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7mo ago

Vimms Lair is getting removal notices from Nintendo etc. We need someone to help make a rom pack archive can you help?

Vimms lair is starting to remove many roms that are being requested to be removed by Nintendo etc. soon many original roms, hacks, and translations will be lost forever. Can any of you help make archive torrents of roms from vimms lair and cdromance? They have hacks and translations that dont exist elsewhere and will probably be removed soon with ios emulation and retro handhelds bringing so much attention to roms and these sites

datahoarder @lemmy.ml

Vimms Lair is getting removal notices from Nintendo etc. We need someone to help make a rom pack archive can you help?

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fuck nintendo
fuck nintendo
fuck nintendo
fuck nintendo
- You know humanity is fucked (pun unintended) when the post with the most likes is actually "fuck (insert whatever)".

Nooo… that was my goto rom archive after emuparadise went down. F u Nintendo I‘m not paying a monthly subscription to play retro games.

There are already torrents containing collections of all the games from old systems. What there needs to be is an "official" collection torrent for each system that archivists can store and seed individually
- There arent ones that include hacks and fan translations. For example PSP games like monster hunter portable 2nd G with the FUComplete patch or Monster Hunter Portable 3rd G with the English Patch v5
- Every time I see this news (Reddit or Lemmy) I see this kind of comment, but I wonder, what if I want to download just a ROM of a few mbs? I certainly don't want to hoard the whole collection, as a torrent user I believe I can just pick up the file (if it isn't zipped), but wouldn't that be against the torrent's moral code?
  
  But most (all?) Torrent clients let you select which files you want to download so of there was an official unarchived torrent then archivists could seed forever and others could select the ROMs/manuals/etc. that they wanted
- Do you know where I can find them? I will seed them all
  
  Anecdotal, but when I was just messing with qBittorrent and its search feature, I found some ROM sets just by searching for system and sorting by size. This torrent for example is not necessarily comprehensive but contains a lot of roms of which can be shared with friends and family :)
- Look up GoodROM databases. There is metadata for each ROM so you know if your collection is complete.

Nintendo is just cheap Japanese Disney for gamers. They're every bit the corporate monster the mouse is, they're simply just not as powerful yet.
- Worldwide, Mario is more recognizable than the mouse. Nintendo is going to start their own movie studio soon. They are copying the blueprint set out by Disney.

It's honestly kind of amazing that it lasted so long in the first place
- I'm gonna miss vimms lair, never told a soul about it. And I'd help but my internet is terrible rural internet.
  
  Vimms always appeared first in Google searches for ROMS. it was inevitable
  Ugh...Next will be the Archive
  
  It's not gone, they didn't even take down all of the Nintendo games, they took down specific games (reddit link), albeit a lot of them, but there's still lots of stuff left.

The whole point of IP laws (according to the Constitution of the United States) is to develop a robust public domain. Every registered idea, multiplied by every limited rights extention is a violation of public interest and public rights.
By burying or failing to preserve content, they are in fact stealing from the public, since we won't be able to access it when it is our right.
- Someone should present this to some progressive legislative body so that we can develop a safe haven for archiving games.
  
  Well there is the Stop Killing Games initiative started by Ross Scott and supported by the Pirate Parties. If they succeed, companies selling games in recent years will be required to either keep supporting their game or to make it available in a way so that others can ensure its continued support.
  When this is achieved the step to free older games is small.
  If you live in Europe you have the chance to support the movement by vote in the upcoming elections.
  
  Here in the US, there are no progressive legislative bodies. The Democratic party treats its progressive members as the red-haired stepchildren who have to dine at their own table.
- This is America, the only law that is enforced is ownership by means of a monetary transaction.
  "Ownership" by public nature is laughed at.
  C.R.E.A.M :(
- Where are IP laws mentioned in the constitution?
  
  Here.. Article I, Section 8, Clause 8.
  [the United States Congress shall have power] To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries.
- It wouldn't be too hard to go through every archived game and determine if it's still available through corporate means or not. Those are the ones that are threatened to be erased forever if corpos get their way. The biggest problem is the money and means to fight against corporate goons and lawyers.

Damn...Vimms Lair was my favorite, friggin Nintendo doing what it does best...
- My kid has the first Nintendo Switch, he wanted the new one, but I told him "you're getting a Steam Deck, and we're smashing all Nintendo shit with a sledgehammer". Then I explained to him why it's wrong to support compaies that enshitify life, and now he is waiting for his Deck and has already pirated all the games he liked and has been testing a few emulators.
  I'm proud of him.
  
  Thats some proper parenting right there. It sounds like you are raising an upstanding citizen.
- At least vimms lair still has xbox roms. Pretty hard to come by compared to nintendo roms.
- vimms lair was where i first played seiken densetu 3 back in 2000 when it wasn't available anywhere

Is there a list of impacted roms?
- Not sure, but the blast radius is tremendous, even games from the Atari 2600, a console released nearly fifty fucking years ago have been taken down.
  
  Damn it how will I play my annual 20 minutes of Pitfall now. This is terrible.

A friend of mine and I put this together a few years ago. I hope yall find it helpful:
undefined

#!/usr/bin/env bash download_roms(){ for ((i=$1; i<=$2; i++)); do cd "$HOME/retroarch" curl -G -L "https://download3.vimm.net/download/?mediaId=$i" -H 'User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:109.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/110.0' -H 'Referer: https://vimm.net/' -O -J done } choose_system(){ printf "\n============================================" printf "\n NOTE: This Script has not been fully tested" printf "\n It may not work as expected" printf "\n============================================\n" printf "Download roms for which systems? 1. NES 2. SNES 3. GameBoy 4. N64 5. GameCube 6. Sega Genesis 7. Playstation1-2 8. Playstation Portable 0. All\n : " read -r system case $system in "1") download_roms 3 981 "NES";; "2") download_roms 983 1770 "SNES";; "3") download_roms 2955 5932 "GameBoy";; "4") download_roms 2465 2761 "N64";; "5") download_roms 7461 7634 "GameCube";; "6") download_roms 1771 2464 "Sega Genesis";; "7") download_roms 6071 9894 "Playstation1-2";; "9") download_roms 23991 23973 "Playstation Portabale";; "0") download_roms 1 100000 "All";; esac } mkdir -p "$HOME/retroarch" choose_system
- Thank you for the awesomeness that is the script. If I might ask a question: why is the user agent Windows 10 if this is a bash script? I'm genuinely curious and I don't know why.I imagine this might be WSL. You did mention it was an old script so maybe it had something to do with that?
  
  The "user-agent" part of the script is the same as a browser's user agent. So it's trying to emulate a common user so the site doesn't know it's a script, and there's not a more common user than a Windows one, so it's lying about it.
  
  It explicitly sets it to that to help disguise the fact that it's a script rather than a browser
  
  That's a very good question. It was a few years ago, but it's running right now on my computer on Linux.

Please also post on the filehoarder subreddit.
- Datahoarder@lemmy.ml? Or is there one on another instance?
  
  I guess he means the subreddit in reddit : https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder

VIMM's Lair has been around for ages... If Nintendo really cared why didn't they do something around, say, 2002? 🤔
Why is there no statute of limitations on this kinda bullshit?
- I don't think that's a good argument. In a more general case, if you didn't pursue your rights 10 years ago that doesn't mean you can't get your shit together and do it today. Maybe you've lost some of what you deserved but you still should get future benefits.
  As for statue of limitations, if it keeps happening today then it doesn't matter when it started. They could only talk about things that happened in the past year - it's still being hosted and shared.
  To be clear, I'm not taking Nintendo's side, all efforts to preserve these games are amazing and I love to see everyone keep it up :)
  
  It's more the fact that actual crimes can be nullified by a statute of limitations, but shit like this doesn't seem to have any expiration date

It reads like many ROMs are already gone? So any archive created now would be incomplete, right?
Centralized archives will always be vulnerable to this.

We need explicit legislation against this type of behavior.

This shit pisses me off so much. I need a gun
- Use a NES Zapper converted to an actual gun, seems fitting.
  
  Why not a super scope ?

Let's start mirroring and torrenting full ROMsets!

As soon as I heard about the emulator stuff I grabbed some archive torrents to seed overall more then 5 tb. All WII DS 3DS and SWITCH roms so they aren't gone if you have the space to join seeding pm me and I'll send you the magnet links because there are like only 5 seeder and a lot of leecher
- I got a VPS I'm not fully utilizing, I can seed a bit
- Hai, I might be able to help. I also have some more retro systems if you want

Wait is CDRomance also under threat? Ugh
- Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

I recommend switching to Myrient! Has been my source for quite some time now, because Vimms was just to slow for me.
- Issue with myrient is lack of box art and stuff, thing ibliked with vimm is the bonus ability to browse games

Need a list of missing games first.

Whoever runs it must have all of that stored locally, too, no?

They should still be on myrient, not?
- For now. Myrient doesnt use torrents either so when Nintendo comes for them the files are gone
  
  Is there a way to download their entire archive?

Are these roms/hacks that aren't in the roms megathread? I'd have to assume most of these already have duplicates somewhere else just by nature of them being put online

Dang I thought they would never get hit...
- Why would you think that?
  I saw that place gained lots of popularity fairly recently... Mostly on Reddit.
  Isn't there a way to just host all those roms in a site where Nintendo has no jurisdiction?
  
  I guess I just didn't see people talking about it, but I must've missed it or been on the wrong subreddits
  As to the second question I have no idea
- I've seen the occasional copyright notice on that site before, it was inevitable.
  
  Darn that sucks.

Would it be feasible to have/create something similar on I2P?
- Yes. How good is the speed of I2P now during the DDoS?
  
  What DDoS?

Is this because of the HD PC port recompilation posts of Majora's Mask etc? Sigh.
- No it’s because all the Apple emulator users being reckless as fuck, flocking to the site all at once to try games they could have emulated on PC for decades now…

Esa? European space agency?

Any updates on this? I can't provide much, as Nintendo games are not something I'm interested in, but I guess I can allocate 800-1000GB or so for some time for this, if there's an archive torrent already made
Found a comment below, but after thinking about it we'd need something a bit more "official" and "centralized", like Vimm's was, otherwise we'd be spreading it too thin and would end up with many different un-searchable, un-findable torrents with few seeds for the same things
- You could seed these torrents https://archive.org/details/retro-roms-best-set
  https://archive.org/details/done-set-two
  https://archive.org/details/done-set-addon
- Its also some Sega games and a lot of other stuff that cit destroyed, ESA or something got involved

I have some sets for early systems. Find romsets on other sites. Store them and make your own torrents, working on one but its currently broken

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