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Politicians Will Not Save Us.

Grassroots organization will save us.

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If you don't want it to be Newsom, you have 2 years to organize and make it someone else.
- Wait, wouldn't it just be way easier to spend that entire time insufferably removed about everything and criticizing everyone's faults and then just voting for him in the end anyway?
  
  don't you mean, not voting at all?
  
  Isn’t it likely in your opinion that if it isn’t for whoever you decide is best it’s the same thing?
  
  No
  
  That’s good. The Dems won’t be getting any more of my votes
  
  Yeah the difference is the people who vote for Trump will kill me with their vote out of stupidity, and/or maliciousness. Those who do not vote will kill me simply to feel superior to those who vote.
  
  Those who do not vote will kill me simply to feel superior to those who vote.
  They are privileged to not need a sense of urgency or get respite. Its easy to keep your sense of purity and wait around when your not under siege.
  
  Yup, the "none of this will get worse FOR ME" crowd who dismiss the idea that everything else will be worse, likely even the situations they "care" about, but they aren't actually affected by. No sense of harm reduction when the harm isn't upon you, yet.
  
  It’s nice y’all have each other! One good tug deserves another…
  
  it's nice that other people's voting habits aren't going to literally kill you. Have fun on that high horse, I am sure slowly, and painfully, dying, was worth your sense of superiority. Though, I doubt you believe this is a fatal turn of events for me. Privilege blinds people.
- Putting the onus on me to find someone is all well and good, but are you really OK with settling for Newsom?
  Why don't we look together for someone more palatable?
  
  Why don't we look together for someone more palatable?
  And we should. I often talk about this on Lemmy. But many of my fellow lemms and lefties here would rather just skip out on the work it takes yo build a movement. Then they wonder why they aren't seriously represented.
  
  Owning my shit…what I’m working on involves burning this fraudulent system, reeducation, and ditching private property and capitalism. Your next blue fool will never be a step towards that. This neoliberal fauxmockracy is most of the problem, not the popular fools they put on ballots.
  
  Your next blue fool will never be a step towards that.
  Its rather privileged of you to not see why harm minimization is important. In many casese that is all that will be possible.
  Like I said in my comments, building a movement takes time and even agreed with you that we should work together, yet you hit me with this dismissive reply. I'm already trying to work with you and you're shutting down before starting. Do you wonder why you don't have any coalition after decades?
  
  I live on and off the streets and have my entire life. I love that privilege. It’s awfully privileged of you to make assumptions about myself and my day to day conditions. Could we perhaps stick to the issues? I want actual material conditions to improve. Point me to a blue fool who’s worked towards that in my lifetime (c. 1970). Gavin ‘criminalize homelessness’ Newsom? Yeah, I’ll work on my own ‘harm minimization’ thank you. The system is working as designed but you keep working on reforming the blue chews! I don’t expect to form any coalitions with them because I’m not trying. In my opinion ‘the left’ starts at a rejection of capitalism which is antithetical to these corporate owned neolib figureheads. But I’m just an old poor with no safety net, what do I know?
  
  The material conditions are that the revolution isn't happening simultaneously. Even as our progressive movement grows not everyone will have one to vote for. A blue fool is still a lot better than a red one.
  I don’t expect to form any coalitions with them because I’m not trying.
  Well I rest my case, but remember that next time no one wants to work with you on any given topic and your wondering why no one has a platform you like (even in part)
  
  I DO NOT THINK WORKING WITH BLUE MAGA-LITE IS A SOLUTION WORTH PURSUING. I KNOW WHY I THINK THAT. I’M NEVER GOING TO BE SETTING AROUND WONDERING. The Revolution has been in the works since 1776, it’s beginning to culminate. Either vote or revolt, I never thought ’d see any progress in my lifetime so things are looking awesome in regards to that. Sorry y’all fucked everything up so much. Vote harder.
- Right back at you self righteous punk, stop preaching and get to work

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