2d ago

Homeowner shoots, kills 2 men in ski masks claiming to be officers, HPD says

www.msn.com /en-us/news/crime/homeowner-shoots-kills-2-men-in-ski-masks-claiming-to-be-officers-hpd-says/ar-AA1L4DEX

The homeowner told police the two men said they were police and claimed they were at the home to serve a warrant.

"[The homeowner] became suspicious, because, you know, they have a ring camera too, and the suspects were saying they had a warrant, but it was just two people and they're masked up and no police cars, no lights or anything like that," said Lt. Khan with HPD.

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If warrantless masked men come to your door, even claiming to be cops or ICE, far as I'm concerned they're fair game. I better see blue lights out front and in no case am I opening the door.
Call the cops right off the bat. Case after case after case demonstrates that he who calls 911 first wins. A mugger can approach you, you pull a gun, gets run off and calls 911 first? You got some splainin' to do Lucy. CALL 911 FIRST.
STFU and grab your weapon. Don't yell or threaten, don't say a word. Prepare to fight and STFU until the cops come. Anything you say in the lead up can be used against you. STFU.
I have a gun within reach anywhere I stand in my house. Sound fruity? Meh, maybe. I got that way after a bear wandered in the dog door. In no case is ICE coming in this house to drag my wife off without a fight. Will I die? Most likely. But they're not getting a free pass.
- Every day, I wake up happy I don't live in the USA. I have to think about none of this. I hope it stays that way.
  
  Yeah, I feel more and more like I won the jackpot being born in Sweden...
  
  My kids 10 and I tell him often to get out when he's old enough, I'll help fund his move to Sweden, Finland, Netherlands, don't give a fuck. Go explore and decide away from this place.
  
  Aside from the grenade murdering.
  
  Yeah I'm just hoping people learn from the US example but I'm afraid too many people don't have the political analysis to connect the dots between a rightward shift in politics and fascism as its natural conclusion.
  
  Be vigilant. I was born in 1971 and never imagined today's America.
  
  As an embarrassed "American" (whatever that means anymore) I fully agree, take me from this place.
- Where do you live? Seriosly, I live in Europe, never been in USA and reading stuff like this I will never ever go in a country where anybody could have a gun. Sometime I forgot to lock my appartment at night, don't own a gun. Simple life. There are thieves but most of the time they don't have a weapon, maybe a knife.
  
  NW Florida, America. No, not everyone can have a gun, and not as many people are armed as you might think. Bear in mind, unusual events get reported, because they are unusual. There are 340,000,000 souls here. It's a big-assed country, weird shit happens.
  And yes, I used to leave my house unlocked all the time. The only reason I started locking up was to keep anyone from stealing my guns. (After the "bear incident".) How's that for irony?
  None the less, I had felt safe leaving my door unlocked, and usually did, but now, with the current political situation and having a brown immigrant wife ...🤷🏻 Doors locked, 12-gauge leaning on the desk, AR-15 resting on the nightstand. But I'm damned thankful to be armed and practiced. Fucking nuts! I never imagined.
  Anyway, I've been in many situations, both in the wild and on the street, mostly in the wild, where I was glad to be armed. Having said that, I've led a life that's a bit more... adventurous, than most Americans. Please do not take my anecdotes to be typical of American life. And please don't take our media reports to be typical.
  
  Uh, europeans have guns too.
  
  Thinking about moving to the Philippines and telling my wife it would be a bummer to never get to shoot again. She looked at me like I grew a second head. LOL, she has a relative that owns a gun store and Filipinos are simply mad for 1911s. Who knew?
  Americans don't have a gun problem. American's have a culture problem.
  
  A Fillipino made 1911 is my overt fav. Inexpensive and fabulously well made. I knew. ;)
- As a very quick amendment to what you have to say, call 911first IF YOU ARE SAFE TO DO SO. Under most circumstances, yeah, you can do that first. Just make sure you or someone else are not in ACTIVE AND IMMEDIATE danger before you call 911
  
  Thank you. I should have said grab your weapon and unsafe it first, then call 911. Can you believe we're having this fucking discussion!?!
  
  Well, yeah, this is always a good thing to remind people. Its not taught enough, honestly.
- Thanks for letting me know that I can rob you if I just flash some blue lights
  
  Missed a bit there hombre!
  and in no case am I opening the door

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