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  • Dude, there were literal happy posts all over the place when Kissinger passed. There are US-critical memes on Lemmy and the Fedi all the time, in addition to those making fun of Russia, China, communism etc. Most people are aware that the US is shit. However they're also aware that the USSR back then and China right now are also huge piles of garbage, politically speaking (country and people sure are nice!).

    Has it ever cross your mind that most people ain't pissed because you're anti-US, but because you're pro-shit?

    • Sigh.... Speaking only for myself, I am anti-Imperialist and pro-labor. I'm against the total dominion of the ruling class over all aspects of life in "The West". I'm against a propaganda apparatus that deceives us into thinking servitude and misery is freedom. I'm against inventing atrocities supposedly committed by adversary states. I'm against thinking that reactionary thought can be defeated without state intervention. If that is pro shit then I am pro shit.

      Have you ever considered that perhaps I once believed exactly as you did but then exposure to media outside of ruling class control here on lemmy "radicalized" me?

    • So cool that you're allowed to criticize the US except you just happen to believe everything it says about everything it actually does so you're never in conflict with it at all ever

      • Nice bogeyman you got there, really polished. You must have worked hard on it.

        • I'm sorry, what do you think a 'boogeyman' is? Do you dipshits just throw darts at a board to pick thought terminating cliches?

          How does the concept of 'boogeyman' relate to the idea that you have never been in a position to learn if you have free speech in the first place, since you never say anything that conflicts with power?

          • damn, you're constructing new bogeymans to punch at an accelerating pace! That increasing efficiency curve gives me some real market liberalism vibes. 📈

            /end joke

            In case you really don't get it, look at what you answered to initially and then ask yourself how your accusation relates to that. You keep accusing others of things to then throw punches at those accusations (the bogeyman) to immediately force the other person into a defensive position, even if those accusations weren't even on-topic. It's a manipulative communication strategy to one-up your perceived 'opponent' in a discussion right from the start. Sadly this is a very common thing to come from political extremists, causing anyone who's aware of this to be even more wary.

            Nobody, absolutely nobody should ever reply to something this toxic as you can only lose. So to reduce the emotional tension you've might caused and show how ridiculous the whole interaction is I'll make fun about you.

            This the only honest explanation you'll get from me about this.

            • Oh thank you I understand now. Asking a westerner to critically examine their views and how society shaped them is a microaggression and I should just let you say whatever the hell you want without pushback even if the product of that is war and the killing of hundreds of thousands of people who otherwise would live. I'm victimizing you :(

              Burgerland chuds should never be put on the defensive. Americans are perfect little angels who are never wrong about anything.

              That increasing efficiency curve gives me some real market liberalism vibes. 📈

              just as an aside, holy shit joke of the year

              so funny wow

        • Tankie alert mate just ignore the comment, block and please move on

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