Far left intellectualism
Far left intellectualism
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In the above comment, we see the following items directly out of the alt-right playbook:
- Never play defense (doesn't provide backing for their statement, because they can't, and instead just tries something else)
- Control the conversation (spins things and tries to change the subject)
- Ship of Theseus (changes fundamental things about their argument without admitting it)
Why is @cowbee@lemmy.ml using the alt-right playbook for their online argumentation? I'll leave that up to the reader.
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I played defense, I never changed the subject, and never changed the fundamentals of the argument. You made the baseless claim that Trump would be far worse for the Palestinian people, while Biden has given Israel everything and then some, without backing it up. You can't actually answer my point so you slander me as alt-right despite advocating for Marxism.
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Ooh we can add the death of a euphemism and putting words into the mouths of others (a subset of controlling the conversation) to that!
Advocating for actions that will help fascists take power isn't advocating for Marxism. It's advocating for fascism, regardless of how much faux-Marxist language one puts around it.
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You've advocated for voting for fascism, I have explained that revolution is necessary. Pretty simple!
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Putting words into my mouth doesn't make them true, no matter how many times you do so.
Revolution or not isn't even a question here. There's concept of a revolution contained within the American ballot box in 2024 is simply unfeasible. The actions you're advocating help the fascists. So far you have provided absolutely nothing even remotely resembling a coherent response to that. You have, however, continued to use the exact same talking points that right-wing bad-faith actors use on leftists and left-sympathetic liberals to manipulate them into doing things that are against the interests of leftism. Please stop doing that and instead focus on having a discussion in good faith.
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They provided good points that you refuse to refute on nothing more than the grounds that you've deemed them antithetical to your own interests. That's the right wing playbook, dude. Spewing out debate club buzzwords is not an argument.
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Please provide the specific points they've made, in neutral language
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Sure, restore the post and I'll be more than happy to copy and paste it for you.
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Restore what post?
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I mean, for starters this argument states as fact a number of points that are questionable. Sure, I'll grant the US holds Israel up as a strategic point in the Middle East. We do the same around the world and so do other nations in support of the same. Russia did/does the same thing with Cuba, for instance.
The rest of the argument about petrodollars, economics, one-state solutions, and IMF loans is conspiracy theory and conjecture masqueraded as fact. One book about it doesn't make it true. It's not worth disproving because the poster is gish-galloping garbage.
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Uhh I'm not a mod here.
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😂 You see, the socialists are the real fascists. Ian Danskin would be horrified to see this perversion of his work.
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Someone who calls themselves a socialist but advocates actions that help fascism isn't a socialist. They might believe in the ideals of socialism, but in practice those actions are fascist. When they use the alt-right playbook to make those same talking points, I will call that out.
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Uh-huh. I don’t think you’re aware of how far left Innuendo Studios is. Ian “Pinko” Danskin doesn’t seem to be working to convince his audience to vote for Harris. You might even say he‘s discouraging it. I don’t know where he lives or how he plans to vote, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he votes for the pinko candidate, Claudia de la Cruz, especially if he doesn’t live in a swing state where his vote might actually have any effect on the outcome.
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Fortunately, we can have nuance in our views. I can think Ian has done good work in some cases whilst disagreeing with his opinion in others. But regardless, he's not using right-wing talking points, unlike a collection of about 5 accounts around here that are repeatedly posting stuff on Lemmy trying to discourage people from voting.
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