BREAKING NEWS: Amazon workers around the world on strike [2:45 | Nov 24 2023 | Progressive International]

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I just started delivering for them a few weeks ago and it's decent pay and easy work. In fact I'm scheduled 4 10 hour days of my choosing and I usually get done in 8 but still get paid for 10 hours. $24/hr.
I don't know if I just work out of a good location but like 90% of what that video said is bullshit... and our location definitely is not striking.
Like the video hammered on carbon footprint, meanwhile Amazon is completely converting its fleets to electric vehicles. I'm in one right now, on my lunch break, typing this.
Feel free to AMA. Dumbass people downvoting because reality doesn't align with your misguided, counterfeit morally superior anger. Nothing says removed like downvoting without engaging.
- You've worked there for... a few weeks? And you're declaring that the reasons for the strike are bullshit? Bless your heart and good luck being exploited.
  
  I always think my new jobs are so great at first, then some bullshit always happens to remind me how it is still just another job
- I never did delivery but I was a packer running 4 10s at 14 an hour and god it was unbelievably unbearable. I constantly had to hold my piss and the job was so boring just standing there in a line, unable to listen to music or even talk to your neighbors most of the time without getting a talking from your manager. Seriously worst job I ever had, if I was still working there damn right I'd be out there striking.
  Delivery must be a much nicer department than packing. Also I know for a fact the strikes are real I have a friend in it currently.
  
  Why the fuck would they not let you talk to people around you? How does making you miserable increase productivity?
  I imagine music, if it’s on headphones, might be some kind of safety hazard.
  I would think a good manager might allow a speaker at a reasonable volume, provided a group in the area will not complain about the music choices of others. Then you have arguments the manager has to deal with. So I might understand the reason for that policy.
  EDIT maybe you give each person an hour to play the music they want. At their station, on their device.
  
  You aren't allowed to have any electronic devices, they are crazy about not letting anyone record things or show the outside world what it looks like inside the warehouses. Something about a 'state of the art' conveyor system.
  So no phones, watches, jewelry of any type. Also wasn't allowed to have super baggy clothes or big jackets.
  
  Schindler’s List, alternate universe.
  
  I can't comment on packing, only driving, but I think it's a sweet gig.
  
  Shill
  
  Genuine question, do you or your family buy things on Amazon? Have to be pretty stupid to call someone a shill that works for them. Next time your Amazon delivery driver drops off a package for you, how about you run out there and scream at them for being a shill, you fucking moron. Because that's what you're doing right now.
  
  You're a shill because you have no problem defending Amazons shitty actions but when someone mentions how shit their position was you say "can't comment". Not even sympathetic just pure indifference towards your fellow workers. The hallmark trait of a corporate shill is the lack of solidarity towards your fellow workers
  
  So what is the point of getting angry and name calling here? Why did you copy paste this multiple times? This whole situation is skeptical here, I leave a reasonable reply and come back a few hours later and it's madness in here, or perhaps it was already and I didn't notice.
  But real talk here, you said 24 and hour for truck driving? Can anyone tell me if that's a normal price?
  
  c&p
  
  I do agree that people need to put their money with where their mouth is if they think amazon is an unethical company, and I think it's a good thing to call it out.
  
  And go where? Walmart? Kroger? There's literally nowhere better for most of us.
  
  I'm really sorry to hear that. I know we're both trying my best, I guess I just have more options where I am
  
  what's alternative
  
  What do mean? Just anywhere else, literally just do a web search that reads like "cordless vacuum" -amazon and click around.
  
  how do you find ethical alternative
  
  Oh hi, sour. Didn't notice it was you.
  Just do your best. Search about what you care about and click and read around the internet. ethicalconsumer.org looks like a decent reference for brands. And here's the first result for a search for "ethical alternatives to amazon."
  Yeah some brands or places will disappoint you, but you live and learn and continue. I just pretend it's the 90s. It's not like I was starving, or couldn't find games to play, or movies to watch back then. I just couldn't press a button have the world brought to my door. It was fine. And there were fewer billionaires.
  PS my links are geared to what I'm interested in. YMMV, so like maybe the eco stuff takes a backseat to the ethical treatment of workers for you, and that's cool
- Dumbass people downvoting because reality doesn’t align with your misguided anger.
  At the time of my reply your comment is only 7 minutes old and you have no downvotes. Very weird thing to try to preempt.
  
  If you're viewing from Kbin, you can only see downvotes from other Kbin users. If a user from another instance downvotes it, it will not show up unless you view the post on the original instance.
  
  I had like -5 in 5 minutes with no replies.
  
  It's cause you're a shill
  
  Genuine question, do you or your family buy things on Amazon? Have to be pretty stupid to call someone a shill that works for them. Next time your Amazon delivery driver drops off a package for you, how about you run out there and scream at them for being a shill, you fucking moron. Because that's what you're doing right now.
  
  appeal to hypocrisy
- Lol shilling for the biggest company in the world for $24 an hour? Calling people removed for calling out your bullshit? Fucking shameless lack of dignity. I can't imagine someone being this much of a dumbass, thinking your anecdotal evidence means anything when we have so much verifiable, proven scumfuckery from amazon. Piss bottles on shelves? Warehouse workers being locked in during storms?
  
  No one called out my bullshit, neither have you? Everything I said was factual.
  Lol shilling for the biggest company in the world for $24 an hour?
  Let me ask you something, do you buy things from Amazon? If the answer is yes, then the hypocrisy is off the charts.
  
  The cheapest 1BR apartment within a 40-minite drive of my local Amazon distribution center is about $1700/month, and they require you to make triple your rent in order to apply to live there.
  So until every worker is making at least 60 grand a year they aren't being paid a living wage here.
  
  your bullshit is defending big company
- Source: Trust me bro
  
  You should see the account history, lol - it's pretty much ALL "trust me bro" and anyone who factually calls them out on their shit gets told they're an idiot, a moron, a "dumb dumb," etc.
  Give it a minute, the "you're an idiot" replies are incoming . . .
  
  Dumbass people downvoting
  That counts, we have a winner!
  
  Since you went into my comment history, I would really love for you to actually provide a valid counter to something you think I am incorrect on... because I can assure you, that "trust me bro" will be backed up by factual evidence if you enter a discussion with me. The only thing I can think of offhand is someone I talked about Linux with, who was most definitely wrong. And I can educate you on the topic if you care for it.
  If you're not afraid of being embarrassed, please... please make a valid counter to something I've said that you disagree with. Otherwise, you with the deflective counter, "trust me bro," position is a bit hypocritical, don't you think?
  Personally, I have too much integrity for someone to call me out to be a hypocrite, or not to enter a factual based discussion. We'll see how much you regard yourself in the like manner. Because I'm calling you a hypocrite right now.
  
  Your source is what? Some dumbass video? Lmao.
  
  A source for what? I didn't make any claims, unlike you.
  
  rude ..
- You're assuming that your reality is the same for everyone.
  
  No, I'm actually not, I'm stating what I know for a fact.
  
  Stating your "fact" as if it's fact for everyone. That's why you're being called out, bro. Your asserting your individual singular experience as universal truth.
  
  Genuine question, do you or your family buy things on Amazon? Have to be pretty stupid to call someone a shill that works for them. Next time your Amazon delivery driver drops off a package for you, how about you run out there and scream at them for being a shill, you fucking moron. Because that's what you're doing right now.
  
  Jesus christ I hope you get some help for your actual mental illness, bro. This lovel of dissonance and lashing out is not healthy or normal.
- misguided, counterfeit morally superior anger
  you could also say "workers should just be happy with what they have."
  nothing says removed like...
  wait, I thought we were the angry ones
- I just started delivering for them a few weeks ago
  Lol
- Your personal experience doesn’t matter when people that have much more experience than you and actually understand what's happening in the company tell you.
  You’re just too stupid to know, Dunning-Kruger effect here.
  I can give plenty of examples of bad employment practices working at Amazon. Your one little example is literally meaningless.
  lt;
  
  You’re just too stupid to know, Dunning-Kruger effect here.
  In what way am I wrong? I'm willing to hear out your counters. If you have none, then that "Dunning-Kruger effect here," applies to you.
  
  you think logical fallacies are valid
- Found a scab!
- why is on fediverse if corporate scab ..
  also who upvote
- There’s things you can talk about on here and there’s things that you can’t. If you mention that you like Amazon, everybody that has no clue about anything and that just reads articles with no real experience anywhere will down vote you. With that said I hope this strike works out for them. Anybody have the actual numbers? Hundreds or thousands definitely ain’t enough.
  
  Honestly, Lemmy seems worse than reddit, people actually just upvote and downvote based on feels instead of facts. Or things that sound good regardless of accuracy. Probably going to be done with it. Too many idiots here.
  
  Good, get the fuck out of here, shill.
  
  Genuine question, do you or your family buy things on Amazon? Have to be pretty stupid to call someone a shill that works for them. Next time your Amazon delivery driver drops off a package for you, how about you run out there and scream at them for being a shill, you fucking moron. Because that's what you're doing right now.
  
  repeatedly replying with this identical comment didn't help your case at all. it further makes you look like a bot.
  also your knee jerk reaction isn't doing your position any favors. obviously some people have ok experiences working for Amazon otherwise no one would do it. but I think the majority and systemic issue of poor treatment is pretty clear at this point. and while you may not have direct experience of this it would be considerate to recognize that most do and deserve whatever support we can spare.
  
  I'm more cracking up at his whole "if you use amazon but also complain about it you're a fucking dumbass idiot fuckwad moron blah blah removed"
  Ignoring that there literally is no ethical consumption under capitalism anymore. My choices for shopping are amazon or Walmart because nowhere else is affordable. You can't vote with your wallet anymore. That's WHY strikes and supporting workers are so important, and that's why this dumbass is actually a fucking asshole piece of shit.
  
  It has been pretty rough when it comes to talking about anything of any significance. You have first hand experience that should mean something. These people read an article and it somehow means more. A real downer especially running your own instance in the fediverse.
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faultygeneralization#Hastygeneralization
  
  When you work at Amazon you have a shit load of coworkers.
  
  how much of amazon consists of one's coworkers
  
  It’s true that one facility can’t account for others. I’d be curious to see real evidence all around the globe for the god awful treatment you read about. It just really is hard to believe after having worked there with seeing the utmost respect all around for the most part and safety pushed like a motherfucker (annoyingly so honestly). The complaints I was always involved in were lazy fellow coworkers and wanting more pay. I’m around $40/hr right now and still want more pay. You should always want more pay. You should also work your way up to it. Amazon provides tons of tools for educating yourself and leaving the company to head to an entirely different field. That’s what I did. If you’re going to be a replaceable baseline employee you need to treat it like a stepping stone and use everything they provide and leave. Or work your way up in the company and become irreplaceable.
  
  workers shouldn't be replacable in the first place
  
  Yeah I get it we all want a fluffy, soft wonderful place to live in, but if you’re working a job that basically requires zero training, you are replaceable by default, and a robot will be taking over in the future. In some cases they already have. The one I worked at they had two giant, robotic arms that built pallets of totes and wrapped them. Four years ago.
  
  i didn't say they weren't replacable
  
  an
  
  You have first hand experience that should mean something.
  You would think, right? At the very least, generate a discussion instead of people just downvoting me and calling me a scab, or telling me that my first hand experience isn't a proper source because some online video told them otherwise... yeah, I think I've had enough of it. Initially I thought Lemmy was better than reddit, or that it was like reddit when it first started, when genuine discussion was to be had, but it really isn't... it's the same shit as reddit today, just with less people on it.

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