Active users on hexbear over time

I wonder what the ratio of active users to lurkers are. There have definitely been times when I’ve been here but haven’t commented for 2 weeks.
EDIT: ok so I did some tangential math. If we have ~1375 active users out of 20,000 accounts, then ~7% of the site actively produces content. In reality, the % is even higher if you factor in alts/dead accounts, but I don’t know if that’s possible :shrug-outta-hecks:. It also can get lower if you factor in the density of posting (I post once and someone else posts 100 times, so technically we’re both “active” but the site depends much more on this smaller minority of super posters.) Overall though, if we look at the 1% rule, which I admittedly don’t know the validity of, then Hexbear :hexbear-retro: is actually overachieving!
- I likely only count as active less than 20% of the time. I wonder how many people are similar
  When do you comment? Is it cause it is something pertaining to your day life?
- I have a comfortable 2 year lurk period here.
- if posting is praxis, then call me an armchair revolutionary :bordiga-despair:
- Same
- I guess we need to post more comrade.
  :fidel-salute-big:
  
  I'm doing long shifts working in the posting mines
- 2 weeks? Consider 2 months. I feel like I hardly have something worthwhile to contribute.
  
  I rarely have anything worthwhile to contribute but I comment anyway cuz I like notifications :blob-no-thoughts:
- yeah that's me. I check every other day or so but don't post too often
- I likely only count as active less than 20% of the time. I wonder how many people are similar
- Lurker
  It me

infinite growth is the ideology of cancer :zizek-joy:
- certainly any venture capitalist would have thrown us out the window with these numbers
- I mean it would still be good to have some finite growth...

theres more of us here than i'd have guessed! we're a healthy little community :Care-Comrade:

This is a great size in my opinion: big enough for a diversity of personality, knowledge, and opinion, but small enough to feel like a fairly intimate community where the regulars actually get to know most of the other people.
I'm almost 40. Being here reminds me of being on early BBS communities in the 1990s, and I love it. The death of that kind of thing after around 2012ish because of :reddit-logo: and Facebook was a real tragedy, and the internet was a better place when more things like :sicko-hexbear: existed.

That's fuckin wild. Usually activity spikes on brand new services are much higher than the number of retained users. The stability of the population is crazy.
- Yeah, this is a really good outcome. Damn.
  
  It helps that comrades are great to be around. :stalin-approval:
- I don't think we really have anywhere else to go that's friendly to both Stalinposting and trans rights

Very stable this past year! Good to see it's not in decline

Flattening the curve :kelly:

If I've learned anything from 13 years of moderating subreddits, it's that there is zero if not an inverse correlation between subscribers and quality. A community reaches a point where there's a healthy amount of content from a userbase that understands its culture and concept. That's its plateau. It can be a thousand people, ten thousand, even a hundred thousand. The number is arbitrary to a point and then the way people interact with content takes over. If people can digest one post faster than another, they'll upvote it faster and that will start to dilute the quality of the community. Images take precedence over text, templates over original content, popular over innovative.

what do the 4 spikes correspond to?
early Nov 2020, early Jan 2021, mid March 2021, and mid May 2021
- Jan 2021 was the hogs taking a stroll through capitol
- Election, January 6th, trial of Derek Chauvin (though maybe not as that was right at the end of March), withdrawal from Afghanistan?
  
  :sicko-wistful:
- When did we take on the vegan lifeboat?
- March 2021 maybe the vegan struggle session?
- mid march i'm 99% sure was vegan struggle, and may is i think when reg opened back up?

honestly surprised we've remained so consistent, and that our baseline is such a large percentage of our peaks
- Yeah. All in all solid base of users. with almost no outreach.

January 6 was GREAT day for Hexbear and leftists worldwide
- If we want to grow we need to provoke hogs to do it more often
- Orthodox Christian Christmas is January 7. Coincidence?

This post gonna cause another spike lol :meow-hug:

- I did not use the online counter, instead i looked at all the comments and posts and counted the author of them as active for the next 14 days

I'd like to see this compared to the amount of new users over time. There must have been a lot of alts created in the early days to reach 20k by now. So many abandoned and troll accounts too.
- It is unlikely that the roughly constant safe baseline of users is from the same users.
  It's more likely that user churn occurs and that new users is simply keeping up with the user churn. There is no community without user churn.
  
  In the beginning it makes sense that there would be a lot of turnover. We had the discord drama stuff so a lot of alts were likely created then, which pumped the user numbers. Then there was growth of new users as word of the site spread. I don't have data to back it up but I assume regulars do have alts, or should, because of what we went through with doxxing users in the past. I agree that new users are balancing out people who leave, I don't think that the balance is caused by the same users creating lots of alts.
  That's why I'd like to see how the user count changed along with the change in current users, to see how those correlate. If the current users was steady around 1300 but there was a sudden spike in new accounts, that means either a lot of people left and we got a sudden influx of new people. Or it means people rotated their accounts to avoid doxxing. I'd like to see the effect of ban waves too.
- I can do it, it would be much easier than this one

I wonder how much of that early activity was kerryposters
- It was people coming over here from Discord, then going back to discord because they like the instant format better
  
  I’m legit too ND for discord, it overstims me
  :ohnoes:
- Probably not much

1250 is a lot. I'm not complaining.
- I think the old chapo sub-:reddit-logo: had 100k users. Not sure how many active though.
  
  By this metric probably only a small fraction

Not bad, all things considered

- We post until maintenance is achievable and then we chill because that’s how sane people do
- Normal go brrr

Ohh I actually thought that we were having more activity since about late last year. Maybe the active users left are just really dedicated
- I have a theory that almost all the posts are literally just Dirt owl, RNAI and BMF posting on their alts
  
  And tervel
  
  I know of at least 2 more people who post from a shit ton of alts. The Hexbear Discord scene is wild
- :arm-L: :posting: :arm-R:
  Yes he has 4 arms to post even more

Still more stable than crypto

Wow that fell off a lot less than I would have expected from the beginning

This post got me to log back in and stop my lurking streak. Hexbear is one of the only places on the net that is actually pleasant to go to.
- Why would this post make you stop lurking?
  
  It was interesting, I like data visualizations, and I was hoping there’d be some angry nerds malding about the site still existing I could dunk on

i fucking love science

There are dozens of us! Dozens!

Most of those are my alts
- do you use them all simultaneously?
  
  I'm replying to myself right now

- Where do you see 20k?
  
  looking forward to hb40k
- its 2k

very nice, can you post the code?
- https://pastebin.com/FCb0xQRc requires curl and rapidjson
  
  :isaac-pog:
  
  ah, c. a user of class and sophistication :capybara-fancy:

We've been steady for a while now looks like
- You're asking me to the next base? 😳

I’d post more, but it’s pretty time consuming taking screenshots of everything and adding them all to your files.
:fedposting:
- Once every 14 days is enough and it seems like you fill your biweekly quota regularly so good job, you will not be sentenced to hard labour in the posting mines
  
  Glad I only have one account and just post bi-weekly.
  :yea:

Pretty steady, nice job folks

remarkable consistency

Viva la Hexbear!
:hexbear-retro:

:stonks-up:
- not really
  
  :stonks-down:

- I only looked at posts and comments made so if the user uses only one account at the time then they shouldnt inflate the number of active accounts
- I'm actually the One True Leftist, unless you are my alt and I'm simply not aware of it
- i am the leader of the 300 like in that movie - you whisper 'this is all bots' and I scream 'no, this is hexbear'
- it's just you and me, buddy.

Is this reliable because at the start multipe tabs registered as multiple online users.
- i already answered this question in this comment https://hexbear.net/post/195720/comment/2459157

Oh forgot to ask, how does this handle deleted accounts or comments? I would imagine it's always going to be heavily biased the further you go back because there's more time for people to leave.
- It does correctly count deleted comments but does not count deleted posts, deleting of accounts is usually just deleting of their every comment and post but there are some accounts that completely disappear and those are not counted

:im-doing-my-part:

I think the server would die if we got 2000 again.

I stopped being active, stopped using my old account do to infighting and wanted to get away from depression posting.
I wish there was something better to replace being board at work than social media or discord.
- I've been playing emulated Pokemon Crystal for GBC instead lately. That game has a lot to it for an early 2000s handheld game