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  • While it feels deeply satisfying to say that and even applaud you, I'll do a hot take:

    Your country probably has almost or exactly as many deranged morons as we do here with MAGA, per capita. The difference is we've weaponized voter disenfranchisement and bipartisan hackery (crucially including gerrymandering), largely abandoned ethical journalism standards, and never really properly dealt with the aftermath of our civil war, what with shaming our traitors and educating and rebuilding the nation. We were able to get away with all of that because we toot our own horn so hard for so long about being the bastion of democracy, and the world largely agreed with us.

    So we still have backwoods y'allQaeda training grounds who vote Trump because anyone with a (D) is the (D)evil, and their vote counts more than someone in an educated area due to the electoral college system.

    TL;DR: MAGA isn't special - other countries have AfD, FdI, etc., which are all rising in popularity despite you turning your nose up at us for us being uniquely ridiculous.

  • If it's anything like my state's Disorderly Conduct law, it's a wide-reaching law with a lot of room for abuse.

    For Disorderly Conduct, all a cop in my state needs is one (1) non-law enforcement person to say they were offended by your conduct, and it's off to jail for you.

  • I used to think the same thing before I became a cop. Reddit was flush with what seemed like justified outrage at the obvious recursive and thus tyrannical nature of arresting someone for resisting arrest.

    ... then I found out some states call their Obstruction statute "Resisting (Someone Else's) Arrest."

    Obviously this leads to a lot of confusion, anger, and division. Another fine example of how legislation can drop the ball on doing their jobs and leave law enforcement holding the bag of public ire.

  • You're being ten times the troll I could ever aspire to be, especially in light of your getting shitty in this comment.

    Enjoy the block.

  • I would be surprised if it is.

    1. Some federal agents get temporarily deputized as local law enforcement in the areas they operate in (and vice-versa).

    2. It's not illegal for law enforcement to lie.

    Between 1 and 2, I'd be amazed if anything criminal could be charged here.

    -Ex-cop

  • This has to be a Trump->ICE quotas thing; nothing else makes sense.

    90% of racists still believe there are "good ones," and who's more of a "good one" than a neuroscientist?

    Just goes to show you that it's never been about ridding the country of dangerous people.

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  • I'm guessing there's just so much money (and power) in that kind of thing that it's simply here to stay.

  • You inventing this “no politics on lemmy at all” strawman is all you.

    Okay, off my community. Is that better? I can't tell if you're being intentionally pedantic or not, but I guess if you're not, the main issue I'm getting at here is politics is a whack-a-mole where it's NIMBY until there's nowhere but /c/politics to talk about it, at which point the baddies win because all dissent is properly quarantined and people have a much easier time pretending nothing is going wrong.

    Also can you put all of your personal attacks in the garbage where they belong?

  • Unlikely. There are a lot of badge bunnies out there.

  • Your comment was a pain to read. Am I understanding correctly that you're mostly repeating yourself and ignoring my point about your false dichotomy?

    Nobody here is saying we need to invade /c/cutepicsofpuppies with Donald Trump is Bad posts. You're saying "Get Politics off my Lemmy." I'm saying somewhere in the middle is best.

  • We have a rather extreme voter apathy epidemic combined with the resultant diarchy, where the main objective is not solving problems, but ensuring the top two dogs are always on top followed by winning the next election against the other team.

    You wrongfully assert 100% of Americans don't care and don't do anything; it's more that a large enough percentage of Americans don't care and don't do anything such that the powers that be know they can do whatever awful thing they want to do for their donors.

  • Again, that angle is largely you seeking solutions to a problem that doesn't exist; ICE agents aren't trying to trick people in order to date/befriend them.

    As I said, they don't want anything to do with people who hate them.

  • You're constructed an excellent false dichotomy there, haven't you?

  • Tons of joke answers and few actual answers, so here's the opinion of an ex-cop:

    What's your aim? If it's to identify ICE via speed dating or something to collect a list of local ICE agents, it'll take weeks, months, or even years years to uncover what they do. ICE agents know quite a few people hate them, so they're not going to wear their job on their sleeve. In that line of work it's known as OPSEC. In my personal life, very few people know I was a cop. ICE is even less popular, so they'll be even more tight about it. Best advice on this front is just keep your ears open for claims of being "taxi drivers," "garbage collectors," or other jokes cops often make to describe what they do.

    If it's to avoid dating/befriending ICE agents, all you need to do is let it be known that you hate ICE. Obviously your HR is going to come into the fray if you're passing out "FUCK ICE" pamphlets, but feel free to get tattoos, bumper stickers, T-shirts, and whatever else you can get your hands on to express yourself, and I promise you ICE agents will avoid you like the plague, though they won't outwardly state their reasons why.

    I don't want to hang out with people who hate me, you don't want to hang out with people who hate you, and ICE agents don't want to hang out with people who hate them. Not only is it unsafe, but it's simply unpleasant.

  • Is your question rhetorical or are you actually asking me because you don't know the answer?

  • Somehow putting uncomfortable conversations into tiny boxes everyone avoids doesn't feel like the way to stop the rise of the far right.

    Enjoy the sand around your head, though.

  • Evidently the sentiment isn't having a wide enough reach, as people are crawling into their echo chambers to avoid not having to deal with the fallout of their apathy, handing elections over to the nasties.

    Not everyone was German/Italian/Japanese in the 1930s-40s either. Pretty sure those countries still affected others, though.

  • Sadly not relevant to my specific post, but I appreciate you spreading the word.

  • "No politics please" sounds like a great rule until the results of politics kick down your door and black bag you.

  • Fighting to remove as many posts as possible on Lemmy when we barely get any posts at all doesn't make sense; ignore the people requesting you take a popular post down for some potential technicality.