Find Something You Love as Much as Gavin Newsom Loves Having Anti-Trans Pundits on His Podcast
Find Something You Love as Much as Gavin Newsom Loves Having Anti-Trans Pundits on His Podcast
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You guys are mad at him but he is taking the same stance that the majority of people have on it.
Whether or not he actually believes that stance only he would know, but I would suspect that like many other people who are now "flipping" on the trans athletes these people probably didn't support them being in women's sports, but felt compelled to say they did because of the backlash they were worried about getting.
Now that people are noticing that the general public actually doesn't want this they are either playing into to popular stance to take or they are just feeling safe to actually express their opinions on the matter authentically.
Trans lives matter. The public opinion will shift as it has throughout history. Trans people aren't going to go away.
Yes but it has not shifted yet, and the backlash is massive. So until public opinion shifts this is the stance to take in order to win. Reminder that Obama ran opposing gay marriage.
The reality is that in a democracy, minorities need to win their rights by convincing the majority that they deserve them. As awful as that sounds, it’s the reality. So the trans movement still has a long fight ahead.
What backlash? All I see is Republicans making a mountain out of a molehill.
And the democrats stay silent which is an admission of their support. The republicans will keep twisting this knife like they always do with cultural issues ,and it will keep winning them points unless democrats come out and speak plainly against these issues or at least take the most neutral of stances. People dislike it so much they they’d rather vote for Trump or not at all than support trans women in sports or transitioning minors. This is the line that a lot of “common sense” liberals won’t cross and they so happen to be the kind of voters that win elections. I’m sorry to say but the trans community will need to keep fighting for at least a decade or two more I think.
Nobody said they didn't matter?
Not wanting trans women to compete against biological women in sports does not mean people want them to "go away". It means they aren't the same as biological women and people are tired of you guys pretending that they are.
When you look people in the eyes and tell them that a biological man that now identifies as a woman can actually get pregnant (despite lacking the biological requirements to do so) you are asking them to ignore reality and science which most people simply aren't willing to do.
Ozma has attached an article you really need to read about the myths. But also, why are you bringing up trans women being able to get pregnant? Is that what you define as a biological woman? Because there are plenty of cis women who aren't able to get pregnant. No one is saying trans women can get pregnant, until we have womb transplants that is. But right now? No one says trans women can get pregnant. But we do say that after hormones the differences between cis women and trans women really isn't a big difference besides born with equipment.
Also your insistence with using "biological" instead of cis while still saying that you don't think trans women should disappear really isn't helping your case. Just use cis, what's wrong with that? The term biological is being used by the right to invalidate trans women being women at all, cis is what they are. Just use that word.
Linguistic and logical gymnastics are not convincing. Just because you can do cartwheels around the definition of a woman doesn’t mean that you are correct and it just makes you much less likely to convince someone who is not convinced because it comes off as a bad faith argument or a straw man . Trans women are not the same as women that are born women. If you begin the conversation from there then you might be able to win more support from the so called “everyday American”. If you can’t then nothing will change.
No centrist cares. They have an excuse for breaking solidarity with a vulnerable minority.
I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to 'order' than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice [...]
That was Martin Luther King Jr. talking about civil rights. It rings just as true today for trans people.
If you think that "trans athletes" is a legitimate political concern, then you're a dummy at best and a fascist at worst. No surprise it's a major issue in the heart of empire.
Well it is a political concern in the sense that it's realists and delusionals coming to a point where they can't co-exist anymore.
You're trying to convince people seahorses can actually fly despite everyone clearly being able to see that they cannot.
You have delusion going up against objective facts and you're trying to get everyone on board with the delusion which will never work.
99% of people do not give a shit if someone wants to identify as trans as long as they are an adult and they aren't trying to enter into spaces that belong to the biological gender they are now identifying as.
Where you lose people is when you involve children and when you try to make the argument that trans people are exactly the same as their bilogical mirrors. Everyone knows they are not. It is lunacy to try and pretend they are.
I will happily call them by their prefer name/gender and I will do my best to use neutral terms when I remember, but don't vilify people for making honest mistakes. Long before the whole transgender topic really blew up I remember accidentally mis gendering people on the phone a few times because I thought they sounded masculine or feminine. There was no ill intent and they didn't take it as such. They simply corrected me and I apologized and we moved on. That same interaction now has been turned into its own genre of rage bait video for some people.
