Rising egg prices and high demand are prompting consumers to rent or buy chickens, but experts warn the move may not cut costs
Rising egg prices and high demand are prompting consumers to rent or buy chickens, but experts warn the move may not cut costs
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Why the fuck is no one just cutting eggs out of their diet?
It's not even like they're particularly healthy, if you eat too many you can risk high cholesterol.
Unless you have really strict dietary guidelines this is fucking insanity.
All you have to do is stop buying them and demand will dry up and prices will come back down (to an extent anyway, bird flu is gonna keep it higher than the old norm).
Are people really so egg addicted?? Do people really not understand economics and the nature of supply/demand?
Eggs had a high protein/price ratio which made them an important food for poor people as a meat substitute.
What do you propose they should get instead?
Lentils, chickpeas, black beans, kidney beans, lima beans, edamame, peas...
Americans aren't protein deficient.
So all legumes every day then?
They are a fair alternative nutrient wise but you'd be ignorant to think they where not already in the poor mans basket.
Eggs are distinctly more versatility and require next to zero prep time. Spending time in the kitchen is a luxury a single parents with multiple jobs may not have when trying to make their kids a quick healthy meal before going back on the clock.
I mean, if it means avoiding a deadly pandemic, maybe?
Never considered this in all honesty.
Does a lower egg demand really lower the chance of a deadly pandemic?
The way i understand it famers will continue try to maximize their chicken populations because capitalism. Especially in time of scarcity everyone dreams of being the biggest supplier.
I reason there would be a technical solution in a full on chicken genocide. They can’t spread disease if they are already dead. This would result in no eggs for anyone. But animal welfare advocates may want a word with you.
But even from an animal welfare pov, the way chickens are housed is completely inhumane and the end of this industry would be a net positive and spearhead the availability of much more ethically labproduced chicken.
Nuanced genocide??
This is a very interesting (though messed up) line of thinking. Can you elaborate what you ment specifically?
Once again, Americans aren't protien deficient. There's plenty of cheap, easy to eat stuff that Americans could eat for breakfast instead.
Does a banana for breakfast take prep time? Does an apple? Oh wait, no it doesn't y'all are just fucking addicted to protein and eat way too much of it. Nobody needs to eat that much protein literally every day.
You originally asked for good price/protein ratio to replace eggs and I gave you that.
Do you exercise at all? Recommendation is minimum 0.8g of protein per pound of lean muscle mass. If you’re twig thin and unfit, sure, you don’t need much. For me it means at least 116g of protein daily.
It’s not addiction, it’s tracking my macros and living as healthy a life as possible.
No offense but theres lots of western propaganda coupled protein obsession in your comments. Like the other dude said, you arent protein deficient and neither are Americans, and you most definitely dont need fucking eggs for cheap protein.
Also, YOU DONT NEED THAT MUCH PROTEIN EVERY DAY WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK
It is actually insane how many Americans know fuck all about food but act like they do, yall have been propagandized beyond belief regarding food, protein, and god knows what else.
You're making a mountain out of a molehill, the recommendations are really not that different unless you're severely underweight or overweight. US recommendation is definitely higher, but it's commonly misunderstood because the recommendation is 0.8g of protein per pound of lean body weight (muscle mass), not full weight.
EFSA and the WHO recommend .66g of protein to full body weight, or PRI of .83g per kg full weight, and note that intake of up to double the PRI is acceptable and safe.
Doing the math, my PRI intake would be 74g of protein (and up to double that considered safe), while my US recommendation would be 116. Yes it's more, but not by that much. On average I probably actually take in between 90g and 115g of protein a day, give or take a bit.
Not to mention, with lifestyle related items, I'm fine with my higher intake, and it has nothing to do with being American.
Regarding the exercise, example from today:
As someone who works out frequently both cardio and weightlifting, I want that protein to maintain and grow muscle mass, as this is one of the ways I control my glucose levels and it has a dramatic effect. Exercise is my main way of managing my sugar levels, along with a low dose of metformin XR daily. See:
I'm not a scientist and I always mix up whether it's glycolysis or glycogenesis, but basically, glycogen reuptake to the muscles is good for muscle repair and carrying the glucose out of the bloodstream to more active storage in the muscles is good for me.
And to finalize, I'm not obsessed with eggs either. I have no qualms getting protein from any decent source including:
etc.
Eggs are certainly a part of the diet, but I can work around that if needed.
living as healthy a life as possible.
Says the type 2 diabetic?
This may shock you, but I’ve been managing this since I was 30, got into health and fitness. Now in my 40s and regularly maintain an A1c between 5.5 and 6.2.
I’m healthy and fit. I work out 3-4 times weekly with weights and recently kettlebells, and I have a walking treadmill I use intermittently while working, as well as an Airbike for cardio. I eat healthy and low carb and have curbed the behaviors that triggered my condition and have maintained this over a decade.
Fuck you for judging. I have a life long condition I have to manage. I did not give up on managing it and Diabetes won’t be what kills me.
You're the one who brought up your diabetes man.
You referenced that baked goods need eggs... Yet if you're diabetic, you should be making a crustless/cheeseless quiche... which doesn't really count as a baked good then now does it? Now it's just baked eggs. You've taken out the "baked good" of a quiche (the crust). So either you're eating an unhealthy quiche for your diabetes, or I don't know what you're doing or trying to say.
Like, really, pick a lane.
Like, really, pick a lane.
My lane is “glad I’m not you.” That’s a blessing.
I hope everyone you meet is as pleasant as you are.
Damn, stay mad lmao
Your ignorance was already zipped down and on display but now you really took your pants off.
Egg prices have risen globally. America doesn’t have a monopoly on this problem.
Egg prices have risen globally because of bird flu not demand increases.
The demand has stayed the same, the supply has dropped.
I'm not seeing news about people in India renting chickens just to be able to get their egg fix.
The number of customers dropping by for purchasing meat and and eggs have also gone down by 20%-30% in the last two weeks.
Is this comment where i appear to have expressed ignorance about the existence of basic economic principles in the room with us right now?
Your “solutions” to stop buying eggs in favor of lentils shows an inability to perceive reality outside of your own subjective comfort bubble. But for an American i guess thats not all that atypical.
Nah I just see someone who keeps moving goalposts. First what's a good protein/price ratio, you don't like that answer, then it's "it's not just about Ameirca" in an article specifically about America, and then "but I know how economics works!" despite demand actually dropping in some other countries (in particular a country that is highly vegetarian). Now it's about eggs being a comfort food or something.
Are we done? Were clearly not going to agree on this. I dont mind that, this is context for other people also.
Also, just for context you're literally lecturing a cancer patient (chronic myeloid leukemia) in poverty in the USA who may die because of medicaid cuts for meds that cost $18k a month without insurance. You can check my post history, I've mentioned it many times before. (I have literally flipped out at able bodied idiots who tell me to Luigi myself for them.)
I, for one, have done fine budget-wise without eggs and I eat all those things I mentioned because they are affordable with the protein I need to help manage my disease.
But keep telling me I don't know what I'm talking about when it comes to poverty.
Dietary cholesterol actually has little to do with blood cholesterol levels. It's almost all genetics.
Dietary cholesterol has very little to do with health effects, but you swing too far in the other direction by claiming it's "almost all genetics." Plenty of environmental factors that can affect blood cholesterol (or more relevant to health, VLDL and LDL cholesterol), including diet.
A big motivator behind the banning or restriction of trans fats in most countries is the clear link between trans fat consumption and cardiovascular disease, including a direct causal link to raising LDL (aka "bad cholesterol" and lowering HDL (aka "good cholesterol").
Some moderate physical activity has also been shown to significantly improve things like blood lipid profiles, at least compared to totally sedentary lifestyles.
And genetics can affect how much of an effect these environmental or lifestyle factors actually change blood lipids, and in turn how much those stats correlate or cause actual cardiovascular disease, but diet and exercise are still important for almost everyone regardless of genetics.
Why the fuck is no one just cutting eggs out of their diet?
All you have to do is stop buying them and demand will dry up and prices will come back down
You're not wrong, but on the other hand, plain eggs are goddamn delicious. Not like there's some kind of soy-based equivalent experience.
And I'm sure that people will cut them out of their diet -- the price will keep going up until the amount of demand at that price matches the number of eggs available. And there is some price where any given person will do that.
Hasn't hit that point for me yet, though. I love my eggs.
Unless you have really strict dietary guidelines this is fucking insanity.
I mean, didn’t you just answer your own question? T2 diabetic here with petty strict dietary guidelines, and eggs are a staple in my diet.
Even disregarding that, I can only think of a few baking recipes that require zero eggs. Most baked goods require eggs, or at minimum egg wash.
Eggs are also a good source of protein at a relatively low caloric intake. And until recently we’re much more affordable than other protein sources. You could get 5 dozen at Sam’s Club for like $10.
For things like cake, there's a lot of options you can use to replace eggs.
Further, things like brioche which require them aren't really a need. When people talk about "Let them eat cake" it was actually closer to "Let them eat brioche." If you can't live without brioche, you've got bigger problems.
Standard bread does not need eggs.
You mentioned cake and bread. I’m talking low carb options. Quiche and things of that nature. Again, I’m a T2 diabetic. I’m sure as hell not eating cakes.
Not to enter into this argument but there are very delicious quiches that are vegan (use a scrambled tofu instead of egg).
Nothing wrong with that, tofu is great. Especially fried. 🤤
Unfortunately I’ve tried going that route and for a good six months I mostly ate beans and stews and more vegetarian/vegan friendly meals with less or no meat as an experiment and all that happened was lower energy levels, regular exhaustion, the need to supplement more vitamins than I already do, and my glucose levels spiking higher and more frequently. Wasn’t good for me (though tofu is still great, IMO).
I can only think of a few baking recipes that require zero eggs. Most baked goods require eggs
When I think baking, I think cakes and bread, not.... quiche (like no shit a quiche needs eggs). You said "most baked goods," not "most baked goods a T2 diabetic can eat." I'd say cake and bread fall under "most baked goods."
a wild vegan appears!
Back off my baked goods.
Vegan used Don't Buy Animal Products or Byproducts.
It's actually pretty effective (at reducing demand for meat).
It’s actually pretty effective (at reducing demand for meat).
what makes you think that?
Stop abusing chickens?
Nah
You can ask that very question about fast food. Something that's incredibly unhealthy, but people are fighting hard for cheap rates.
