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No forensics are needed because the hospital was not hit by anyone. That is just a further lie.
There was footage the next day taken by a Gazan of the hospital showing it unscathed except for a small crater in the carpark. There were shattered windows in a nearby chapel. Unfortunately there were people camped in the carpark so about 20 people died (not 500 as Hamas lied).
Notice that Hamas didn't even release any footage of any damaged building let alone AlAhli hospital. They didn't even have to try because media around the world lapped it up without question.
There was also footage of the rocket barrage by the PIJ streamed live by Al Jazeera which showed one of the rockets boomeranging and a citizen's footage showing similar closer by.
I was outraged by the recent double tap of the hospital looking rescuers. Even if there was a Hamas base there it is inexcusable.
Apparently Hamas documents have been found last week showing their basing themselves in hospitals.
I can back up the above but I doubt people in this thread are interested in such messy departure from any narrative which isn't black and white.
That is so much misinformation I am not going to bother responding. Everything you typed is a lie. Go look up the Forensic Architecture report.
Why are you using zio? That's a term coined by David Duke to refer to jews. Where'd you learn that?
Some antisemitic guy referred to Jews as Zionists? Wow that is crazy.
Why are you protecting Zionists on your community who advocate for genocide? He is admitting it himself.
"Zio" is a term coined by David Duke long before this current conflict, and instead of saying 'Oh, my bad, I won't use Zio,' you refer to him as just some antisemitic guy, he's the leader of the KKK.
Why are you defending David Duke and calling him just some guy? And more importantly, will you admit that you will no longer use Zio now that you know the origins of the word?
Source?
The latest chapter in the Chicago Dyke March controversy unfolded late last week after the group walked back its use of the term “Zio,” a pejorative brought into prominence by former KKK Grand Wizard David Duke and often deployed by white supremacists.
You need to stop using it
You really think it took the KKK to abbreviate the word Zionist which has existed for centuries?
It took me 2 months after learning the term. And not from "David Duke".
Will you stop using it now that you know the origins of the word? You can use zionist, whatever, but don't use zio
Forward is a Zionist propaganda website. They are not a source. These sites write things like "the Palestinians convinced Hitler to throw Jews into the ovens."
The term "ZioNazi" was already used in the 90s. Would you prefer that one?
I don't want a user in my community who is adamant about using the exact same term that David Duke uses and wishes to argue about its usage. And the whole handwaving David Duke and the KKK is pretty alarming too. You can use zionist or zionazi or whatever, but your insistence on using specifically "zio," even after showing evidence of its terminology, is not a good look.
If we can't use "degenerate," we certainly cannot allow people who use "zio"
I advocate for genocide? This is the go-to for ProPals who refuse intellectual discussion the same way as the Jews who accuse any criticism of Israel as "anti-Semitism".
Did you not just advocate for a Jewish ethnostate?
Yes. In the current boundaries and to get out of the WB and eventually out of Gaza (like they did before Oct 7).
Do you resent the current small Jewish ethno-state amongst the many larger Muslim ethno-states in the Middle East?
One which is 20% Arab in fact and gives Arabs full citizenship. I understand Jews in Israel not wanting to be outnumbered in a single state solution because Hamas want Jews eliminated from the Levant.
Which Muslim ethnostate? Who bombed the ancient churches in Gaza?
Which country (other than Israel) in the Middle East is not a Muslim Ethno-state?
Do you resent the current small Jewish ethno-state amongst the many larger Muslim ethno-states in the Middle East?
None of them.
Every single Middle Eastern country grants the right to national self-determination to Muslim and non-Muslim citizens.
Except Israel who grants it exclusively to Jews.
They are majority Muslim countries which have Sharia law. That makes them an ethno-state.
Seems you cited a criterion none of those countries have been called on to fulfill. Have they put it in writing even or did you invent it? Which of those countries actually granted it to a non-Muslim citizenry? In fact which country even allowed a Shia-Sunni split?
There may have been a 2 state solution in Israel if Arabs were not obsessed with wiping out Jews. Now it won't happen for generations because of Oct 7.
Some antisemitic guy referred to Jews as Zionists? Wow that is crazy.
I think the point was that it was a KKK Nazi who coined "Zio" and not many people know the term apart from Nazis. News to me but I don't mind whatever you are because you have been civil enough so far.
I am a Zionist though because AFAIK it merely means support for a Jewish ethno-state in the Levant (which most ProPals are against).
I don't like the expansionism into the West Bank or the current right wing government but this is all irrelevant to this thread.
There are no photos in the report of hospital building damage which is what was claimed by Hamas.
AFAIK There is also no news story from that day displaying damage to Al Ahli hospital either.
Hamas say 471 people were killed and 342 injured. There is no way to fit that many in that car park. Here is a video by a Gazan the morning after.
The Forensic Architecture report has been debunked.
r/Destiny
Say no more.
Can you go over the Al Ahli hospital explosion?
Yes, the person said that Destiny, who sexted a age 16 or 17 year old, is not a pedophile, but an ephebophile.
Fun fact, there is no difference.
What about countries where the age of consent is 16? You'll find most of the world decides 16 is the minimum age.
Regardless, go over the Al Ahli Hospital explosion.
It used to be 7 in the UK 200 years ago.
Israel bombed a hospital and Hamas invited journalists to investigate and Israel blocked them.
Then Israel said it was not them and they would never bomb a hospital. That was around 20 hospitals ago and bombing a hospital because they saw journalists.
Neither Israel nor Hamas ever bombed the Al Ahli Hospital. It was determined to be a malfunctioning PIJ rocket
It was determined it was Israel. And it is always Israel.
That's verifiably false
What does the sub matter? Look at the contents of that post.
Never heard of Destiny before. I just found that thread with Google but you got me curious.
he has promoted the idea that college campuses should have students who have diverse opinions in order to reduce polarization.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destiny_%28streamer%29
Thanks. I may join the sub now.
He made a stupid comment during the George Floyd protests though. Am trying to find out if he recanted.
Destiny is also a notorious sex offender and pedophile.
He isn't a pedo. He says a 23yo with a 16yo isn't pedophilia. Which is technically true: it is ephebophilia. He seems to have been baiting outrage.
https://old.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/11uvamp/i_dont_understand_the_value_in_destinys/
He hasn't been convicted of sexual abuse AFAIK but he certainly does seem dodgy on that front...
https://www.reddit.com/r/youtubedrama/comments/1h6nvdj/why_is_nobody_concerned_about_the_streamer/
That sub should rename itself to distance itself from such behavior. Don't think I want to add to its karma by joining or participating. So thanks for the warning.
Still doesn't invalidate the debunking of that report though.
He isn’t a pedo. He says a 23yo with a 16yo isn’t pedophilia. Which is technically true: it is ephebophilia. He seems to have been baiting outrage.
"No no, I'm not a pedo, to prove it, I looked pedophilia in a dictionary! It's actually ephebophilia! ...You don't care that I used a new word? Well, I was just doing it as a joke! It's your fault you'd think I would molest a minor!"
When someone rapes a minor as a joke, someone still raped a minor.
Please don't call other users pedophiles or imply they molest minors
Edited from "you" to "someone"
appreciate it, but it's more like you're saying sqgl is a pedo instead of destiny
adding something like "destiny be like:" or some generic shit like that will make it clearer
I gave you a specific example. 23yo with 18yo... consensually.
If you think that is pedophilia or rape then you are out of step with the law and with cultural norms.