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Sen. Mark Warner Forming a Group Of Democratic Senators To Call On Biden To Drop Out

www.washingtonpost.com Sen. Mark Warner works to gather Senate Democrats to ask Biden to exit race

Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.) is attempting to assemble a group of Democratic senators to go to the White House on Monday and ask that Joe Biden exit the presidential race, according to two people with direct knowledge of the effort.

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like a rural person would legitimately live and die by their belief system, so e.g. when they opposed ObamaCare, even though many did it without truly understanding what it even meant, others on the other hand did know what it meant, and still opposed it, even for themselves.
This is conduct of an ideal imperial subject: selfless to the bone. This self-effacement, self-denial, self-hatred never ever stays with just their own person.
The fascsists will never win. They didn't even win WW2, never mind today. But will they leave a mark? They already have via SCOTUS. That's not in doubt. Will they leave an even bigger mark before we clean them up? Almost certainly.
We are at war, and have been all this while. Cold war, asymmetric war, hot war, civil war, unconventional war, information war, etc. That's the reality of living in a world with not just competing interests, but living with grossly incompatible interests, incompatible worldviews, and incompatible value systems all vying for dominance.
What truly messed me up though was watching CGP Grey's video Rules for Rulers, which isn't quite Machiavellian though it gives off similar tones in that it encourages people to open their eyes to some of those uncomfortable Truths: that "corruption" isn't so much a flaw - although it most definitely is that too, especially when taken to excess - as it is a necessary grease to keep the system working. We ignore this at our peril.
In a democracy everyone is a ruler, just not exclusively.
But culturally we have been bred for generations to have the mindset of a subject. We are learning what it means for each to be responsible for their own world the way a monarch would be, but without the exclusivity of a monarch.
This is an evolutionary process. When monarchies fell, the mindset, the values, the sensibilities of subjecthood didn't just vanish overnight.
Democracy will prevail but there will be painful lessons.
- I don't deny that conservatives hate themseslves - it's somewhat the definition of the brand (they hate others, but ofc it's always someone else, NeVeR tHeM, who will get their faces eaten off), but there is also that pioneering spirit of "go west young man" that expanded America both before and especially after the 13 colony stage.
  Think of fascism as a virus: sometimes it wins, other times not, either way it loses in the end b/c it kills the host, and yet... it just keeps spreading doesn't it.
  It sounds like you are underestimating the effect of the SCOTUS ruling. Or perhaps news headlines have been over-estimating it, and I haven't researched it deep enough to refute that? Honestly I have no idea which.
  I think some of the reason why democracy is not thought highly of in America is the electoral college, not its effect that is much more often talked about, but here I mean its mere existence, acting to reassure people that if they make a REALLY bad decision, then big daddy rich men will come in and clean it up for them. We should all be much more afraid than we are. We should study hard in school, if we want to earn the right to vote responsibly. We should also treat that right to vote much more seriously - e.g. have a requirement where you pass a test to be able to do it, perhaps the same test that immigrants must take in order to become a citizen. How can someone vote "responsibly" if they aren't even aware that the number of branches of government is three?
  
  I am with you. We should take POWER seriously, and in addition to civics power literacy should be taught.
  Because voting and the entire Western civilization rests on the bottom up people power.
  It's like when pirates had true democratic governance before any country did. Because each pirate was willing to kill every other pirate in their sleep, and they each knew that about themselves and each other, and made a rational decision to vote. But imagine if most pirates were NOT willing to kill, and this unwillingness was also well known? Why the fuck would they each get a vote then? Think about it.
  
  That's the thing - we shouldn't all have a vote. The founding fathers warned us about if we did: the elites would sway those who most easily prostrated and gave themselves up to that, hence power would go to those most willing to do precisely that.
  That is why the USA was called an "experiment" in democracy - it was a test, not assured that we would make it. The fact that we have come this far by no means acts as a guarantee that we have the ability to go any further. And somehow the people who routinely fall for chain email scams are the ones in charge.
  What made it work, in the past, was that the elites enjoyed the fiction of allowing people to vote - they were pacified, and the real stuff got done regardless, however they wished. However, now with globalization and automation, that precept is no longer true. Mega-corporations don't need or want much of an educated workforce, least of all one that acts entired, demanding a higher share of profits.
  I see government itself becoming less relevant than it used to be, as multinational corporations amass more power than those are allowed to retain. But to the extent they are allowed to continue existing, they become a tool of those in power to exert even further control. Meanwhile we talk as if We The People are in charge, but the more the masses say that, the less true it is. Especially when they refuse to even so much as read a book or watch a video about how things really are. They prefer to watch sports or reality TV shows, confident that big daddy will give them everything they hoped for, not realizing that what they deserve is so, so much ah... different.
  Things are going to change, that's for sure, as we settle into a new equilibrium that better matches the updated set of circumstances that we see now and expect to come soon.
  
  We should and will all have a vote.
  
  Anyone who takes the time to educate themselves on the issues should get a vote. But if you don't even want to be aware that there are 3 branches of government, and like what their names are then... the vote is worse than unhelpful, it becomes an echo of the people who are trying to bring the system down. Then nobody gets a vote, especially when votes themselves are done away with.
  
  Once voting becomes conditional, it's a precedent and then it will invite all kinds of people to adjust the conditions, to apply conditions selectively, etc.
  A universal suffrage is much more defensible and harder to abuse.
  Your concern is best addressed by making civics and power literacy mandatory, and sanely regulated gun ownership also mandatory. AR-15 is not an assault rifle. But people with a verifiable history of violent domestic abuse or violence toward animals at any age, no guns. Anyone caught in possession of a firearm while intoxicated, instant loss of the gun privilege. Armed robbery, larceny of firearms, no guns. Etc.

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