11mo ago

Biden Sets Internet Alight With ‘Dark Brandon’ Super Bowl Reaction

www.thedailybeast.com Biden Sets Internet Alight With ‘Dark Brandon’ Super Bowl Reaction

The post appeared to reference recent right-wing conspiracy theories featuring the pop star Taylor Swift.

President Joe Biden had conspiracy theorists in a tizzy after posting what appeared to be his reaction to the Kansas City Chiefs Super Bowl win on Sunday night.

“Just like we drew it up,” Biden posted on X alongside a photo of “Dark Brandon,” the meme created by hardcore—and very online—supporters of Donald Trump that Biden and his team loved so much they adopted it as their own.

The post was apparently referencing far-right conspiracy theories which posit the NFL and high-level government operatives conspired to rig the Super Bowl in Kansas City’s favor to give maximum exposure to a yet-to-be-announced endorsement from Chiefs star Travis Kelce and his girlfriend Taylor Swift.

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Why would anyone think Biden is actually posting this shit to social media himself?
Why do they keep hiring interns that want to make Biden seem like trump?
All I want is a functional adult in the White House. But that's just not an option these day.
I'd ask if "moderates" ever feel embarrassed over this stupid shit, but it's been obvious for decades their line is habitually right above republican.
So whatever bullshit Republicans are fine with, give it 4-8 years and both parties are going to act like it's normal.
Biden could have given the traditional pre game interview and alleviated fears of his ability. Instead he cancels it for the second year in a row and the media pretends he's posting "dank memes" and that's just as good.
- I don't care.
  What?
  All I want is a functional adult in the White House.
  You have one. Hence the U.S. economy getting back on track, inflation dropping, unemployment low, fuel costs low and infrastructure finally getting rebuilt. Plus much cheaper insulin for seniors.
  Ohhhhh! Wait, what you meant is that all you want is someone to do exactly what you want them to do. My mistake.
  
  It’s nearly impossible to argue with manufactured outrage. They don’t want a logical debate. There will be no logic in their argument. Your stance can come from a place of reason, and humanity- and they’ll still shit all over it because it’s what’s cool to do now.
  
  Woohoo I am glad we care more about money instead of the fact that we are supporting the killing of innocent children.
  Thank god that almighty dollar is there, it is so much more important than human life!
  
  Yes, believe it or not, being able to pay the bills and feed my family is of a higher priority to me. And while we're at things I can see Trump doing, I'd prefer not to have my queer daughter put in a "conversion therapy" camp.
  
  Ah I see.
  To me peoples lives are more important than a conversion camp.
  Here’s a secret to life, as long as someone is still alive, we can work on helping them.
  Once they’re dead though, completely different.
  
  Sorry, are you saying I should prioritize other people's lives over my child's?
  Are you fucking nuts?
  
  You can’t see the difference there, really?
  I think you may be being a little shady here, friend, just a little bit deceptive, because I don’t believe that you were stupid enough to not see the difference between supporting the actual physical life of someone and not getting everything you fucking want?
  Are you going to be the one putting your daughter in the conversion camp?
  No?
  Yeah, that’s how the actual conversion camps?
  So you’re deliberately trying to make a false equivalence here?
  Now you could tell me to worry about other peoples children, but that doesn’t give you the personal grab and shield did it being your own daughter does, does it?
  So surely you’re not using loaded language here?
  Look at the straight facts, your boy is supporting and directly enabling the killing of 10,000 innocent children.
  Ones who will never even get the chance to grow.
  That is what you support, you can hide from that fact all you want.
  Fuck Trump and Fuck Biden.
  They can both die today and we could have 2 more public fucking toilets.
  As long as you people keep fucking supporting them no matter what then they will never change.
  You people are just as bad as the motherfuckers that have to carry a pistol just to walk to their cars.
  You all are letting fear ruin your ability to have anything fucking better.
  You are holding the rest of us back with you.
  Do you know how many stupid motherfuckers I hear voting for bad people just to “ be moderate” but really they wish they could have insert actual good choice here?
  If even half of them would vote for the “not safe” candidate then they would win by a landslide.
  Instead people who like the motherfucking status quo hide behind the “safe choice” just so that they can pretend that they are fine with children dying as long as it is far away from them.
  Try thinking about something or someone that doesn’t directly affect or connect to you.
  “Fuck You, I Got Mine!”, where oh where have I seen that attitude before?
  But yeah, I’m glad you can ignore it just because you aren’t affected by it.
  
  That's a lot of words to tell me that I should, in fact, care about other people more than my daughter.
  I sincerely hope you don't have children.
  
  Here, let me shorten it.
  Yes, there are times that you should, in fact, care about other people more than your daughter.
  I care more about other people when they’re hungry, than my child getting an ice cream.
  I have taken the money that I was going to use to get there an ice cream to give to someone that was homeless.
  It’s almost like we as adults can understand it worse, things can be happening to someone else that we should divert some type of resource away from ourselves in our families to stop the other thing.
  Here’s an easier example, there are people all over America that take money that could be used on their children’s toys during Christmas time,and instead donate that money, so that other children can have things.
  
  Yes, there are times that you should, in fact, care about other people more than your daughter.
  No. No there absolutely are not. And if you think that and you are a parent, you should absolutely have CPS called on you.
  Your examples have nothing to do with a child's welfare, which is obviously what we are talking about here.
  And my daughter's welfare, based on what TRUMP HAS ALREADY DONE is at stake here.
  You just don't give a shit because you don't care about queer people.
  
  This is probably a foreign concept, but it's important to understand in case you're ever in a plane crash. When the oxygen masks come down, you put your oxygen mask on first. Then you help others.
  You're welcome, if you're ever in a plane crash I just saved your life and the people around you. And yes you are welcome because you clearly did not understand the concept based on the comment I'm replying to.
  
  To where is the helping others part here?
  Is… is it inside all of the bombs?
  Is that why Israel is dropping so many bombs for all the help that’s inside of them?
  Shit! I didn’t know, my bad.
  
  So in this analogy, the 'people in the plane around you' are actually the Palestinian civilialians that we are genociding? And you think it is fine to financially and rhetorically support an ongoing genocide as long as domestic issues are being taken care of?
  This seems to be the opposite of the "we can walk and chew gum at the same time" type of rhetoric we hear often from the Democrats.
  
  Human life is supported by the almighty dollar. Like it or not, that’s how it is. I have to feed my children, don’t I? And Biden did the best he could to get the economy back on track. He succeeded. But by all means, let’s not give him any credit because he is not perfect.
  
  This person actually thinks you and I should put other people's lives over our own children's lives.
  
  False equivalence they aren’t both ending in death.
  With a proper support system, your daughter will be fine no matter what the outside world is like
  
  "It's okay if your daughter suffers as long as she doesn't die."
  Fucking listen to yourself.
  My daughter will not be fine. This is what Trump did in his first term:
  https://www.hrc.org/news/the-list-of-trumps-unprecedented-steps-for-the-lgbtq-community
  Trump is a clear and present danger to queer people.
  The fact is that you just don't give a shit about queer people.
  
  So what is the exchange rate between “potential things that trump might do” and actual physical deaths that Biden has supported.
  How many deaths does it take to change your mind?
  How many of other people’s children are you willing to sacrifice to keep biden in the White House?
  
  How many deaths did Trump cause 2016-2020? Care to count them? It’s not about what Trump might do. It’s about what he’s done and has promised that he will do.
  Dictator for a day.
  What do you think that means exactly?
  
  Play the same game with Biden and trump.
  That is how it should be, just because one does something doesn’t mean you forgive the other if they do it just because they are on the same side as you.
  Fuck them both. Trump killed people through not acting with Covid.
  Trump is a complete and total piece of shit just like fucking Biden.
  I do not give a shit how good you made the fucking economy or whatever.
  You are still giving bombs to people to kill children with.
  
  I’m not gong to argue with you just to get my comments deleted and accounts banned.
  Your wrong. And your decision to fold your arms and pout instead of voting will potentially cost the rest of us our democracy.
  I hope you are okay to live with that. Because it Will be YOUR fault.
  Blocking you now so as to avoid losing my ability to continue posting here.
  
  Yes, you've already made it clear that you don't give a shit about queer people.
  
  this is bad faith
  
  No. No it isn't. They told me I shouldn't be worried about what Trump will do to my queer daughter based on what he has done in the past. That clearly shows they have no problem with what Trump has done in the past because they don't think what he did was bad enough already.
  They also suggested that my daughter would be fine as long as she doesn't die.
  So I stand by what I said. They don't give a shit about queer people.
  
  So that, to you, is worth all of the dead children that have happened because of the weapons we sent?
  
  I think the deal is more "My family is safe and healthy and that is important to me" over "wow I don't care at all about dead foreign kids."
  In a 2-party system, sometimes that's the best you can get... and frankly, I give more of a shit about myself and my friends/family who would be much worse off under Republicans than Democrats, enough that if I have to id vote Democrat every time until the immediate threat of Republicans is dealt with.
  And again, because you just don't seem to get it, Republicans have an even worse track record on the middle east lol. (Not intended as a whataboutism - more as an explanation that the two-party system sucks, and how not voting for one effectively means the other wins)
  
  RECORD HOMELESSNESS
  
  Exactly what do you expect Biden to do about that?
  
  He should be like Jimmy Carter and start building them homes himself, by hand. /s
  
  Anything would be better than the gas lighting bullshit they're trying to pull at the moment.
  
  what "gaslighting" is biden doing about homelessness?
  
  Bidenomics Is Working: The President’s Plan Grows the Economy from the Middle Out and Bottom Up—Not the Top Down
  Not about homelessness per se, just the economy as a whole.
  
  oh, so you admit that you were lying.
  
  Well no, there's still record homelessness. That's still the reality.
  
  the lie:
  Anything would be better than the gas lighting bullshit they’re trying to pull at the moment.
  but nice try at gaslighting
  
  "I say shocking this for response rather than actually responding to the words being said to me for understanding!"
  
  Sorry?
  
  Your responses are more like Republican rhetoric rather than a mutual understanding. Record homelessness has alot more to do with the grand Cheeto and his inability properly manage the pandemic than anything Joe did. And there is only so much he can do when there are so many reasons it got out of hand. He's doing better than most and it would be great if it went away. Holding corporate overlords would be more useful than blaming the politicians that are trying.
  
  Fuck all.
  
  Okay, then why associate it with him?
  
  Because he's the president who's trying to convince us that everything is fine?
  A strong economy means companies are doing well, when companies are doing well, the average worker isn't being paid enough.
  
  Because he’s the president who’s trying to convince us that everything is fine?
  When has he done that?
  A strong economy means companies are doing well, when companies are doing well, the average worker isn’t being paid enough.
  Again, what can he do about this?
  He put forward a bill that ended up creating and will create a lot of jobs. He can't control what people are paid in those jobs and he also cannot control rent and housing prices.
  You seem to be forgetting that this was about someone claiming they wanted a "functional adult" in the White House, followed by me pointing out a lot of things he'd accomplished and 'functional' does not mean 'does everything you want.'
  And you basically chime in complaining that he isn't doing everything you want.
  
  The problem here is you are asking someone that doesn’t really want an answer or likely to even be fixed they just want to say something loud and blame someone else.
  If it wasn’t this it’d be another bigger picture problem blamed one on individual.
  
  President Joe Biden to repeatedly ask his advisers: Why then are so many Americans still not feeling great about the economy?
  
  Is that supposed to be your proof of Biden trying to convince us that everything is fine?
  Because maybe you should have read the article to the end...
  “But for all we’ve done to bring prices down, there are still too many corporations in America ripping people off. Price gouging, junk feeds, greedflation, shrinkflation,” Biden added. “America – we’re tired of being played for suckers!”
  
  Actions speak louder than words my friend. Most people are still struggling with rent and food.
  Bidenomics Is Working: The President’s Plan Grows the Economy from the Middle Out and Bottom Up—Not the Top Down
  
  "Why aren't people feeling good about this?" is pretty much the polar opposite of "convincing us that everything is fine". Trying to understand why people aren't fine despite economic "indicators" is exactly what I want a leader to do.
  
  Because he’s the president who’s trying to convince us that everything is fine?
  where is this happening?
  
  Have you not seen videos of him gloating about bidenomics?
  
  being proud of the success of his economic policy != your claim.
  wanna try that again?
  
  Not really, the economy is still not working for the majority of people and he's trying to convince us that it's good. That is the end of my assertion.
  
  if the president doesn't have the power to do anything, why are you so scared of how I'll vote?
  
  put an aircraft carrier at every major port and open it up for public housing. or just use the pentagon.
  
  So... displace all the people who already live on the aircraft carrier (making them homeless) and make our military budget have to be much more bloated by spreading out the workforce across DC or the country and we'll solve homelessness?
  Because I don't live near a port or The Pentagon and I'm pretty sure there are a lot of homeless people here.
  
  Lake Michigan, and Lake Erie aren't too far away from you. The Ohio River as well.
  /s
  
  something tells me the people stationed on the carrier also have homes (or could afford them with all the money the government doles out for them). and i didn't say it was a panacea, just that it's something he could do to address the record homelessness.
  
  Oh, well, as long as something tells you that they could afford a home, then that must be true.
  
  i have pretty good intuition.
  
  all evidence to the contrary.
  
  this is rhetoric, not a rebuttal
  
  Sure. You and Trump.
  
  this is some pretty ham-fisted pigeonholing
  
  and how would cramming a bunch of homeless people on an aircraft carrier help them? it's not really designed to house civilians. and what would they do for work? there's not exactly a transit system to get them to and from jobs, medical appointments, necessary social services, etc. They'd be stuck on the ship.
  you should look into what life on an active naval vessel is like-- it's not exactly conducive to either civilian life nor to taking care of a bunch of homeless people who have complex social, psychological, and medical needs. this wouldn't solve any problems and owuld create a lot of new ones-- not to mention that we need those aircraft carriers.
  
  there is no reason they need to work
  
  uh... to support themselves by earning an income? being unable to afford housing is most often the reason they're homeless in the first place.
  
  air craft carries can certainly provide medical treatment and social services on site
  
  not that type of help or for that number of people all at once for a sustained amount of time. but, sure, go ahead and provide evidence for you claims that battlefield medicine on a battleship is the same as long-term medical and psychiatric care provided to civilians.
  
  you claims that battlefield medicine on a battleship is the same as long-term medical and psychiatric care provided to civilians.
  i didn't say that. this is a strawman
  
  if being in ship is not a workable solution, he could always sell the ship to fund programs to relieve homelessness
  
  it's pretty telling that you can't simply imagine a solution where more money is appropriated to fund such programs rather than the absurd notion of selling of critical military hardware.
  
  it’s pretty telling that you can’t simply imagine a solution where more money is appropriated to fund such programs rather than the absurd notion of selling of critical military hardware.
  there's no evidence i can't imagine a solution such as that, only that i havent presented one here
  and how many air craft carriers does one navy need? i think most countries get by without any.
  
  this is a dumb solution, the aircraft carrier thing, but the spirit of a US military intervention in order to build housing, is, I'm pretty sure, totally within biden's jurisdiction, and would be a pretty good solution to the problem.
  
  I think it would be flashy. I'm not sure it's the most effective thing, but it would have panache
  
  if you're chasing panache, I would probably just like, do some light anti-corporate government funded terrorism, which the government has, for some reason, been somewhat reluctant to fund, relative to your regular right wing domestic wedge issue diet fascist terrorism. Can't imagine why. But that could have some serious flash. Oh no! Somebody dumped 5 metric tons of manure right at google headquarters! Stuff like that, that could have some flash, some sizzle. And, blam, seems like we have a very desperate population of homeless people who are on dire straits and have very little left to lose, who could accomplish these tasks! What joy!
  But yeah I dunno if there's a great flashy way to like. Solve homelessness.
  
  GREAT TASTE
  
  They're are no homeless people anymore.
  We just have people experiencing homelessness. It's way better this way.
  
  Lmao.
- No all you want to do is shit on Biden because it's all you do. Apparently adults can't have a sense of humor.
  
  Me, I'm just blocking and moving on. I've seen enough of the Macedonian Contractor Troll Farm pablum. They're in every politics thread now.
  And just like the highly suspicious stop oil protests that inexplicably target museums, I don't disagree with some of their points at all but the way they're being complete fucking idiots about it means we're done here.
  
  Damn those Macedonian trolls must be working overtime to hijack polls to put Biden's approval 17 points underwater and put him 5 points behind Trump.
  Apparently 86% of Americans are Macedonian trolls who think Biden is too old to serve a second term.
  All these Macedonian trolls that barely trust Biden more on climate change, gun violence, and abortion than trust neither Trump nor Biden.
  
  Oh the horror!
  Someone wants a functional president who does interviews and addresses concerns of voters!!!
  If someone wants that instead of an intern posting shitty memes that means they're a hater and we ignore every criticism they have!
  Kanye fuck West said that's reality and trump is so far gone that Biden acting like Kanye is totally fine and nothing to worry about!
  /S
  Fuck off with that stupid shit.
  Americans are allowed to want more than the current shit show.
  If you want a political party where voters cant criticize an elected official, feel free to try and get republicans back to the middle instead following them to right dragging the dead body of FDRs party.
  
  At least be honest. You don't want a functional president, you want a left-leaning one. That's fine, but at least represent yourself accurately. Otherwise you're just acting with the same childishness as the guys on the other side of the aisle.
  From a pure functionality perspective, he's gotten a shitload done. Even if you don't agree with it all, like helping Netanyahu and such.
  
  American “left” is really right and it’s disgusting people with or without critical thinking skills can’t recognize that.
  
  No, we know, those of us that lean left-for-an-American, anyway. We just don't want an actual communist state. They have this nasty habit of turning into dictatorships somehow. We at least get to throw our shitheels out of office periodically, without having to resort to violence.
  
  there is no such thing as a communist state. communism is stateless.
  
  Right. My bad. State-moving-towards-a-communist-society then.
  
  i don't want that either.
  Full Communism NOW!
  
  Yeah, I'm not sure there's a viable blueprint for that. Something has to handle huge moving bands of guys with guns, tanks and artillery. Otherwise they kill you and take your stuff.
  
  People with critical thinking skills are able to recognize that left and right have different meanings depending on the frame and context. In an American economic frame, Democrats are left, but in a European economic frame their beliefs are center right.
  Similarly, in an American social frame, Democrats are left, and in a European social frame, their beliefs are left as well. Labour is disgustingly TERF, and significantly further right than Democrats when it comes to trans rights.
  Immigration as well, the American frame tends to be more left than Europe. The recent bipartisan agreement was rather center for Europe, but right for the US. European immigration policy tends to not be as leftist.
  Frankly, it's just economic reductionism to say "the American left is actually right". I can look at Europe and see pretty clearly that Democrats are solidly left on social issues to the point of exceeding some European parties.
  
  Biden is perfectly functional even if you don’t agree with the specifics. Comparing him to trump is utterly disingenuous. Posting one joke every now and again is a far, far cry from the deranged ranting we see out of trump every day.
  
  The issue isn't the one joke
  The issue is he once again skipped the pregame interview. Despite constant criticism of his mental ability, he never sits down for an interview.
  Hell give a 5 minute speech or a quick comment. And usually mix up a couple words.
  There's no primary debate, they'll be general debate, Biden needs to actually show Americans he can at least hold a conversation, and there was literally no better opportunity than the traditional pregame interview.
  But he didn't do that, and people want me to clap for him like an intern doesn't run his twitter.
  
  If Trump somehow ends up as the Republican candidate again, we won’t get any coherent general debates anyway. And besides, I only ever hear criticisms about his mental state from right wingers as it is, so I find it hard pressed to care.
- You think Dark Brandon didn’t do this? You simple fool…
- Trump skipped the White House Correspondence Dinners.
  
  And we all know we can't ask for anything better than that...
  
  Have you watched them? I find them to be hilarious no matter who is being joked about or by.
- Exceptionally misguided comment (EGC)
- I got a chuckle out of it. the real problem with biden is he's funding a genocide abroad while going easy on secessionists at home.
  
  He's got a couple.
  But mentioning them in comments or articles gets a shit ton of down votes.
  People really think talking about problems is worse than the problems and we should ignore them
  
  It's not because we don't think problems should be talked about, it's that you're comparing a functional adult to Trump and acting like you can't tell the difference. I'll help, there's only one real difference: Biden isn't a fucking traitor. That's the one that we care about.
  So drop the act, bud. This one is too simple even for the dullards like me to forget: Trump is a traitor, Biden is not, and we don't vote for traitors.
  
  Nope
  Biden is a better president than trump, that's indisputable.
  That doesn't mean Biden is good enough to be president.
  Hell, I don't even know you, but I fell confident you're better than trump. If you wouldn't support a genocide, I'd say you're a better option than both of them.
  It's a pretty low bar, lots of potential candidates not only would be a better president, but more importantly have a better chance of winning the election.
  
  Hey, I want AOC to run, but until then I'm not going to discourage people from voting for the only candidate who's not going to piledrive the US headfirst into the dirt.
  So again, drop the act. Yeah you want a better candidate than Biden, great; that's not the choice. The choice is Biden or Trump. If you don't vote for Biden, your voting for Trump. If you don't believe that fine, stop reading; if you do, there's nothing more to say anyway.
  
  You still don't get it...
  This is the same shit we went thru with Hillary.
  Biden is unpopular. He will depress turnout. Depressed turnout is how republican presidents are made.
  I hope some day you get that, but I'm not explaining it again.
  
  YOU still don't get it. On the surface, you act like Biden and Trump are the same, when they're not. It's nice you think I'd make a better president than Trump, but a literal rock would make a better president as that's incapable of treason.
  Unless you have a plan to change the Democratic nominee this year, all you're doing is depressing voter turnout by encouraging people to forget one simple fact: Biden is not a traitor.
  I do hope you'll understand someday soon, but until then you can have this block, because I'm not explaining it again.
  
  How many genocides did trump actively support?
  Fucking 0?!?!?!?
  
  You mean besides the one he wants to start when he's elected?
  https://ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/news/2023/11/13/trump-hitler-vermin-nazi-biden
  There was also his threat to nuke North Korea, which would be a genocide.
  https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-discussed-using-nuclear-weapon-north-korea-2017-blaming-someone-rcna65120
  Then there was his threat of cultural genocide in Iran...
  https://www.npr.org/2020/01/06/794006073/trump-says-hell-target-iran-s-cultural-sites-that-s-illegal
  And of course there's the genocides that Trump wouldn't admit ever happened.
  https://abcnews.go.com/International/trump-administration-declines-label-rohingya-slaughter-genocide-report/story?id=58055717
  https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/17/politics/trump-administration-armenian-genocide/index.html
  As far as his Israeli policy? He acknowledged that Israel's claim that Jerusalem, a city divided between Israelis and Palestinians, was Israel's capital, pretty much ending any hope for peace.
  https://apnews.com/article/1d4e1824283f41eaa8422227fa8e6ea7
  So sure, he did not literally directly support an ongoing genocide... but I think it's clear that he would.
  
  He threatens a lot of shit.
  Lmk when Mexico pays for that wall.
  
  He committed more US troops to help the Saudis against Yemen.
  
  So maybe after trump wins this time you guys will meet us on the side of supporting a president that isn’t sending bombs to kill innocent children.
  If you keep letting them support genocidal actions win the vote when someone else would have easily won just by not supporting genocidal actions, then you get what you deserve.
  Have fun dealing with your shit sandwich, maybe after trump 2 electric boogaloo y’all will stop supporting the killing of innocent babies
  
  Trump absolutely sent bombs to kill children. Sometimes he even authorized the drone strikes himself. Trump has also proven to be a massive supporter of Israel so I don't see why people think it would be better or even different with Trump.
  
  Plus he's a rapist and a traitor, and a racketeer, a compulsive liar, narcissist and many other terrible things we should never see in a president.
  
  Did we lose 10,000 of them directly because of his actions?
  Or did we lose those because Biden decided to directly support Israel?
  
  As opposed to every president the US has had since the 1940s? Quit avoiding the question. Do you honestly believe it would be better under Trump? Or can you be honest and admit it would most likely be even worse and that he would also let Russia steamroll Ukraine?
  
  Do I honestly believe it I don’t know. It would probably be better for us in America if Biden won.
  But here’s the thing I don’t care what the rest of the presidents did
  It was wrong when they did it. It’s wrong now.
  Does them doing something else wrong make it right for me to do something wrong?
  How many dollars per life are you willing to trade before you say fuck you were not supporting any of y’all give us something real.
  Long-term, maybe trump 2 will wake people the fuck up like we thought they did with a version one.
  See the problem was people look at Trump and think oh we beat him. It’s over and they don’t remember how bad it was.
  So now it’s time to make it bad again today so they remember more next time.
  You’re asking us to stand with you, but saying what we care about doesn’t matter.
  If y’all don’t care about any of us, why would we stand with you?
  I won’t stand with them either.
  Fuck you both, figure it out yourselves.
  I’m not going to be with you to keep the status quo. I want something better.
  
  We don't actually know because the Trump administration removed transparency on drone attacks. Could've been 5000. Could be 20000. It certainly does not bode well that they hid that.
  
  Better a traitor than a genocidal action supporting motherfucker.
  
  They're not mutually exclusive and Trump will do the same or worse as has already been seen.
  Also, you're wrong.
  
  See you say that, but he was in office and we still supported 0 genocides.
  So the total score is 0 genocides to 1
  
  This is a perfect example of why you shouldn't be taken seriously. The idea that Biden is supporting genocide and that Trump didn't and/or won't is absurd on its face. There's nothing wrong with criticizing Biden or his administration, but you're misleading (at best) when you act like Biden is the greater threat. He's not. That's an objective fact. Anyone arguing otherwise is not operating in good faith.
  
  So, you are applying what you think might happen compared to me applying what has actually happened.
  
  History hasn't happened? Trump didn't enable a shitload of dictators already? He hasn't constantly expressed adoration for authoritarians around the world? He hasn't explicitly stated he would do the same thing again? Trump, the person who was so tough on Bibi? Trump, the person who moved our embassy in Israel?
  It's like history reset the moment Biden was inaugurated. All the horrible awful shit Trump has and will continue to enable doesn't matter anymore for some reason (or it straight up didn't happen apparently). You're living in a completely different reality than the rest of the planet I guess?
  If you said "Biden is bad because of X and Trump is worse because of Y" we'd be having a totally different conversation, but you don't want to do that do you? You said none of it happened. You don't want to make that comparison because it shows us one of two things (maybe both idk):
  You feel that GOP control of our government is better than Democrats.
  You have no idea what you're talking about.
  
  Fuck Trump and fuck Biden. They are both public toilets waiting to happen.
  Show me someone else, oh wait even ducking Biden admits 50 other democrats could beat trump.
  We all know that you guys will vote for whoever it is, so that means that y’all are sticking with him.
  I assume out of fear, you could run a fucking solid commie against trump and it wouldn’t change his fucking stats much.
  This is an anti trump fucking fight and the figurehead doesn’t matter, you are proving that right now, and could have run anyone and the people whose main goal is “not trump” would not change.
  
  You do realize that Israel was not suddenly funded and armed by the US when Biden was elected, right? Trump's administration gave them plenty of money and weapons, and showed strong support for Netanyahu. He empowered an apartheid regime, and when recently asked about the Palestinian genocide, he said he wouldn't accept any Palestinian refugees.
  So, your position puts you in favor of denying Palestinian refugees while their genocide continues. You'd prefer for Trump to have a genocide of 1.5 (or whatever denying genocide refugees would be worth numerically) vs Biden at 1, because Trump happened to not be in power when Israel decided to use their weapons from the US to ramp up airstrikes.
  Oh! And you are aware that this genocide has been going on for a while now right? Not just since 2021? So Trump was not only in support of a genocide, he was buddy buddy with Netanyahu. At least Biden seems to hate the man.
  I truly don't understand your logic. You've willfully contorted yourself to give Trump a pass to instead criticize Biden.
  
  Fuck Donald Trump. Is that clear enough for you?
  I never thought Biden’s was that great of a present, but he was exactly what I expected, a middle of the line milquetoast gonna pull off what he can thing.
  Then he kept giving weapons to the Israelis, I can’t forgive that.
  
  Unfortunately these are the two options you have. One of the two will happen anyway even if you abstain.
  
  But trump also supports Israel and thinks Israel should have exclusive claim over Jerusalem??!
  
  Is correct point of view, though. Many people see great leader like Putin and agree that elections of weak Biden are not good. I too am a concerned Leftie Swift who is also transgender and of color.
  
  They’re both poop, so just preferring the smell of one steaming pile over the other doesn’t make it better. Turning and burning in the sun and fertilize healthier crops may.
  
  Biden has been one of the most progressive presidents in decades. But you didn't get your cookies and milk, so he's poop. Got it.
  
  Some people think that Lemmy should be more like 4chan. Downvotes are Life and all that.
  Edit: ~~spank~~ downvote me harder please, daddies!
  
  Some people think that Lemmy should be more like 4chan. Downvotes are Life and all that.
  wdym? 4chan infamously doesn't have a ratings system, things are posted chronologically, and the currency is how many triggered idiots you can get to respond to your bait posts, rather than upvotes or downvotes. Which is why the platform tends to be edgy, and contrarian, and full of attention begging half-wits. Rather than devolving into echo chambers, and people posting like 10 inside baseball lowest common denominator references to a TV show's joke, where they just play out a bit verbatim, like every fucking reddit, or reddit imitator.
  
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  oh. THAT probably explains all the downvotes to my own comment then, thanks! :-P

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