7mo ago

Nina going off today

Cross-posted from "Nina going off today" by @seahorse@midwest.social in !antifascism@midwest.social

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Robbing stores isn't good PR. I'm working with the right to do positive PR for you guys if you ever do anything to a cop or to cop property. I'm pretty good at selling it "as long as they aren't harming peaceful citizens or local businesses. Who the fuck cares if zog has a bad day." Then you have people looting stores and I can't run PR for you on the right. And they look at the news and say, "See, getting the illegals out of here was a good idea."
When people steal stuff the whole movement, even the people not doing it, just becomes propaganda for the other side. What would be increadable PR is if crowds physically prevented looting.
- Maybe we should stop pandering to people who are going to hate us no matter what we do. This is open class warfare, we are waaayyyy past PR battles.
- Human rights are OK to mess with, but don't you dare mess with our capitalism!
  
  There's nothing wrong with human rights but how does harming the lives of innocent people help human rights? It makes it hard to sell to other people you are serious about human rights. Instead you just look like a problem. A problem that motivates leaning on fascism. So when stores get robbed you are making negative ground with anything you want to do.
  
  So our slide into fascism has been caused by protesters robbing businesses and not by fascists inserting themselves into positions of power. How silly of me.
- In a system that values profits over peoples' lives, stealing is a morally good act.
  
  Well you loose the political game when it ends up on TV. You are making negative progress with your political goals because the political will to get rid of what are perceived as "lawless illegals" only increases.
  Is it morally right to loose? Because this is how you loose.
- Won't someone PLEASE think of the inanimate objects?!
- Then you have people looting stores and I can't run PR for you on the right. And they look at the news and say, "See, getting the illegals out of here was a good idea."
  During news coverage of hurricane Helena, when marganalized people availed themselves of foodstuffs, they were called "looters," and when whites did it, they were brave who were caring for their families. I'm not talking about those who took other things, but then, why shouldn't someone have a tv or radio to listen to news?

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