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commie @lemmy.dbzer0.com if it's free, then throwing it out and acquiring plants is more expensive.
3 0 Replyarchomrade [he/him] @midwest.social If it's free then throwing it out costs nothing though, right? Or are you talking about the cost of the state subsidy?
Wouldn't it be cheaper to the state to subsidize a plant-based diet instead?
3 3 Replycommie @lemmy.dbzer0.com Wouldn’t it be cheaper to the state to subsidize a plant-based diet instead?
regardless of what would be a good decision for the state, the oxford paper doesn't acknowledge the material conditions of most people.
6 0 Replyarchomrade [he/him] @midwest.social oxford paper doesn’t acknowledge the material conditions of most people
It acknowledges the material conditions of production
1 5 Replycommie @lemmy.dbzer0.com i don't see what your point could possibly be. most people will not find it cheaper to be vegan without significant changes to both their own lifestyle and systemic change. the oxford paper completely ignores anyone who isn't
- paying
- full price
- at the supermarket.
4 0 Replyarchomrade [he/him] @midwest.social The paper is discussing the cost of the diet, not the safety net programs that are built around the american diet.
A paper that analyses the consumer choices and systemic hurtles to eating a vegan diet it would be a different paper, and it would be making a different point than this one.
1 2 Replycommie @lemmy.dbzer0.com so the headline that is used on the site, and the excerpt used to create the link in this thread both need some heavy caveats. without proper context, both the claims made by them are actually false.
4 0 Replyarchomrade [he/him] @midwest.social Without reading the paper you could interpret from it anything you wanted, I suppose.
1 2 Replycommie @lemmy.dbzer0.com which seems to be the goal of both beaver and the editorial staff who posted the fluff piece that beaver linked.
4 0 Replyarchomrade [he/him] @midwest.social Maybe to you.... To me it seems like you're trying to post-rationalize your choice to eat meat and not a vegan diet
1 2 Replycommie @lemmy.dbzer0.com we haven't said anything about my diet. i'm talking purely about the merits of the paper raised in this context.
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commie @lemmy.dbzer0.com If it’s free then throwing it out costs nothing though, right?
but replacing it would cost something. throwing away perfectly good food isn't something most people think is a moral good.
2 0 Replyarchomrade [he/him] @midwest.social I thought your point was to disregard the morality of the diet and focus on the economics?
2 1 Replycommie @lemmy.dbzer0.com this subthread was about beaver's misleading link.
2 0 Replyarchomrade [he/him] @midwest.social Their link was addressing the claim that eating vegan is a luxury.
For what the comment was responding to I think it was perfectly well framed, but you can extrapolate anything you want from it if that's your thing.
1 1 Replycommie @lemmy.dbzer0.com heir link was addressing the claim that eating vegan is a luxury.
and it did so misleadingly, as being in teh position to always pay full price for food at a store is a luxury.
2 0 Replyarchomrade [he/him] @midwest.social as being in teh position to always pay full price for food at a store is a luxury.
Not if by 'cost' they meant 'cost', and not 'what they get from the state at no cost'
1 0 Replycommie @lemmy.dbzer0.com if i have food, throwing it away and getting more food is more expensive.
2 0 Replyarchomrade [he/him] @midwest.social The paper wasn't discussing food stamp programs or even what food you might already have
1 0 Replycommie @lemmy.dbzer0.com right. it's simply not scoped to support the claim tha being vegan is 30% cheaper
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