Critical support for the Lemmy world peeps in their fight against pro-intellectual property nerds

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To be fair, you pirates always look like starving entitled whiny bastards. You want everything free in life and feel like you have the right and duty to take it from others. You can't pay even $5 for a fucking game? Lmao you obviously can but choose to be a parasite and not to.
And before you come here telling me that it's not stealing and these aren't physical items, what I mean is that you're actively hurting honest businesses and small artist. You're taking thier products, making exact copies of it and then distributing them freely. You're not competing economically making your own product, you're just leeching off from someone else's hard work and then killing any opportunity they could have of profiting from it.
Y all act like selling is something bad, but I have news for you: That's how the world works! People need to buy food, pay rent and pay bills, and they're not doing it by just making things free
- Imagine being this much of a fucking square.
  
  I haven't heard someone call a person a square in a long time.
- Found bungiefan's new alt name
  Get a life dude
  
  Marathon was really unique and I know Halo has a lot of fans, but the far end of the Bungie fandom licks a lot of boots.
  
  Joined 6 hours ago, I'd be willing to bet money that they're the same person.
- Paypigs are pathetic. Imagine forking over money to some corporate publisher to "support the artist" . Want to support independent artists/creators? It's called commissions and donations(patreon, kofi, etc.)
- you're just leeching off from someone else's hard work
  so are the people profiting from said work. the owners of the business keep the revenue, they don't give it to the people who did the hard work.
  
  The people who did the work are employees, and they're paid according to the task they perform. Companies get a share obiusly, because that's the business model, they're the ones who have to put in place a workplace, assemble a team, acquire resources and so on
  
  justifying the expropriation of surplus value through tired liberal platitudes - it's almost like someone wrote a book 200 years ago explaining in gratuitous detail why you're wrong.
  
  because that's the business model, they're the ones who have to put in place a workplace, assemble a team, acquire resources and so on
  Bootlickers like you also make this claim to justify insulin having thousands of percent markup from the cost of manufacture.
  
  Its just the business model for leeches at the top to siphon off all the value created by peopoe who actually do the work. This is why pirating is so awful. Think of the C-suite overlords and shareholders!!!!
- And I have news for YOU. I WILL keep on supporting the piracy of unoptimised, incomplete garbage games, that use the preorders as beta testers, famous examples being Gollum and Cyberpunk 77. In comparison, I see no problem paying for quality games like Skyrim, or games that have fixed their issues, like Shadow of War removing the microtransactions and fixing most of the bugs. But crap like Gollum (the game, I have a sort of respect and pity for the character) has no place on my system, even if I had Duck Tales money, even if I had a 2 TB RAM, multiple 4090s or whatever the latest overpriced Nvidia crap is, and the latest, most powerful, server level CPUs, with like 128 cores or something, I still wouldn't buy and play this garbage. Alright?
  I velieve rhis shpuld be done to teach the lazy bastards in management in those game companies, that if you want good sales, you have to take things a bit slower and poliah the product out. Unfortunately, it seems that they don't give a fuck, because Denuvo protects their games during the first few months of sales, when they make a profit on the garbage they've made. Then they do some bug fixing and move on to the next cash cow. That's how the gaming industry works. And I don't know about you, but I do NOT want to support this mess.
  
  You're not making any sense dude, are you a masochist or what? You so vehemently say how bad, unfinished, unpolished and garbage these games are and yet you go out of your way to pirate them and play them, even if you hate it and rant about how you wouldn't install them even if you had a quantum pc.
  Also, you pirates argue that pirating doesn't really affect companies, that once you decide not to buy thier stuff pirating doesn't make any difference, so how that would "teach them"?. To me, seems like a childish way to get back at them then, you know you're doing nothing and yet you choose to do so. So irrational and ridiculous.
  That's what I hate about you pirates, you HAVE to consume no matter what, even if it's crap you don't even like, who is the greedy one, companies or you that steal just to munch on trash?
  
  just to munch on trash?
  You're the toxic Bungie fan. These days, munching trash is your job!
  
  Nah. They become not-trash when they get the bugs fixed. With what I'm doing I'm hoping to send a message that this way of doing things sucks!
- I don't care.
- To be fair
  Already a
  opener, right up there with "um," and "hate to break it to you, but"
  entitled
  Some day sucking all that shoe polish off of corporate footwear will pay off and you will wear the boot! Keep at it, treat defender!
  
  but I have news for you
  Your refractory period must have passed because you're doing the
  thing again in the same post.
  That's how the world works!
  You may need to hydrate, have more Vitamin E, and possibly have a burn clinic on speed dial with all that mental masturbation you're doing here.
- And you'd do the same, if you could.
  Your boss steals every day from you. Corporations steal every day from us. Why are we supposed to act like docile sheep?
  
  What do they steal? They pay me my fair share, people who agree to do jobs underpaid is because they're fucking stupid and don't know to take good gigs. Either that or the my get a fair pay but they just are greedy and want more without doing any more work
  
  If you really think, you get a fair share, you're naive or trolling.
  Every profit your company pays to shareholders is fruit of your labor stolen from you. And if you can't see that, you're exactly the kind of docile worker they want.
  BTW: it's typical for types like you to look down upon the lower class as stupid and lazy. That's a way for you to feel empowered in the face of the inherent unfairness of the system. And you can ignore, that you're being fucked just like the others. You just get a cushion for your elbows, so it's slightly more comfortable.
  
  Every profit my company pays to shareholders is part of my labor, that's how it works, I her a cut to work on a bigger entity than me, where I can profit form labor me alone couldn't and we both get our part.
  The system isn't fair, if I work I get money. Lower class exist because they're not as prepared or educated as the rest or because they don't want to work. So I don't know what problems are you talking about
  
  We're living in a world that's actively killing the planet and lets literally millions of people die of starvation in the name of profit and your answer is "guess they weren't educated enough"...
  You are the problem. Your blindness, lack of empathy, lack of education or simply stupidity, I don't know. But you are the problem.
- Stealing rules hope this helps
- When I am able to pay content creators directly, I do. I am not a pirate, myself, though I have pirated in the past. I think some of the rationale behind pirating derives from intolerance of anti-consumer practices. If I'm paying for a streaming service, I shouldn't be forced to watch ads. If I'm paying for a game, there shouldn't be day one DLC-gated content, especially if that content is already part of the game and the DLC does little more than unlock it (I'm looking at you Bioware).
  Pirating isn't always about stealing for the sake of using or watching something for free. It can be about that, sure, but it isn't always. Often, it's about punishing entities for bad practices---for treating customers unfairly, for instance, or for restricting access to content.
  And usually the people who make decisions that negatively affect customers are removed from the creation of the content itself. It's kind of sad, really.
  
  Voting with your wallet is valid and understandable, I have no issues when someone refuse to buy products from a brand they don't like for any reason.
  But, for pirates isn't enough to just not buy, they have to consume the product either way even if, by their words, is a garbage mess, bad service or whatever. They like to trash talk about games or shows or anything and yet they go out of thier way to pirate.
  Also, according to them, when you pirate a game you're not hurting the company, because you already make the decision to not buy the product, so pirating it doesn't make any difference. So how that would that punish any entity then? It's so incoherent
  
  I think you may have misunderstood: sometimes the intent is to hurt a company. I believe that sometimes it can be entirely morally justifiable.
- Lol I hardly think that companies like EA or Microsoft are "honest businesses" or "small artist[s]", fuckers have made billions of dollars through their anticompetitive monopolistic bullshit.
- Nobody's pirating $5 games. People pirate price-gouge-tastic games from billion-dollar corporations that cost hundreds if not thousands of dollars in total, and are designed to exploit players' psychological weaknesses (like gambling addiction or childhood naïveté) to extract far more money from them than a reasonable adult would be willing to pay. They also ruin the experience of their own products with high-overhead DRM like Denuvo, which pirates remove. These are not honest businesses, they are extremely profitable despite widespread piracy, and they do not require or deserve your sympathy.

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