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Talking to normies about privacy:

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Using the term "normies" paints you as having a superiority complex, which isn't the best look.
- Everyone is a normie for some things
- I appreciate you calling out the use of the term "normie". Communities that frequently use such terms always end up with an unhealthy "us vs them" mentality.
  Like I'm not surprised people don't react well to someone bringing up privacy issues if said person starts the conversation with the mentality of "how do I enlighten this normie?"
  
  How do I reeeach theese Normies
  
  What's hilarious is that it becomes normalized by a majority in a community then a minority breaks off once it does and the cycle starts again. It's normies all the way down.
- Really? I just interpreted the use of normie here as "layperson" or "average user" and thought it was completely harmless.
  
  Have someone refer to you as a normie and lmk if it feels neutral or derogatory.
  
  I can't imagine normies getting worked up over what some internet nerd calls them
  
  That's neither here nor there and sidesteps the point. Also, depending on how you define normies and nerds, it's a bit silly. You can't imagine a random person being worked up by being called names online. I mean, okay, if you say so.
  
  Yes, it means layperson, but with derogatory cense. It is like using the n-word to describe black people (though not as extreme). If you mean average user, just say average user, unless you really mean to use derogatory term, that is.
- https://files.catbox.moe/0rq290.mp4
  
  What anime is that from ?
  
  Amagi Brilliant Park, episode 6 I think
  
  Thanks !
- You’re not wrong. That said sometimes it can be self-deprecating.
  In any case, one substitute is “non-nerds”, but I’m sure someone can think of a term that fits even better in the meme.
- You getting downvoted sort of proves the point.
  
  That people agree/disagree?
  
  There's a difference between disagreeing and being disrespectful.
  
  downvoting is a form of expression, to label downvoting as disrespectful based on a narrow definition limits freedom of expression and overlooks the nuances. im a democratic socialist so voting is important to me.
  
  Or you could take the time you explain your opinion.
  
  I'm all for duologue, but there is a voting system, its very accessible more so than typing. Don't you think this is a bit short sited and in reverse should people avoid voting in general good and bad?
  
  You still haven't explained why people shouldn't take "normie" as a pejorative, or why using potential insults is a good thing.
  
  Weird fallback, I dont see this as relevant to our discussion so I won't be explaining "why people shouldn't take "normie" as a pejorative, or why using potential insults is a good thing."
  
  "there’s a difference between disagreeing and being disrespectful."
  That's the point I was trying to make.
  Someone was getting downvoted for saying people shouldn't use that term.
  imho using the term 'normie' and downvoting opinions you disagree with are both rude.
  And no one in this thread has explained why I should think I'm wrong.
  If we've gone too far from the original intent, I'll say goodbye.
- I find it a very confusing term aswell because what does it even define? I always arrive on it being a synonymous to neurotypical outside the autistic context.
  
  The average person, the common man, the everyday user, the casual, the layman. Context dependent, obv.
- In the world of anime I am a normie and that's fine
- It implies them having that complex, thinking they know better than, as another comment pointed out, some nerds.
  You know, that kind of people thinking their degree of social anthropology or whatever makes them smarter than you in every area. Because whatever they are doing is important and whatever you are doing is toys for nerds.
  
  I can imagine a social butterfly looking down on nerds. Although I gotta level with you: that sounds like something that would primarily occur in high school to me. Maybe you're grown and still dealing with that, but either way: using the term normies is not going to help at all, I assure you.
  
  Maybe you’re grown and still dealing with that, but either way: using the term normies is not going to help at all, I assure you.
  This seems common sense to you, right?
  Well, I, being almost 28, am just starting to realize that you should carefully measure both respect and disrespect, and there may be too little or too much of both.
  Maybe not "social butterfly", I'm just thinking of all the people thinking they now know what is serious in life. A surprising amount don't have complex hobbies or even deep cultural familiarity with their own profession.
  And if that profession is more about talking to people than about conceptualization (many typical office jobs), or maybe it is descriptive, not creative (like many liberal arts degrees), they are going to be dismissive of people who actually make things.
  Watching and doing is different, and people watching often think too much of their ability to do stuff, just like with sports or music or cars or warfare or porn.
  EDIT: The point was that sometimes it's better to be honest and use such means to inform people that they don't know what they are talking about.
- Being a normie isn’t the best look either.
  Misanthropy in current times is an indicator of a functioning brain.
  
  I've written software you use every day. Apache, NGinx, and a bunch of CNCF projects. I'm just as good as you at tech, likely better, and have a full understanding. I didn't give a crap.
  Opinions like yours are the essence of fedora anti culture that paints a picture of the asshole IT guy.
  
  Anyone that says it's all great is delusional or trying to exploit a market inefficiency.
  
  There's quite a leap from "absolutely everything is completely fine" to "I hate all humans". Both are idiotic sentiments.
  
  And there's the "both sides are the same" argument
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