1y ago

Americans of Lemmy, what is your approach to next year's election?

2020 was... truly unique. It was so hard to stay away from doom scrolling, and I (and many others) were pretty disillusioned by the sad fact that so much of our country legitimately supported the Orange Man. I didn't get a wink of sleep the night of the election because I genuinely considered it to be a make or break decision for America.

My point is that looking back on it, in the end the only real difference I made was at the ballet box. This year I'm going for the Head-in-the-Sand approach. I'm done with the political memes. Done with the Twitter screenshots. It just riles me up and this year I'm gonna do my best to fight that.

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Well my choices are backslide slowly by voting dem, maybe buying enough time to get out of the country safely in the next few years, or risk being federally persecuted for being trans. So I'm going to dissociate through the whole thing and hopefully won't be able to remember voting for fucking Biden. Outside the election I do what I can to support actual leftist movements but until any of them have a chance to win against the fascists on ballots I'm team 'slightly better of two shitty choices'. I just want to be left alone to garden I hate all of this
- Come on out down voters, I'd love to hear you attempt to explain why I'm making a bad decision
  
  I downvoted you because of this comment. Does that help?
  
  I appreciate you thank you
  
  Didn't downvote you but the only difference I've seen and heard about as far as how things are going for minorities is when there's a dem president libs tell minorities to stfu because they're making them look bad.
  When there's a republican president libs pretend to support blm, when there's a dem president libs tell them they're secretly republican russians.
  Try telling a lib the concentration camps on the border are still a problem and you'll get a lecture about how it's a way more compassionate concentration camp now.
  
  I ended up writing a way bigger response than I set out to, politics...
  So my minority view is only from being trans I don't fall into other categories, I'm only talking from that view and obviously can't speak for other groups. From my end of things Biden has undone a lot of the particularly wild stuff Trump did and is even throwing us the occasional scrap of protection. It isn't great but I can't say nothing has gotten better. I will say most of the stuff that has gone well is on pretty shaky ground and the next repub we get will gut all of it in a second.
  Yeah Biden and dems in general are just so bad. Liberals are frustrating and definitely think the scraps I've gotten have solved everything and I should stop complaining. I hate it, I wish we had another choice. But that just isn't where we are at so between Trump or every dem I've seen I'm going for the dems. They only have my back so far as will poll well with libs but that's better than Trump who is actively attacking me and empowering others to do the same.
  I don't think this system can be fixed by voting for third party at this time. All that does is light a vote on fire that could have gone toward the less bad of two bad options. I do think it can be fixed or improved, slowly, by building a movement for a third party with enough traction to start getting into local offices. My hope is from there those people can push for local change that makes it easier to vote outside dem/repub which sets the scene for doing it on the big scale. That's only possible given time and repubs are clear they're done fucking around and we will not be given a chance for that under their rule.
  
  Yea I'm in a small town so I'm aware how rabid and bloodthirsty the chuds are.
  I'm not voting for Biden but I also live in New York so I'm privellaged to have the option to do that meaningless protest.
  I thunk your spot on with thenlocala support, generally just vote for whoever the working families party candidate is even though 90% of the time it's the same person as the dem candidate but it's a good way to weed out the chuds that just run as dems because this is new york.
  
  Because Biden's shitty fucking policies got half my family locked up for trying to keep their seed fed on bids anywhere from five to thirty, typically on some mandatory-minimum bullshit; the other half can't get jobs under his "booming economy"; and the fact that he's cosigning a fucking genocide of one of the few peoples in the world to be as brutally colonized as the Black diaspora in Occupied America. You're smoking meth if you think I'm going act like what you're doing is worth uplifting or even cosigning.
  You already are supporting a fascist if you haven't divested by now-- but I don't expect you to get that.
  
  First off, I appreciate the response this is what I was hoping for instead of just downvotes.
  No I distinctly don't think what I'm doing is worth uplifting I think it is a bad situation and I'm doing what I hope makes it worse more slowly than my other options. Biden is a piece of shit I know that, and I'm being affected by the "booming economy" too it's a bunch of lies. My company is about to fire a huge chunk of people I might be in there, and even if I'm not I'll have to watch as my friends lose their jobs.
  "keep their seed fed on bids anywhere from five to thirty, typically on some mandatory-minimum bullshit" I don't know what this means could you explain?
  What are you doing this election? What can we do to get out of this situation? Why do you believe in your choice at the ballot? I'd rather not vote for Biden but I also believe until things are changed from local up, voting third party is the same as not voting in the sense that it puts the decision in other people's hands, and I'm super not voting for Trump.

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