1y ago

Next smartphone I buy, which one do you recommend?

Things that make me angry about my current smartphone Samsung Galaxy S21Ultra on a Verizon plan is the mandatory software updates in which they install WITHOUT MY PERMISSION stupid apps like Netflix and addictive gambling games and stacking block games and Candy crush. God knows what else they install without my permission. I don't want any of it!

Next phone I buy I want to start with a clean slate, I'm not going to affiliate with any conglomerate like Verizon or AT&T or Sprint or T-Mobile etc, I prefer to go rogue somehow,

which smartphone do you recommend that has no bloatware and it's customizable?

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Google Pixel with GrapheneOS.
- I keep seeing this idea everywhere. Buy a Google phone and install another OS.
  It is completely absurd to fund the exact adversaries you are running away from, while consuming, without contributing a dime, merely a piece of free software. (It is only a small piece of freedom because none of the hardware is free, and some binary blobs [incl. potential backdoors] will still be present in the alternative OS no matter which one it is.)
  This is unsustainable, terrible, damaging advice. Stop giving it.
  
  Well, the only viable alternative then seems to be some sort of Linux phone, then.
  
  Fairphone, Librem, PinePhone, f(x)tec, etc. are available alternatives, yes.
  Even a OnePlus is better than directly funding and supporting the adversary organisation that is one of the biggest surveillance capitalism corporations on earth.
  
  Fair point, I suppose the only thing preventing me from going for Linux phone are banking apps which want to run on unrooted android. 🤷🏼‍♂️
  
  The bottom line is that GrapheneOS is the most security-focused mobile operating system available, and the Google Pixel is pretty well the only mainstream phone with an unlockable bootloader.
  If Alphabet were to ever lock down the Pixel's bootloader, the GOS devs would undoubtedly jump ship to a lesser available platform in order to continue the project. But until then, no other hardware comes close with respect to embedded security.
  
  Buy a pixel off marketplace then. You can brag about saving e-waste.
  Google isn't a bad company, just a product of poor regulation. They have amazing engineers and produce valuable hardware and that should be praised.
  Its the business side of things which needs massive regulation and an ethics check.
  
  It is not about "bragging" or whatever. Nor is it about "bad" or "good".
  By funding or promoting the use of Google products, you would be funding litigation and influence such as lobbying to keep poor regulation as it is, if not worse. You would be funding their acquisitions of great tech and startups that might offer a more ethical and/or free technology. You would be funding their poaching of said engineers and valuable hardware intellectual property.
  Simply put, it is a counterproductive and an unsustainable practice.
  That being said, their amazing engineers, and technical value of their hardware are irrelevant to this community, post and comment. That simply doesn't excuse their entire business model being built on breaches of privacy and other forms of curbing user freedoms.
- Im going to do this and leave every social media except some federated instances.
  Already went with Linux and FOSS years ago. Finally time to say good riddance to everything that doesnt align for what I stand for. I like it better anyway

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