Nooooooo teh LiBz!?1
Nooooooo teh LiBz!?1
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Do you think Capital ever loses in the US?
The US literally started as a rebellion against the capital holders in England you dunce. Plantation owners of the South lost. Robber barons of the 1920s lost. There are countless incidents where does happen even if it's not enough. You need go touch grass if that's a genuine belief you have.
I don’t personally think it can be fixed without first acknowledging
Bullshit. You have zero interest in ever considering anything beyond "America bad".
What reasonable point are you accusing me of ignoring?
There's a post bringing up many that you just shrugged off already eg Dems supporting Lena Khan who made exceptional progress breaking up tech monopolies you clown.
Evil is certainly in the eye of the beholder
And the beholder would have to blind to think you are anything but a disingenuous monster that wants to push policy that hurts people. You're an accelerationist. You are evil.
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So much name-calling in this comment LOL.
The US literally started as a rebellion against the capital holders in England you dunce. (Cheap insult 1)
When Capital holders fight against each other, that's not the same as fighting against Capital. The local ruling class instigated the revolution and richly benefited from its results.
Plantation owners of the South lost.
Yes, I think this is one of the few examples in American history where "assets" (human being slaves in this case) were forcibly repatriated from the ruling class
Robber barons of the 1920s lost.
Yes, I believe that for all his other faults FDR faced down the fascist coup and actually did some progressive policies. The Democratic party has thoroughly squandered that legacy for 70 years
There are countless incidents where does happen even if it's not enough. You need go touch grass if that's a genuine belief you have. (Cheap insult 2)
Can you kindly tell me a substantial policy win that has weakened Capital in the last 70 years?
Bullshit. You have zero interest in ever considering anything beyond "America bad".
So you actually know what I believe and desire? How fascinating
There's a post bringing up many that you just shrugged off already eg Dems supporting Lena Khan who made exceptional progress breaking up tech monopolies you clown. (Cheap insult 3)
Pray tell what tech monopoly did she break up?
And the beholder would have to blind to think you are anything but a disingenuous monster that wants to push policy that hurts people. You're an accelerationist. You are evil.
This is just a lot of projection and backlash. It seems you have literally no idea what I believe or what my policy preferences are, yet you are more than happy to assign me MAXIMUM EVIL in your worldview. Do you think that could be because of the propaganda you have been subjected to your whole life?
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Yeah when they started name calling, it was pretty much over for their argument.
Thanks for sticking up for yours and my point of view. There are many contradictions in our capitalist state, and it seems like people would rather be in denial of it than come to terms with it.
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Hey, thanks for saying I really appreciate it. It was definitely feeling like five on one for a second there. These threads can feel hopeless but it does seem like Capital is losing control of the narrative over the long term
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Yes I'm insulting. I think you're one of the worst people to exist right now. You've made your beliefs abundantly clear and I think your accelerationist beliefs aren't marginally better than white supremacists trying to start a race war. You do indeed support the "MAXIMUM EVIL". That does make you a dunce, a clown, a moron, an idiot. There's few insults that don't apply to you. And here you are moving the goal posts again because you are wrong. And to one so easily proven to someone engaging in genuine discourse. But because you are, again, a disingenuous troll, you're going hide behind your impossible qualifier "substantial". Lena Khan already won substantial wins against tech monopolies. Biden succeeded on limiting overdraft payments to $5 which is getting reversed by Trump, empowered unions, increased spending on enforcing labor laws, etc. Have you heard of the ACA? I'm sure that's still not "substantial" enough for you. And just like Trump, you're accusation is an admission. You are a garbage propagandist.
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Okay, just going to skip over the first part and all the insults and projection. Let's talk policy.
Lena Khan already won substantial wins against tech monopolies.
I couldn't find any evidence of this. I guess at least she tried to stop the Activision Microsoft merger?
Biden succeeded on limiting overdraft payments to $5
Sure, nice little policy win, doesn't even come close to touching the structural issues.
empowered unions, increased spending on enforcing labor laws
Yes, labor power is maybe the only hopeful thing going on in this country right now. Remember when Trump used the power of the federal government to forcefully break a rail strike? Oh wait that was actually Biden
Have you heard of the ACA?
I'm so exceptionally glad you brought this up, it's a perfect example. Which powerful interest in the healthcare industry lost power and money from this bill? All I see in an endless expanse of subsidies that prop up the existing system. If there was a public option included in the bill you might have a leg to stand on but we all know how that went.
I'm sure that's still not "substantial" enough for you.
Well yes, I'm not going to be very impressed with policies that just reinforce existing power structures, or do the right thing directionally but by a tiny amount, easily reversed.
And just like Trump, you're accusation is an admission.
What exactly is my accusation in your view?
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Cool so pretty much what I said would happen. And I'm sure you can figure that last one out if you read just one more sentence. Eat shit tankie I've already given far more attention than you deserve
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There's not really any meat in this comment to respond to. It sounds like you have tired of discussing policy
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