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  • Tbh I'm not sure what you're saying here. Person said they had to scroll down 5 results to get to the asshole being an asshole and seemed to think that was proof it's hard to research (hence my "five whole links") and then you seemed to be saying that since it's "hard to find" and the business isn't slapping a nazi flag front and center on their website means it's fine to use their stuff. If that's not what you meant, great. But you said the same thing again, so I'm pretty sure you meant it.

  • I dunno I've watched enough of the maga people talk to be pretty confident they just hate the world.

    The "this guy will shake things up" argument would make sense if he hadn't already been our single most corrupt president in a generation (until 47)

  • Yeah I figured it out from another message: intent matters. Framework appears to intend to support bad people. Tankies support bad causes but appear to think they are good. That moves the question to "what is good". Obviously white nationalists have a definition of good that I don't agree with but they think they are doing good or at least claim as such. However I think I generally agree with tankies, broadly, on their definition of good. I just think they are self deluded into believing that the world simply isn't as simple and awful as it appears to be. That having been said, my reference point for tankies is a few memes, so it may be that there's depths of evil there that I'm not aware of. However what I've seen is that they seem to be pro workers rights, anti capitalist power, etc...all of which I broadly agree with.

  • Dignity in front of who? It's just us two here bud. There's nobody to even lose to.

  • What a bizarre take on my message. Re-read what I wrote, and then read what you wrote, and maybe revise some of your assumptions about what I wrote.

  • Have you...never had a job? I'm really really confused by your aggro response. This is standard operating procedure for any company with more than like 15 people (or with any large assets they can be sued over). I regularly get quotes delayed due to companies having to get their own quotes for their own off the shelf hardware through legal approval.

  • I already answered that: your question is trying to move the goalposts away from what framework is doing.

    I think the rest of your response feels wrong in a fundamental way but I haven't thought through why yet.

  • Voting can absolutely be a hateful act, I literally can't imagine what happens in your brain that makes you think otherwise. The entire US 2024 election was hate vs not-the-hate-guy. A vengeance fantasy for middle aged white men.

  • It's literally in the post you're responding to. I didn't do any external research other than read the thread.

  • Losing what?

  • Before they invest money? Yes

  • If you're going to hold lemmy to the same standard we are holding lemmy to in this thread, absolutely yes. Did you not see the detailed links provided by oop?

    And uh ..don't the tankies not believe in those allegations? Isn't that their whole thing, that western media is lying about it? Ie delusional like I said.

  • Can you point me to that (must be lemmy dev or moderator appointed by a lemmy dev to be comparable)? All I've seen are posts on power tripping where people get banned because they say things like "Russia started it" or "Tiananmen lol, amirite". I've not seen anything to the extent you're describing and would be interested in seeing it.

    And uh, the problem isn't the use of software. Nothing in this thread is about the use of software.

  • Sounds like you're the one complicit in a genocide

    Is all I wrote. At this point I've long since assumed you are a bot because you've gone completely off the rails since then.

  • I wasn't worried about that I was just disappointed by the thread

  • Their response was "we're ok with supporting white nationalists". It doesn't take a complex pr machine to accept that white nationalists are bad people.

  • Tankies, afaik, are just delusional. Do they support murder of non-whites?

    And uh...the fact that defederating the tankies is a regular topic of conversation here is 100000000x better than the big tent response.

  • They immediately responded

  • Yeah I don't think you get how this works. They had time to research the tool they are recommending but literally nothing about the backers or community? Framework will absolutely have a legal team whose job would include vetting these orgs.

    But let's say you're right and framework is operating a company with no legal counsel (which is also a giant red flag): their response was "we are chill with terrible people in our space, we have a big tent". Not "you're right, we didn't do research on these guys thanks for bringing it to our attention we'll do some research". If they said that, this wouldn't be a thing. Instead, they said affirmatively "we don't care if they are white nationalists, we want to include white nationalists in our tent".