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Vicinus

@ Vicinus @piefed.zip

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  • The Voting Quota has ruined my workflow

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  • I'm confused on your question.

    Are you saying the post only has one upvote (I see 14 up and 1 down?

    Or are you saying your database only shows them as having used 1 vote? It's a "daily" vote limiter so maybe it reset? Also, they aren't on your instance so you may not be federated with everywhere they used their votes.

    Or are you asking something else?

  • The Voting Quota has ruined my workflow

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  • So looking at Piefed.world (on piefed version: 1.6.27):

    • Average Daily Posts (2026-06-26 -> 2026-07-02): 53.86
    • Average Daily Posts (2026-07-03 -> 2026-07-09): 50.14, (-6.90%)
    • Average Daily Comments (2026-06-26 -> 2026-07-02): 164.57
    • Average Daily Comments (2026-07-03 -> 2026-07-09): 133.29, (-19.01%)

    Sh.itjust.works (Lemmy):

    • Average Daily Posts (2026-06-26 -> 2026-07-02): 131.57
    • Average Daily Posts (2026-07-03 -> 2026-07-09): 79.57, (-39.52%)
    • Average Daily Comments (2026-06-26 -> 2026-07-02): 1244.86
    • Average Daily Comments (2026-07-03 -> 2026-07-09): 1097.86, (-11.81%)

    It would seem you need to normalize the packet rate for user activity to get an accurate picture. It should show a slight decrease of packets per active user (assuming same activity level), like you want and I said originally. But, it seems, the large decrease in the posted traffic graph is correlated to a large decrease in activity (posts and comments).

    Piefed.social posts decreased 61.97%, and comments decreased 53.58% over the same period (much higher than a piefed instance that hasn't switched and a Lemmy instance). So, I don't think we should call this a "huge win" and would like to reiterate what I've been saying, the possible network stress reductions are not worth the downsides of limiting people (at this scale).

    To me, you seem to be ignoring what I write and to repeat roughly the same thing over and over. That's fine to do, just please let me know so I can stop responding (it'll just save me and you some time).

    Edit: formatting, and a word change

  • The Voting Quota has ruined my workflow

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  • I'm not sure I understand, can you provide more context?

    You provided network usage for an instance that doesn't have internal activity to show that implementing user activity changes (for an instance that doesn't have users) decreased network usage?

    Or is this only federated traffic from piefed.social? In which case, it seems, it would accurately reflect the activity of only piefed.social users. Which wouldn't go against my point (neither interpretation really would). Is there a different way I should be interpreting your comments?

  • The Voting Quota has ruined my workflow

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  • That's a partial picture of what's happening. The other part is the other activity (comments and posts):

    • Average Daily Posts (2026-06-26 -> 2026-07-02): 74.14
    • Average Daily Posts (2026-07-03 -> 2026-07-09): 28.2
    • Average Daily Comments (2026-06-26 -> 2026-07-02): 272.29
    • Average Daily Comments (2026-07-03 -> 2026-07-09): 126.4

    I am missing the data of Piefed.social for 2026-07-07 (but that seems to be the worst weekday for the previous week so probably not going to help that average).

    Overall, it seems like piefed.social has less packets becuase there's less activity overall (my previous comment's point).

    It does seem piefed.social has had a spike in DAU since the update, but that seems to be falling off relatively quickly:

    • Average Daily Active Users (2026-06-26 -> 2026-07-02): 440.29
    • Average Daily Active Users (2026-07-03 -> 2026-07-09): 747.83 (peak 909, now 611)

  • The Voting Quota has ruined my workflow

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  • I don't know the back end situation, but I imagine, all other things being kept the same, this change maybe makes a low single digit effect on bandwidth.

    I would disagree that this a problem at this scale. I would argue unlimited voting is a boon at this scale. It makes the threadiverse more "alive", and encourages people to post and comment more.

    At a large scale, I could see unlimited voting being a concern for bandwidth, but at that point the threadiverse is "alive" enough to sustain itself (and a discussion could be had then).

    For a thought experiment, instead of limiting the top (x)% of voters, instead let's eliminate them. What % of total voting is lost? Based on the numbers in your post a few days ago, 0.12% of people average over 240 votes a day and account for 6.43% of total votes. Removing them, you lose ~6.5% of activity. Doesn't seem like much. In reality though, it's going to make everyone who votes 'a lot', vote less. My guess a 15% drop in votes. That 15% less encouragement to people to keep posting and commenting. That may not mean much at large scores, but removing the single upvote someone gets for their effort contributing can/has killed people's motivation to keep contributing (personnel experience).

    I imagine many of the people who vote a lot also post and comment a lot too. So your probably going to lose some non negligible % of posts and comments too.

    The threadiverse MAUs is holding relatively steady (+/- 10%) over the last year (not great, not terrible). Now start decreasing activity by 10-20%. Seems like a recipe for a downward feedback loop to me.

    Also, something to consider, those heavy voters are probably the platform's most enthusiastic users. So, in essense, you'd be muzzling your best supports to solve a theoretic future problem.

    Also, to note, I couldn't encourage your contribution to the discussion (upvote) in the hopes you'd be encouraged to do so more, because I can't.

    A final thought/critique, why not ask the heavy voters why they are heavy voters? You could find people like OP who need to learn about a feature (mark read on scroll) and after directing them to that, developers could work on UI changes to encourage people to use that feature (rather than limiting everyone).

    To your other comment about your prior post:

    I'm aware of the post and the discussion in it. I participated in it and had a nice discussion with anon6789@lemmy.world (Superbowl community mod). I think OpenStars and Squirrel shared similar sentiments in that post.

    Edit: I only saw the notification of your other comment and thought you responded a second time to my comment in this thread.

  • The Voting Quota has ruined my workflow

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  • I agree, the way OP is using voting isn't really what it's intended for and the "mark read on scroll" is a better option for what they want.

    However, what damage are they doing? They are basically giving encouragement to everyone to keep posting. If the worry is bandwidth, Piefed is only at ~5k and the threadiverse at ~40k. If bandwidth is a problem now, how will the platform scale to 400k or 4M active users?

    I would upvote your and Nusm's comments, because they contribute to the discussion, but I already hit my limit for the day (took under an hour). If you want more of my perspective. OpenStars and Squirrel also provide their viewpoint on the situation in the post (I don't know how to specifically link to my comments so you got a link to someone who replied to me).

  • Voyager stopped working with piefed.social

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  • Huh, magic. No idea, why but it's working again. I guess, maybe it was on piefed.zip's side.

    Anyways, thanks for taking the time to respond and for all your work on Voyager. It's great and you're great! :)

  • Voyager stopped working with piefed.social

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  • Given that Voyager just broke for me today, when piefed.zip upgraded to piefed v1.7, I assume this is a piefed v1.7 issue. Do you know when you are going to push the 2.47.5 update?

  • I used Linux on a phone for 30 days, here's why I'm sticking with it, and why you likely won't!

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  • I would assume so, and that was my thought too, but I don't know for certain (just know what he says in the video).

  • I used Linux on a phone for 30 days, here's why I'm sticking with it, and why you likely won't!

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  • Tldw: He mentions the new beta version of Ubuntu touch solved many problems. And he's going to use it as a daily driver going forward.

    The problems he had were banking apps, photo sync, copy-paste from waydroid to Ubuntu touch, and notifications between waydroid and Ubuntu touch. He shows the waydroid to/from Linux works in KDE. So, probably a relatively quick fix for those 2 problems.

    Edit: spelling.

  • Linux Phones @lemmy.ca
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    I used Linux on a phone for 30 days, here's why I'm sticking with it, and why you likely won't!

    tilvids.com /videos/watch/976a535d-6f0e-4ae6-9d9f-e1010b35dc6b

  • Enclose horse for 07/01

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  • Ah, gotcha. It definitely takes awhile to get a hang of.

    If you are intested in some tips, one method I use is to to find all the 1-space paths and block them. From there I can kind of see where the best areas to fence off are.

    Another method I use, is to make the smallest fenced area to start and then expand from there to the best looking areas (see method one).

    Combining those methods will usually get me at least silver, usually gold or perfect, though.

  • Enclose horse for 07/01

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  • Might be worth playing on "Easy" for a few days to get a better hang of it. "Easy" shows you your score before you submit so you can adjust your layout until you have the max score.

  • Enclose horse for 07/01

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  • What TV shows are absolutely worth watching?

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  • Apparently I like War, Mystery, and Comedy. List:

    • Andor: Is great, even if you aren't a Star Wars fan. Each 3 episode arc is better than the last. Only planned as 1 season, but did so well they made a Season 2 and Season 2 is better. You can use Rogue One as a cap to the series.

    • Veronica Mars: watched all of it for the first time this year. It holds up 20+ years later.

    • Ted Lasso: Comedy about a college American Football coach coaching English Football/soccer.

    • The Good Place: Strangely a philosophy heavy comedy. It slows in places, but is absolutely worth watching.

    • Schmitt's Creek: Comedy about unlikeable rich people becoming poor. It takes a bit to start, but each season is better than the last and nails the landing.

    Possibles:

    • Altered Carbon (Season 1): Great murder mystery set in a cyberpunk, dystopian future.

    • Shogun: Medieval Japan samurai "game of thrones"-esk show. Only planned as 1 season, but did so well they are making a Season 2.

    • Band of Brothers: War show about American rangers in WW2.

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    Russia’s Troop Losses in Ukraine Near 1.4 Million, Kyiv Claims

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  • Do you think "Kingston" is a sockpuppet of theirs?

  • Why can't I see this post on lemmy.ml?

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  • Haha. Yeah, I should pay more attention. Thanks for explaining it slowly for me :)

  • Why can't I see this post on lemmy.ml?

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  • Didn't .World defederate from .ml?

    OP can you see any .world communities or posts?

  • Does piefed support following users?

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  • Does piefed support following users?

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  • I believe Rimu said that following users would be possible in the next update. Not positive when the update is coming, but probably next couple weeks or sooner.

  • New Communities @lemmy.world
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    PoliciesForAll

    piefed.zip /c/policiesforall
  • New Communities @lemmy.world
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    Fedilytics

    piefed.zip /c/fedilytics
  • PurchaseWithPurpose @lemmy.world
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    Policy Push for Anyone, Anywhere

  • Ask Electronics @discuss.tchncs.de
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    Measuring Power Draw on a Raspberry Pi

  • PieFed Meta @piefed.social
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    Issue: Comment Votes Disappear (Daily?)