independent State that shepherds it's people, only allowing them to move where they need to.
"Those who do not move cannot feel their chains." But the fascist enjoys being chained to the state. It's a necessity.
Also this is why Social-Democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism. Because it pretends that the state is the servant and people are the master, flip that and you get regular fascism.
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It may not be THE basis of conservative thought, but its certainly a pillar.
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Even if you do move, the next thing they’ll say is “why did you move here? You should stay and fix things where you came from”.
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My personal conspiracy is that Goat is a zionist agent that pushes an anti-commie pipeline. And this was him on reddit. (Don't ask how I found the post)
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Insane how people use nearly identical usernames on different sites
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The origin of the phrase "putting out a fleece" is a reference to the story of Gideon meaning to look for a sign from God before undertaking some action or carrying out some plan. wiki
Invariably, our hearts and minds have their agenda. We want what we want when we want it. We can flip the Bible until we find the answer we want. We can make it our fleece. source
Okay okay, I stop now.
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The reeducation camps won't be big enough.
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A lot of people these days hear "communism" and think of Bernie Sanders pushing Medicare for all and dealing with the 1%, but communism in Eastern Europe in the postwar period was something entirely different. It was starvation, the secret police, paranoia, cruelty, and Kafkaesque living. The collapse of a government, even a badly run, frightening government, means increasing chaos.
Kafkaesque lol. Yeah, and everything was in black and white, and the sun never shone.
Putin is the leader of another former communist state, one much more powerful and that is still known in 2018 for poisoning former citizens it decides it doesn't like.
The Skripal affair has been debunked; the story never even made sense.
He is known for cracking down on his critics using the power of the state and jailing his political opponents.
Why would Putin, a head of state with a 70%+ approval rating according to polls conducted by Western NGOs, need to jail a political opponent like Navalny who had 1% approval? Maybe it had more to do with the fact that he was literally caught on video being paid millions of dollars by MI6 to start a color revolution in Russia.
Before the USSR fell apart, he was in the KGB for 16 years.
He's proof that although terrifying communist regimes may fall, the people who personify evil inside those regimes live on and can continue to operate with nearly unchecked power.
Putin is living proof that people live past the age of 39!
He does not control the whole Duma any more than Trump, Starmer, or Macron control their legislative bodies, numbnuts. One of the reasons that Putin intervened in the Ukraine civil war in 2022 was because he was receiving too much criticism for being soft on NATO. I'm so tired of this stereotype that every US rival is controlled by a supervillain with unlimited supernatural power.
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I'm actually considering trying to move to China to escape the shitstorm that is sure to hit Europe as the economies goes to even more shit than it's in now. The main problems are getting the money to do it and checking the strict conditions you have to fulfill before you can get anything remotely close to permanent residency.
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praising a thing that never happened and doesn't exist
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Pay for my ticket and golden visa then. I'll gladly leave this shithole.
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I mean I’ve literally talked about wanting to live in China before lol
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Russia seems like a really bad place to live and once again people think analyzing a conflict is the same as being completely aligned with one of the powers
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Agreed.
I don't think Russia is it the hell it's depicted as by racist liberals, but it has a lot of problems to be sure (certainly more than China in their current forms). I'd have to visit to know precisely how "mid" or "meh" it is.
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ive been to russia before, its pretty cheap to visit. i visited one of my queer friends in st petersburg and did some train trips to moscow. everything rural is dogshit and very similar to america (re: small town with 4 way stop and annoying car infrastructure), and moscow and st petersburg are the only areas really worth visiting imo. maybe vladivostok would be cool to visit but its obviously really out of the way. moscow and st petersburg have some pretty severe infrastructure issues that many other european cities have already addressed (oh boy i have to cross an 8 lane high speed highway to go to the market! or to get to a major train station!), prague is kinda a paradise in comparison. the soviet union would have handled all of this better, the infrastructure is all running on fumes from the soviet era
out of the two i preferred st petersburg far more, mostly cause the queer scene seemed a lot better. this was all before the war and covid so im sure some things have changed.
heres a pic of one of the streets in question lol
st peterburg imo is nicer because they have a lot of nice little rivers and canals going through the city that are nice to walk or ride along, moscow has a ring forest that is very nice but idk i preferred the canals. just in general russia feels very america-coded and european-lite to me not the greatest visit. i do think the medium sized cities not rural towns are likely better than the usa, but i only stretched my legs at one during my train to moscow. the long train ride was kinda fun tho i talked to a lot of people, very communal atmosphere
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And yet they never want to move to China or Russia
If they did you'd switch to calling them Russian or Chinese shills
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Or paid operatives
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It’s the same energy as, "if you don’t love America, get out."
It’s dumb, and has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
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Ironically the people crying "if you don't love America, get out" themselves complain about the country and aren't moving out
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If I spoke mandarin fluently and if it'd be easy to get family there I'd consider it. Moving countries isn't something you can do lightly it's a giant pain to do
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Oh, so you didn't just immediately pick up your life and belongings, get a green card, pin down a job, and move there right after I dared you to? You just proved my point.
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And yet they never seem to want to move to china or russia
Yeah because I'm going to uproot and re-plan my entire fucking life because of internet arguments. Internet arguments with some ignoramus buffoon.
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Cost of living seems better for sure, at least what I've seen on tik tok in regards to rent.
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Also food.
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Haven't watched any grocery hauls on rednote yet but all the more reason to redownload it and I'm sure it's crazy compared to us grocery shopping where $40 is lucky to cover bottom the cart
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Don't threaten me with a good time!
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Reasons to not move to Russia or China:
-It's expensive
-Learning to speak a new language day-to-day can be very difficult, especially something like Chinese which is very different from English
-You have to effectively reorient your entire life around living in a new place where you don't know anyone or know the culture
-Russia, despite what many western liberals think, is not socialist.
-People may want to improve the place their from
-People may be attached to the place their from and not want to abandon it
To name a few; also not saying moving to Russia or China is a bad idea, just stating why it's not an obvious thing everyone does. Also imagine if a bunch of people did start moving and you had liberal crying about it hurting the economy.
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Also imagine if a bunch of people did start moving and you had liberal crying about it hurting the economy.
Or they would just call tankies "traitors" because they moved overseas and dismiss their arguments that way.
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"Heh, those tankies in their echo chamber believe stupid and inconsistent things that make them much worse and stupidier than we are. Don't go over there to check what they actually say and believe though, because uhh...it'd be a waste of time, I've already told you all about them so you should just listen to me and not think for yourself, unless you want to be like those authoritarian tankies!"
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Ergo decedo 🤓👆
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