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dude, people wonder why i shit on android constantly, why would you ever produce a product that can just, do shit like this, it's awful. (to be clear, i hate IOS as much, for the same reasons)
And its only worse with manufacturer flavors of android, samsung loves shipping a bunch of useless apps that you can't even remove.
and no, i don't want to hear about rooting. Just call me when you guys figure out how to make an actual OS.
- Your negativity sucks but at least it's not targeted at anyone. It's just souring people's moods.
  
  the negativity sucks, but android is frankly, deserving of it, especially with how much better IOS is now than it used to be.
  Android only implemented MDNS in android 12, OS wide (the only useful implementation of it) a literal decade after microsoft added it to windows
  mounting shit like an SMB share is literally impossible, unless rooted. Because fuck you, why would you ever want to mount remote storage on a device known for having super expensive storage, or really shitty storage.
  It's customizable, if all you want to customize is the homescreen, because the lockscreen isn't trivially customizable.
  it's also a google product, so it comes with the really cool feature of being terrible.
  Oh and if you wanted to install apps on the playstore, they're also all shit. Most of them are paid, and the rest are either ad filled, or malware. Cool, i'll just use fdroid then. Oh wait it's just a glorified APK installer...
  not to mention androids nonsense file structure and partitioning done by default, as well as it's wonderfully obtuse .NOMEDIA standard, that doesn't seem to work properly, and doesn't fucking implement anywhere.
  the ram management is also fucking horrid, seeming to only unload apps entirely, but arguably that's more of a problem with apps taking literal gigabytes of ram to load fucking text on the screen just so you can read someone making a your mom joke.
  People talk constantly about how amazing the technical leap from PDP11s to iphones was, yet we seem to be regressing in the software space faster than germany during the hitler arc and it fucking baffles me how.
  
  Whats wrong with fdroid? Glorified apk installer. Ye...es? What else should an app store do?
  
  fundamentally, it's an app doing something the platform it's built on doesn't allow it to do, nor was it designed for.
  In terms of the app, it's literally a shoehorned app store, and it's somehow better than the play store. How do you fuck up the playstore that badly? The bar is so low that a software repository that "technically" works is literally the bare minimum. Most of that is arguably the fault of android, because it's the single worst operating system in the world, apparently.
  
  I think it would be a more constructive use of your time to find solutions to your problems or to just switch to a dumb phone and carry a netbook around just live a less stressful life.
  Complaining and doing nothing about it doesn't fix anything and it even makes things worse. Manufacturers love to hear a customer resign to complacency even when they're dissatisfied. It shows them just how far they can push their users around for profit.
  Generally most people at a company wants to do good in their respective roles but as a company the choice between user choice and more profit is obvious, higher-ups want to be good at their jobs too.
  Whenever you see an opportunity always prove to the company why the things you care about could make them money or help them gain more users weather that's voting with your wallet, creating better alternatives, or rallying people up to peacefully boycott and or protest.
  
  Complaining and doing nothing about it doesn’t fix anything and it even makes things worse. Manufacturers love to hear a customer resign to complacency even when they’re dissatisfied. It shows them just how far they can push their users around for profit.
  "you shouldn't complain, just do something else"
  "manufacturers love when their customers stop complaining and just do something else instead"
  my brother in christ android and IOS have a combined market share of over 99% the only alternative is this wonderful little thing called the pinephone (and it's few friends that exist) which are, marginally better. Because they're still under the whims of the hardware manufacturers of the chips they use. (which fun fact, produce chips for android devices)
  Unless you are unironically recommending that i start a hardware design company rivaling arm, which is not dogshit like qualcomm, and actually produces hardware for a phone company, likely pine, but they might not even do what i want because they are a separate company entirely after all. I'm not really sure what your proposed solution here is. What i can tell you, is that i have zero plans to buy a phone, ever. Maybe a satellite GPS communication device so i don't die in the fucking woods or something.
  Whenever you see an opportunity always prove to the company why the things you care about could make them money or help them gain more users weather that’s voting with your wallet, creating better alternatives, or rallying people up to peacefully boycott and or protest.
  ah yes, good think i didn't complain about issues i had that bothered me or anything. I swear to god between the trolls and bots on this platform (and reddit) they only spend their time doing one of two things, politics, or yelling at people about mobile phones because apparently they have nothing better to be doing. No shade to you personally, unless you are trolling, but it's one of the very few areas that i have such annoying problems with, that people consistently reply to with "haha, dumbass, get fucked"
  
  I don't know what's eating you up inside but it feels beyond any sort of reasoning. I never liked it when people twisted my words. Were practically saying the same thing. I'm just saying hit them where it hurts, their bottom line. You are free to complain just do something productive with it.
  I'd recommend a hike or maybe go rent a kayak and soak up a little nature. You seem so angry all the time it's not good for you.
  
  mostly people like you posting stupid shit in response to the stuff i say.
  You are free to complain just do something productive with it.
  take any guesses as to why i have opinions on things ever. I'll wait.
  You seem so angry all the time it’s not good for you.
  i'm not angry all that often, really only half the time i'm on lemmy.
  
  I, too, just want Linux phones to take off already. We're this far in the future and I still don't really have a "computer in my pocket" so much as a "specialized commerce and consumption device that can occasionally be made to do useful things."
  Android feels like the whole OS was made to be telemetry and advertiser friendly. I just wish I could have that "It's my device" feeling in my pocket like I do on my desk.
  Your complaints about Android are valid, and I think there's fewer people who are actually "android enthusiasts" vs "It's what we've got right now"ists lol...
  
  same, i suspect linux phones will take off, the primary issue ironically, is hardware. Shitty hardware vendors providing bad closed source hardware drivers, and other menial bullshit that doesnt help (thanks qualcomm)
  Once those issues are sorted out, i think it's a fairly straight shot to getting software support, since most mobile hardware is effectively the same.
  Your complaints about Android are valid, and I think there’s fewer people who are actually “android enthusiasts” vs "It’s what we’ve got right now"ists lol…
  i'd like to say the same, but honestly i think most android users are just, too stockholmed to actually care.
- this seems like a good situation to hear about rooting but go off
  
  it seems good, until you realize it's a nightmare process that only works on "most phones" requiring some kind of crackpot technique pulled straight from someones ass that happened to work.
  only to get moderately more access to googled android and oops, it's still mostly shit. Oh good, i can probably just install an android derivative, and oops, it's also mostly dogshit, just less worse and more annoying.
  
  I did not have any problems installing LineageOS on my Galaxy at all and it solves most of the issues you listed. Helps with battery life etc. It's not just mostly degoogling.
  
  that's nice, personally i just think that anything android derived is essentially a boat made out of ice.
  
  So what do you use instead? Not iOS I hope LOL. LineageOS is the best option I've found. I'm not a Tech Philosopher, I want control over my device.
  
  android, shockingly, it's almost like it explains why i hate it so much lmao.
  I've heard some decent things about lineage, but i feel like i would still hate it, just moderately less than android since it probably won't give me aids as opposed to android.
  One of these days i'm either getting a linux phone, and just using linux (which doesn't absolve me fully of the terrible hardware platform that phones are based on, unfortunately) that or i'll pull some shit out of my ass and use a PDA or just make some shit out of thin air that aligns with my requirements. One of the two.
  I want control over my device.
  if it makes any more sense, i'm a linux user at heart, so linux has ruined me because it's essentially the perfect OS design, aside from how aggressively modular it is. I essentially just want linux, but turbo specific for android and it's hardware. And ideally, the hardware would be less dogshit, a proper BIOS standard would be nice for one, rom flashing is kinda fucking silly ngl. Proper hardware support in the open source space would also obviously help a lot, qualcomm and other providers are quite dogshit about that in particular, which causes a lot of problems.
  
  I won't nag you to switch until you have a second device handy haha that's when I did, but switched from a secondhand iOS device bought off a friend for almost nothing
  
  yeah, i'll get around to it someday, either through buying something like a pinephone or just acquiring an android phone and fucking around with it, though i think most android phones are rather boring so who knows how long that will take lol.
  
  you can always agonize about the perfect option over the course of a year after jumping ship!
  hey don't hold back, i already bought another ~$110 USD samsung off newegg and put LineageOS on it haha making it for a friend
  
  it's not even that, i'm just not motivated to do anything about it because of how much i fucking hate it.
  There will probably be a pretty significant period of my life where i simply do not own a phone.

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