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Even Bernie didn't vote third party when it counted.

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I promise you I didn’t.
I don’t want to support republican or democrat policies.
Voting for a candidate who is running at the head of either of those parties tickets would be supporting their policies and platforms.
So no, that wouldn’t work.
Don’t worry, I’m gonna vote party for socialism and liberation wherever I can on the ballot too and my distaste for the two major parties softens the more localized the race is, both because the outcomes at stake are unique and the candidates are less doctrinaire.
But no, I’m not gonna vote for a democrat or republican for president but then put the party for socialism and liberation in downticket.
E: wait a minute, if you really thought the down ballot races were what mattered wouldn’t you be positing that I vote democrat at the local level?
What gives? Which one matters, president or everything underneath it?
- But that isn’t building a party.
  That’s like building a skyscraper by putting together the top floor first.
  
  I just told you explicitly that I’m going to vote for party for socialism and liberation in every race they’re running a candidate in.
  Wouldn’t wouldn’t not voting for their presidential candidate be like not putting a roof on your skyscraper?
  And I don’t fault you for not catching my edit, but what’s the deal with claiming that the non presidential stuff is what really matters? If that’s true then why do you care who I cast a ballot for in the presidential race?
  
  I already responded to that, you edited your comment after I replied.
  
  I just saw, no harm meant by it :)
- To address your edit, both the republican and democrat parties are already built.
  Have been for a couple years.
  
  As I said above, I have no interest in supporting republican or democrat policies. The existence and age of genocidal options doesn’t change my aversion to them.
  
  Again, you’re skipping the question and throwing out meaningless catchphrases.
  Why would I want to build parties that are already built when my goal is to topple the existing ones and replace them with ones that are younger and hungrier for change?
  Farting in the wind by voting a third party presidential candidate isn’t going to do that.
  
  I’m not quite sure what you’re trying to say here but i directly answered why I wouldn’t vote for a democrat at the top of the ticket. Because I don’t support their policy positions.
  What are the meaningless catchphrases?
  What did you mean by your sentence in the middle there about building parties? I read it a few different times but couldn’t tell what you were trying to say.
  As I said before, way up at the top of our replies, there are real effects that come from voting for a third party candidate, although I appreciate the phrasing given out usernames.
  
  Voting third party down ballot builds third parties.
  Democrats and Republicans have already built their parties so why would you need to help build them?
  Voting for a presidential candidate is a choice, Trump or Harris directly or indirectly.
  Voting down ballot is voting for change.
  Please limit the amount of questions per comment, it’s hard to keep it all straight and feels like gish galloping.
  
  I don’t know what Gish galloping is. Would you prefer I hit you with three comments to something you write in order to ask three questions?
  Voting for a third party for president also builds that third party and is voting for change as well. I find that pretty hard to refute considering it’s literally measurable.
  I will not vote for trump or Harris.
  I dont intend to help build democrat or republican parties.

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