1y ago

Defediverse

EDIT: no, I don't sympathize with nazis (neither I sympathize with those who call everyone nazi when they're losing an argument ;)

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I literally just left sh.itjust.works because they federated with hexbear.
I'd rather an instance defederate with a toxic instance than have to switch instances in order to avoid said toxic instance.
But apparently sh.itjust.works doesn't care about it's users wants despite the majority wanting to defederate.
- Just change instances. Who tf cares if you switch or not lol.
  
  he did you dummy
- So the solution is to just kick people we disagree with off all the mainstream platforms and ensure they go to their own echo chambers where they are isolated from any reasonable counters to their ideology, which will just ultimately make the problem worse? Brilliant.
  It’s like the war on drugs. If we just ban it then surely the problem will disappear…except it just gets worse.
  How can people be this shortsighted?
  
  They're already isolated in their own echo chambers. Have you ever actually tried arguing with these people? You might as well argue with a religious person about how their faith is bullshit. They don't listen they just scream and throw a tantrum while insulting you the whole time.
  
  I have argued with them a lot in person and online. Yeah, most of the time it is futile. Every now and then it’s not. You ever hear of that black guy who makes friends with KKK members? Sometimes they give up their bullshit and they become friends. I will accept the risk of having futile arguments with many if there is a chance that logic and reason breaks through to a few.
  
  Well you have my respect but I don't have that kind of willpower. I'd rather just not deal with them at all.
  
  Cheers. Not everyone has the constitution to engage, and that’s fine. I do not think hate should be tolerated, but I think it must be confronted with reason. The only alternatives seem to be more isolation, extremism, and violence.

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