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Leaked documents claim 'US wants to convince four countries to quit EU' in bid to 'Make Europe Great Again'

www.lbc.co.uk Leaked documents claim 'US wants to convince four countries to quit EU' in bid to 'Make Europe Great Again' | LBC

Donald Trump is allegedly attempting to persuade four countries to quit the European Union as part of his plan to “Make Europe Great Again.”

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(a) absolutely it was known that Putin wanted trump to win because that would weaken America and strengthen Russia
Most likely true, but doesn't give Putin influence over Trump.
and (b) the people you mention that would have stopped it all really like an extreme right wing government.
True, right wing, for their interests. If Russia would control Trump they would have pushed the Democrats.
You mean it was wrong, but you don’t accept that word when used about you.
It was wrong.
No, confiscating Russian assets did not destroy the EU banking sector
Yet. It just happened.
he wouldn’t be eligible to be US president
That's a strawman.
You’re increasingly openly taking Putin’s side
I am questioning a central assumption. But that's all. If I say that Putin doesn't have the assumed influence means taking Putin's side, then you can notice how important that assumption is to you.
- Sigh. The EU banking sector is not destroyed and seizing Russian assets did not destroy it. That's what Putin wants to be true, and it's what he gas announced to be true, by Putin is no more truthful than trump is.
  That’s a strawman.
  Lol, it was you who made it! I said trump is under Putin's influence and you said that this or that group would never allow Putin to take over. Putin doesn't need to take over when his deputy is already running the country and destroying a lot of what America stood for during my lifetime.
  
  would never allow Putin to take over. Putin doesn’t need to take over when his deputy is already running the country
  I mean that Trump is no deputy with not 'taking over'.
  If trump would be a deputy, the elections would have been pushed in different directions.
  
  I don't see why. People took a fairly partisan view over whether it was true that trump had Russian help in the election and I think trump is right that he would get away with shooting someone in the street and his base would still support him. I don't think being in the Epstein files is what's hurting him, it's not releasing them. I think it has embarrassed him to have given a blowjob to "bubba" but I don't think it has harmed his rating.
  
  The billionaires would have pushed a different candidate and Trump would have never been elected. The ads are one thing, but the reporting is the important part. If the newspapers and networks had focussed on another candidate, that candidate would have won.
  
  That's just restating your conclusion, not explaining why. What on earth have oligarchs and plutocrats to fear from the russian oligarchy form of government being installed in the USA by putin's man trump? Further wealth? Uncurbed power and influence? No, they fear none of this. Consequences are for the little people.
  
  How do billionaires have influence on Trump if he is installed by Putin? They already have uncurbed power. They would lose that if Putin got involved.
  In Europe, Putin would love to sell gas, as do American billionaires. Only one can have the profits or they have to share.
  
  I love how hard you try to convince me of things that I know you know that I know are false.
  You started off "but when did I ever day anything incorrect?" by now it's just one big bullshit factory!
  Which part of tax breaks for rich people are you struggling to understand?
  
  The part where Putin can offer anything to the billionaires.
  
  Via trump, because that's the whole thing.
  
  Why would the US billionaires accept a middle man? They own the newspapers and networks to decide the election. Why accept Trump if they can have their own candidate?

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