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  • This sounds interesting. Please elaborate 

  • This is all true

  • Again I’m not advocating for this, but it wouldn’t be super difficult to block noncompliant severs from the mainstream internet. We do that all the time with torrent sites for example. Its true that technically savvy users could still find their way around this but these measures would still block the majority of users and create an incentive for server owners to comply 

  • The same way they chase 100s of different pot shops and liquor stores to make sure they aren't selling to anyone under 18

  • Those are good ideas. I think another (somewhat radical, unlikely to be implemented) idea would be mandating that these services use open source code, so we can see exactly what shenanigans they’re up to.

  • It’s not scalable for hobbiest run social media like lemmy. It would probably put a cap on how many people could sign up on some of the big instances, which could have the effect of more instances being created and the fediverse becoming even more decentralized so the load could be shared. 

  • In ideal world, yes. But unless this is done collectively then any one kid who does this may feel socially isolated

  • Yeah and honestly it would probably be good for the fediverse if the big instances broke up into smaller ones. It would make things even more decentralized

  • Good point. Though I’ve heard some of these self driving cars connect remotely to a person to help drive when the AI doesnt know what to do, so I guess it's conceivable that the car could connect to the cloud. That would be super error prone though. Connectivity issues could brick your car.

  • Ideally we would need to find a system for collectively deciding to not give kids phones, so no one kid is socially penalized for not having a phone

  • These are good ideas but I don't know if Id necessarily trust big tech companies to comply (for example consider how Google was caught harvesting user data in incognito mode; what these companies say they do and what they do do does not always align). So in order for these reforms to be enforceable I think all these big tech companies would need to become open source

  • Thats an interesting idea. Smart phones sales could be restricted to minors, similar to nicotine products.

    And yeah, with the AI any photos posted to social media seem like a major privacy breach

  • I agree but many of the harms of social media don’t really manifest until the child hits puberty anyway, so not getting a phone until age 12 isn't really going to help with that

  • Yes exactly. Asking parents to defeat a multibillion dollar corporation with a supercomputer pointed at your child’s brain is a big ask

  • Using biometrics is an interesting idea. It could be similar to Apples face-scan to unlock feature, where the model of your face never leaves your local device but can still be used as two factor authentication to access your banking, for example. 

  • Thats interesting I should look into that 

  • Past a certain age this may start to become socially isolating for the children

  • Thats a good point about the bouncer.

    There are some comments here that discuss what this anonymous age verification system would look like. Basically it sounds like a system like that would require a separate service to verify that you're of age and then issue a one time password. There’s more details but thats the gist of it.

  • Thank you for sharing your perspective here. I found your comments interesting.