Canada @lemmy.ca Sunshine (she/her) @lemmy.ca 1d ago

Canada proposes 100% tariffs on Tesla, I have an alternative: open the door to Chinese EVs

electrek.co Canada proposes 100% tariffs on Tesla, I have an alternative: open the door to Chinese EVs

A Canadian candidate for Prime Minister has proposed implementing a 100% tariff on Tesla vehicles in response to US tariffs...

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China isn't our friend. The whole 'make it more financially appealing for the world to not war' is not working. China isn't influencing the world to be decent and at peace. They're Putin's allies and therefore our enemies.
- China can buy our housing to rent it back to us, but we can't buy their EV because other companies won't make as much profit. Great trickle down.
- Yeah China feeling more emboldened to invade Taiwan and talking about wanting to send in troops to gain experience in Ukraine shows they are looking to fill in the power vacuum left by the US and become US 2.0.
  
  More like Russia. 2.0
  
  No, absolutely not like Russia 2.0 The Chinese are taking a completely different approach to the Russians. The fact that people still think the Chinese are stupid is unbelievable...
  
  Tell me more (genuinely)
  
  Without China, Russia would no longer be able to act. The economy etc. would have collapsed completely long ago without China. China therefore has control over Russia and not vice versa. (Even North Korea now has more to say than Putin...) So China is tackling the global battle via cyberwar and economic warfare. It is also a way to overthrow other countries without war and the West is dependent on China. China is not sending its country back a century, but into the future. They are not rushing into a senseless and stupid war, but are waiting until the stupid Russians burn through the capacities worldwide with the Ukraine war. They are also waiting until America splinters completely and possibly takes Europe with it. It is absolutely not comparable with the brainless MeatGrindr bullshit from the Russians.
  
  I'm not saying that China won't start a war, but they won't do it as stupidly as the Russians. China is thinking several years ahead. Just future-oriented.
  
  So apart from nuclear weapons, China is much more dangerous for the West
  
  If that's the case then why are we still trading with China? Why isn't tiktok banned? Russia is being openly punished and rejected but China, apparently so close with them, are not?
  
  I understood that capitalism, despite it's flaws is the way the world has decided to prevent wars. If countries are so intertwined financially it can't be of benefit to either party to war. If China values our business they won't fuck with us. If Chinese companies and parties own interests in our country they won't destroy it or even act against us, as aside from anything else we can sanction them by taking this property without any renumeration.
  
  Because we have democratic laws and, as I said, China is not stupid but acts within the law (apart from cyberwarfare). The results of all this can now be seen with Trump, who is completely destroying democratic values. It is also enough to look at the technological difference between China and Russia. China also produces all the measurement while our measurement is also produced there. Underestimating the Chinese or comparing them with Russia is simply unrealistic.
  
  Let's wait and see the results of Trump policies. In the end, the citizen has the last word when he starts the civil war.
  
  Btw. The tiktok ban showed how loyal the American population is to the Chinese government.
  
  I guess that we consider the risk greater if we shut them out. What did you mean by measurement?
  
  Almost the entire production in all areas is outsourced to China. Russia is only known for oil and its scrap technology.
  
  China can exist without the West (apart from ASML) but the West can no longer exist without China.
  
  I hate the translator + my phone xD
  
  The old American playbook was to ally with some local elites and then use media, secret service and economic support to bring them into power. Military force and hardcore sanctions were a tool used, if that did not work.
  
  Russia prefers to use military force to force other countries into doing what they want.
  
  China seems to work mainly with economic pressure, corruption and secret servcie work to set up favroable local elites. Their media game is not as good as the US, but TikTok is a clear sign that they are working on it. So far hard force is pretty rarer.
  
  To me China looks a lot more like the old US playbook. They know the Russian one is not as good, as they saw European Empires collapse by using it.
  
  Russia does not prefer military force. They do just as much meddling as the USA does and one might even say they do it better.
- They’re Putin’s allies
  
  And America isn't?
  
  Wasn't, until Trumptler got into power.

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