I feel like you're overlooking the fact that dairy is subsidized too, like I said before. It's not merely cheaper because it's a waste product of something that's "incredibly popular", it's propped up by the government. If the real price was paid the popularity of milk and its waste products would likely decrease.
This conversation started with you calling people like me "uncompromising shrieks" and it has continued with you calling people like me "absurd" and "childish." But, when I push back, it's all "we don't need that" and "I don't appreciate it".
If you can beat up on me but I have to be nice back, I don't really see the point of this conversation. Very .world behavior.
I gave the example of felony murder to show that this isn't just some exaggerated, non-standard way to judge crimes. It's not just a US thing, it comes from common law. There's similar law in Australia and Canada as well, and though it's no longer practiced officially in the UK there's the concept of "joint enterprise" whereby being involved in a murder still imputes criminal liability with similar legal outcomes.
It's not a world-wide way to conceive of crime, but it's pretty normal. Hardly an exaggeration.
Besides, is it so unreasonable to apply legal standards from the US to Parties within the US?
If I give a gun to someone and they kill someone knowing their intent beforehand, I’m guilty by association. Why is that not enough?
Because if you didn't give them a gun, they wouldn't have been able to kill as many people.
If the number of people they can kill on their own is X, and the number of people they can kill with your help is X+1, then you killed that +1 even if you didn't pull the trigger. They only died because you helped, which means you killed them
If you knowingly help plan and facilitate a murder by your actions, you are a murderer. This is how most people view murder.
You're the odd one out. I just think you should know that.
Fascinating. You realize no one thinks this way, right? There's a reason for that.
If you facilitate the murder weapon and then protect the murderer from consequences so they can keep killing, you are just as guilty of murder as if you held the gun yourself. That's how felony murder charges work. If there's a shootout during a robbery and someone dies, the getaway driver still gets a murder charge despite not holding one of the guns. Where's the exaggeration?
But is it cheaper than just using sugar and vegetable oil? I'm skeptical, especially since a lot of products that aren't even marketed as being dairy free don't bother with using dairy products. I'm not surprised, I just think it's one of those "if it works, don't fix it" kind of things that get stuck in the process.
It's hard to imagine how milk products could be cheaper when they require more energy inputs and more processing, along with limiting the consumer base as you said. I guess it's really subsidized so a lot of the actual cost is externalized?
I think like they're just doing what they've always done. Inertia.
On Christmas no one can stop you from eating directly from the salt shaker.