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Republicans will use anything to generate outrage and distract from the constant war they wage on the working class
- The biggest winners of this US elections are the corporations
  
  we'll see. Media companies, gas companies and private prisons for sure win here, other corporations may suffer if they enact most of these policies:
  Invading cities with the US military will destroy real estate markets. My guess is this is a bluff.
  Rounding up immigrants (lets not pretend they'll be checking documents) will destroy agricultural corps and one of the US' largest exports
  Tariffs will drastically damage consumer spending and costs for electronics (which will indirectly hike data center costs).
  Tax cuts will radically increase inflation again.
  
  I know it's not a very hip position right now but I think the incoming administration will turn out to be mostly hype. They'll get bogged down trying to get the blue states to comply with some insane piece of legislation on something with no federal jurisdiction, and blame their failure to do anything on that.
  
  I'm sorry, but that sounds like copium to me. Why would this fascist authoritarian regime be less successful than all of the other big fascist authoritarian regimes in history? They don't care about the law.
  
  They already had to drop Gaetz as a nominee. Likely because too many R senators said nah.
  While I’m not going to say this will happen with all the other crazy proposals. If some Copium helps us get through the next 2 years minimum, and we can stay in the fight, maybe we can hold on to this place.
  Even fentanyl works on pain for a while, let’s just hope the country isn’t in hospice yet.
  
  I instinctively downvoted this because 'copium' is one of those load words that carries distain without engagement. Why? Because they usually are unsuccessful. They usually fizzle out. Some authoritarian regimes achieve weight and have a war, but that's not always the case. UKs govt was borderline insane for, like, 8 years and that's kinda mellowed now. France has had its flirtations, but it never really stuck. And ultimately I'm an optimist. And the word 'copium' is just short hand for 'optimists are naive and wrong' which... feels unwarranted to me
  
  I'm sorry, but I feel that optimism, in this case, is both naïve and wrong.
  That is not a word I generally throw freely around.
  
  Yeah well fair play. I think you're cynical, wrong, and actively increasing the probability of your unwanted outcome coming to pass by your language, so I guess we both just very strongly disagree with each other. But at least we can do it politely so at least there's some hope.
  
  I am, without a doubt, cynical. I will happily accept that label. And I hope for everyone's sake that I am wrong.
  
  I mean they have the presidency, the house, the Senate, and the supreme court, gonna be difficult to lay the blame.
  
  They had the same situation the first two years of Trump's first presidency. The blame did no good.
  Mostly what saved us before was the incompetence, and that's already rearing its head again. Stupid thing to rely upon, though.
  
  Fair point
  
  I'm thinking similarly and that the Democrats will use the Senate filibuster to block as many things as they can. Of course, conservatives may end up changing the filibuster and ram through all their terrible policies, then they'd only have until the midterms to pass all the crazy stuff they want to pass. Unless they figure out an illegitimate way to stay in power and go full fascist authoritarian on us. No matter what, the next few years are gonna be terrible.
  
  Rounding up immigrants (lets not pretend they’ll be checking documents) will destroy agricultural corps and one of the US’ largest exports
  Not if they take advantage of private prison structures in which prisoners are already paid like 0.15 cents to do agricultural labor in places like georgia.
  The rest of this shit is maybe hype depending on the level at which it actually ends up hurting corporations. Elon's part of the circle because he wants the tariffs because he can't compete with BYD in any market they've been competing in, and he wants to foreclose things like the EV tax credits so nobody else can come up and usurp his position at the top of the market. I'm sure there are plenty of other tariffs that american corporations would be in favor of. The domestic US auto industry basically only exists in the form it does, influencing infrastructure and tons of other shit, because of the chicken tax, which was some random protectionist legislation in the 60's.
  Tax cuts will increase inflation for the bottom class, and cost of living, and probably every other metric, but nobody gives a fuck about that.
  And I'm not sure to what degree the real estate market will be affected by domestic US military interventionism seeing as how we've already had a couple high profile marches and protests over the last 20 years that have had pretty outsized police and national guard responses, and the real estate market has done nothing but go up basically. Both up in value, and upwards into the hands of mass property management corporations and landlords.
  I know everyone's trying to stay optimistic about the sort of, incompetence of the trump regime, and the degree to which this is all just hype and drivel meant to drive the turnout of his base. I'm sure plenty of it is hype, but I'm also sure plenty of it isn't. He still ended up appointing those supreme court justices, which has already fucked over an incredibly large proportion of stuff, and will probably fuck over everything for the next couple decades, since nobody's gonna have enough of a spine to even threaten packing the court.
  
  Regardless of party! Because we’re such a great country full of decadence that we have not one but two pro capitalist pro imperialism pro forever war parties!
  
  "The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them."
  
  Yeah that was the quote I was trying to go for but couldn’t quite remember
  
  I had to look it up...knew what you were thinking though!

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