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  • As the other commenter said, it depends on where you are. But I would say, overall yes. Nobody really wants to talk about how bad it is/shaping up to be. The people preparing for serious defensive action are all dark, and everybody else is somewhere between denial, anger, or depression.

    There are a lot of spinning plates in the air, and they seem to be all falling down at around the same time. A small example of this is the 20,000 new ICE agents that the administration has order to be quickly hired. Back during the campaign, they had Trump loyalists at his rallies sign up to "work for the Nation". That's almost certainly the pool that they will be hiring undertrained, and armed Trump lackeys from. That means within the next 2.5 months, Proud Boys, Boogooloo Boys, Patriot Prayer, Patriot Front, J6 insurrectionists, and many other actual Nazis will have badges, guns, and a mandate from the federal government to round up immigrants, dissenters, disabled, and anybody else they deem to be "undesirable". And that's just ONE of the plates spinning in the air.

  • Yes, but you assume they know literally anything about the academic system at all. They think anybody who works at a university is an "elite", and is therefore somehow being treated better than them.

  • The Black Panther Party were cool, but the PSL is a bad example, imo. They've had... issues. Really icky issues that kind of mar the whole organization. I did meet some cool former PSLers back in my DSA-LSC days, though.

    I think it's personally a stretch to call Xin Jinping a Marxist, even if that's how he identifies. It kind of seems like China's just doing a capitalism, but with more steps. I don't know enough about Vietnam and Cuba, but it's my understanding that Vietnam has been slowly moving in the same state capitalist direction that China did

  • All of the examples I listed should meet your definition of success, right?

    You said:

    The nature of society has not fundamentally changed in a century, so there's no reason to think that methods of organization need to drastically change as well.

    I said:

    You don’t actually believe that basically nothing has changed since before the industrial revolution, do you? That seems intentionally obtuse.

    How is that a straw man? It's literally what you said.

  • I mean, it's both. Hungary was the upper cut and Czech was the right hook. But regardless, if you don't have a blind allegiance to just any state calling itself socialist, then you probably aren't a Tankie, right?

  • To date, nobody has shown a more effective approach to organizing that I'm aware of.

    Makhnovshchina, CNT, Rojava, Zapatistas...

    Is your definition of success the establishment of a socialist state? Because anarchists are never going to do that.

    The nature of society has not fundamentally changed in a century

    You don't actually believe that basically nothing has changed since before the industrial revolution, do you? That seems intentionally obtuse.

  • You're not an anti-anarchist, and I'm not an anti-Marxist. Isn't that just enough? Spending all of your time planning for what the potential future socioeconomic system might look like isn't something that really scratches any itch that I have anymore. I'm far more concerned with what can be done right now.

  • I guess if I can point to anything in this dynamic it's that there isn't really a huge difference in how effective the different groups are at accomplishing their short term goals, so IMO it would just make more sense to figure out which ideological line is most attractive to the people it's supposed to serve in a given area and stick to that.

    I 100% agree

  • And that was a useful framework in the early 20th century (I've at least read the April Theses), but can we not continue to adapt our revolutionary strategy to better combat the forces who opposed us today rather than in 1917?