Most of us hate Microsoft, and yet many of us use VSCode

I get that it's open source provided you use codium not code but I still find that interesting

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VSCode is an open source IDE. Its biggest rival is the JetBrains suite. When the alternatives are proprietary, VSCode is a win.
- VScode isn't foss. It just contains some open source code.
  
  It contains mostly open source code. The proprietary binary MS distributes adds very little proprietary stuff to it. You can use the open source version Code - OSS just fine or use VSCodium which is based on that
  
  Interesting, how do you get this Code-OSS?
  
  If you're on Linux, you can download it as a flatpak or if you're on arch through the package manager. Maybe it's also in the repositories of other distros but I can't check that. I also have no idea how to download it on Windows. I would recommend getting VSCodium anyway though. It's also available as a flatpak, in the AUR and on their website for Windows.
  
  If I was going to use it I would use VScodium.
  How do you know what's in VScode? Its still proprietary.
  
  I mean, that's what I'm doing
- Most of Jetbrain's tools have community editions as well.
  
  The community editions are still proprietary, and they put the most useful tools behind the paywall.
  
  VScode is proprietary as well.
  
  PyCharm community is amazing.
- Have you tried any of the JetBrains products, they are great.
  
  I did for a few years. Eventually I had to switch to VSCode because any given Jetbrains product is only good at a single language, and constantly switching Jetbrains products is a nightmare. Now that I've been using VSCode for a while, there are some extension that are so critical to my workflow Jetbrains is virtually useless to me without them.
  
  You're the second person to say this and it's just wrong. With the Ultimate Edition, you can install the plugins for whichever languages you want and stick to a single editor without switching.
  
  Yeah, I mean, if it works better for you, then good on you 😎 I mostly just stick to Python and Terraform. I used their GoLand IDE for a while, it was nice. What extensions are ya using? I've seen a lot of embedded folks really like VSCode.
  
  Most extensions have good equivalents. Other languages like Julia are VSCode only. Fortran was the language that really made me jump ship, PyCharm's Fortran extension is barely syntax highlighting. Remote - SSH is the killer though, it is a beautifully made and essential tool for working with remote systems.
  Most importantly, PyCharm doesn't really have any killer features or extensions that makes it essential.
  
  Yeah, their extensions are okay, but it's mostly what you get in the box. The remote SSH is sooo nice, I use it everyday for PowerShell from my Mac to Windows boxes. Yeah, I definitely get that for something like Fortran. I used to do LUA a ton back in the day, and it was the only good IDE for it.
  
  Have you tried JetBrains Fleet yet?
  
  The jetbrains default hotkeys is in direct conflict to the "typical defaults" for hotkeys you see in the world
  
  I know, they have keymaps for everything, including a VIM map and vim mode!
  
  Defaults are very important.
  
  I had a job that required me to use JetBrains. I would've preferred to use VSCode.

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