Advertising Lemmy on r/place

I'd be hugely surprised if this isn't full of 'this sub is restricted' 'this sub is NSFW' 'fuck u/spez', John Oliver pics, Lemmy, Kbin, Apollo and all the other 3rd party app logos...
So much iconography to choose from. The admins will be all over it trying to censor it

Why on Earth would they run r/place not only in the middle of July but right in the middle of a massive fight with their user base?
- To boost the active users numbers
  
  And based on everyone’s excitement to participate seems like their plan is working.
  
  Which raises the question: if the point is to raise the number of active users for July, what do they plan on doing for August? Like, a slow descent from June to July to August wouldn't look great to a potential investor, but surely a steady increase to July followed by a sheer cliffface down to August would look even worse right??
- I'd imagine there are a few reasons, but the TL;DR is... money.
  This year's April Fools event was terrible. Most people were unable to participate as they didn't understand it and those that did participate worked on the event in a couple of different Discord servers, not on Reddit itself (because Reddit is terrible for real-time communication). It was also largely unannounced so it was pretty challenging to find and that couldn't have been good for the site's revenue - as controversial as r/place is going to be this year, it's going to bring in a lot of money for the site (and increase the number of active users) because even people that have left Reddit will probably return to put "FUCK SPEZ" on the canvas.
  The API controversy is ongoing and shows no signs of ending currently. I think they're trying to distract people from the API changes and hope that people think "wow, Reddit is fun, I'll stick around" after r/place ends instead of becoming less active or leaving the site entirely. r/place will also probably be discussed quite widely for the next few weeks and Reddit probably hopes that this will lead to the API changes being forgotten about (like plenty of other controversies in the site's history - newer Redditors have no idea about the r/jailbait controversy or u/spez editing comments, for example).
  Ultimately, Reddit are going to be collecting data from r/place and using it to encourage investors to invest in Reddit.
  
  I don't even remember this year's April thing?

The reason they are bringing back r/place right now is obvious. They are luring people like OP back in so they can say, "Look at how high our engagement is even after the API changes" then push forward their IPO. This post is exactly what Spez wants.
- Spez likely doesn't want an alternative that is doing well being advertised on r/place, I wouldn't be surprised if admins didn't do some sussy deleting like they have before.
  
  It likely also won't look good that the picture is covered in "FUCK SPEZ" everywhere.
  Unfortunately the admins will be able to replace any pixels they don't like.
- Reddit has over 500 million monthly users. If we got 100,000 Lemmings to go over there, that would give them 0.02% more traffic. For one week.
  Also I hate to say this but you've got like 25 comments and I've got nearly 900. And I'm being lured back in to reddit? I never left, I've been shilling Lemmy this whole time.
  And because Lemmy is so much better, that's genuinely all I want to do when I'm on reddit.
  
  I find that figure extremely hard to believe. Maaaaybe with bots.
- Reddit isn't going to die because a few thousand users decide to stop using it. It will die if we build a quality alternative and bring users over while reddit's quality goes to shit.

You son of a bitch, I’m in.
- 👉😏👉

- Exactly. There are redditors planning on protesting on r/place. There are discords dedicated to it. Fediverse users should not participate. Especially those who left because of the recent changes. All we’ll do is boost Reddits numbers.
  
  On the other hand we could get a few more borderline leaving reddit users here... IDK, IMO it's worth a shot.

Let’s change a few “r/...”s to “c/...”s for existing Lemmy communities.
- I post with c/ even on reddit, lol 😂.
- Love this idea

I don't think the average Joe understands the words "decentralized content aggregator." It would scare them away. How about replacing it with layman's terms, like "the better reddit"?
- "it's like reddit but there's no Spez"
  
  We changed the name to “The No Spezes Club”
- I agree, but this is not the design we are using. In fact, we currently have no design. We will likely need to leverage alliances to get anything done, because we don't have enough people here to secure our own space.
  Maybe the Netherlands or Germany places would lend us some space to create something. This one was nice to see
  
  I see. wait r/place has already started? time to spam lemmies.
- I found voyager (previously wefwef) pretty easily and quickly adopted that while I wait for sync to be released
  Here's a fun post asking lemmy users about their technical background. It's quite a varied mix but it seems to trend on the pretty layman end of the spectrum https://lemmy.world/post/1868094
  Lemmy gave me my reddit fix when I left when the first blackouts started, using my 3rd party app only every couple days to check protest subs until the app died
  I think with development of lemmy apps, and the fact kbin is officially working on an API (https://kbin.social/m/kbinMeta/p/903221) it will only become more accessible. When I first heard of lemmy, of course I search the play store and there was hardly anything. I've been using voyager for 10 versions and it's improving leaps and bounds. A lot of seasoned reddit devs are working on a lemmy app now and that's nothing but fantastic news. Some even stated future kbin support
  
  To be fair, that post specifically asks people who don't have a technical background. It can be used to show that laymen have the capacity to use a federated platform like lemmy, but not that they are a significant portion of the userbase (albeit that post does have a lot of replies).

My input for anyone on board for this is to start with the Lemmy logo. Put it everywhere, subtle and varied like the among us characters had been done before. Then, quickly, put one bold one and focus on getting the word Lemmy next to it. If the moderators don't immediately squash that, go on to the other words you have laid out here.
Alternatively, put the smallest readable size of the word Lemmy.com all over Place.
- https://join-lemmy.org would probably be better
  
  Whether it's the link spelled out or a qr code for it, that would be good

I mean admins will just delete it like every other time someone they don't like attempts to participate in r/place
- Then they'll point out how many people returned to participate. It won't just be a wasted effort, it will actively help them.
  
  This. They'll permaban you for nothing, overwrite everything that doesn't look good to advertisers, and report you as a new user on the platform.

I've seen these happen every year but have never actually participated. But this feels like a worthy cause.
- I participated a little bit, these felt like they were the best of these sort of "events". If we do this I'll definitely come click a few times to help the lemmy banner.
- Then you missed out on the controversy of the admins changing stuff they didn't like in the past then!
  This will be no different.
  
  But at least it was controversial. Maybe they'll streisand effect us more into public consciousness

If you are thinking of doing this, I am begging you to stop and spend that time contributing to lemmy instead. 10,000 users will be a drop in the bucket for r/place, but 10,000 extra comments or posts could be the difference between the whole site surviving or not.
- Post in c/place > get redditors to make an account > gain users > eventually gain 10,000 extra comments and posts after a bit of time.
  The site won't survive if it doesn't grow. In order to make it grow, sometimes we have to leave the site and tell other people that it exists.
  
  Just write a bot to click a certain area and certain colors. That's what a lot of people did last time.
- Set up a macro to pixel paint/place to the Lemmy url, or fuck reddit or whatever, put it on repeat...... While that's running browse and use lemmy.

I created a template! https://lemmy.ml/post/2288443
- That would have been great. I'm away from the computer, but I kept looking for anything Kbin or Lemmy in the mix.
  
  This is how we fared with the central banner: Timelapse

probably will just be streamers owning the whole thing again
- It’s gonna people shilling for a used game store.
  
  Even worse: Shilling for the NFTs of a used game store.
  
  B- but- stonks to the mooon🚀🚀🚀?

This seems like a bad idea...
Aside from giving them traffic, which i'm pretty sure is one of the major goals of r/place...
how much are you banking on people actually seeing it, let alone caring about it?
I mean they could even just mod-erase the spot couldn't they?
I'm just saying it's a lot of traffic for them that doesn't seem like it'd actually be of any benefit to anyone but Reddit.
- Reddit has over 500 million monthly users. If we got 100,000 Lemmings to go over there, that would give them 0.02% more traffic. For one week. And realistically, it would be a miracle if even 10,000 of you fine folk participated in this plan.
  I don't know how many people will see it, I don't know if they will eventually erase it, but either way, it's better than doing nothing.
  
  Again, there's a very good chance the mods will delete it, and part of the whole point is to not bring them back traffic. Because that's the point of the r/places event.
  So I really don't think it's actually better than doing nothing.
  Let's put it this way, the realistic number goes both ways, the people who would be working on the spot, and the people who might check it.
  The mods just flat out removing it is an additional factor against the project.

I also think LARPers and Reddit has been demonizing the word decentralized, better stick with just Lemmy.
- I just can't get over the name. My head cannon is lemmy is the name of a lemur, and lemmy users are lemurs
  Can you imagine if lemmy were to celebrate an achievement?? We cannot be having lemmyparties
  
  In case you, or anyone else reading this, wants to now the actual reason behind the name Lemmy, it's stated in the link below :)
  https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy#whys-it-called-lemmy

Oh yeah, give them traffic. So smort.
- Reddit has over 500 million monthly users. If we got 100,000 Lemmings to go over there, that would give them 0.02% more traffic. For one week. And realistically, it would be a miracle if even 10,000 of you fine folk participated in this plan.
  
  I dislike the idea of deciding the cut ties with something and then staying there to shout into the indifferent void that is bots and angry neckbeards.
- Use the tools your enemy provides.
  
  "the master's tools will never dismantle the master's house" or smth

I'm game. This'll be fun lol

This will open us to an inter site raid. Are we really ready to repel am attack from reddit users /bots?
- Why would they raid us when we are in agreement? Redditors hate the API changes just as much as us, I'm not sure why you think they would be hostile to Lemmy. After all, most of us were redditors a few weeks ago and we were open to the idea of Lemmy. There's got to be more people over there that are on the verge of leaving but just need a little push
- Maybe, we'll be safe because most people from reddit can't figure out how to join lemmy anyway I think lol
  
  Facts. Everyone been running around shrieking about how impossible signing up is because you have to checks notes pick a server.
- Most people on Reddit can't wrap their heads around how Lemmy works.

A lot of people are thinking short term when it comes to Reddits traffic IMO. Sure, temporarily we would boost Reddits traffic but long term would probably hurt them. By this time next year, I'm sure Lemmy would have much higher contributing numbers than now, and next r/place will either A) not happen or B) happen with embarrassingly low participation. We could have c/place here instead.
I agree that helping Reddits traffic by participating doesn't seem like a good idea, but I also don't think that ignoring Reddit will make the *problem go away either. So I support the cause, but as I used to use RIF, I will not be participating, but more luck to you.
*one could argue there is no problem as Reddit is a separate entity to Lemmy. But I, like the rest of the community, support having more people switch here so we have more content. Honestly, I don't care about Reddit as long as Lemmy can provide the content we used to see over there.

Love this

The community got deleted. I guess it's dead then?? Sad; I would have really liked that.
- !place@lemm.ee
  
  Thanks, but do you know why the original one got deleted?

Dammit. I will install their app just for this. And also help any fuck spez too. But I am sure they will have bots to avoid that. We need bots to make this work.
- Hear me out:
  old android phones generate google accounts very fast! We use github codespaces or THC's segfault to organize this
- Or a lot of ThrowRAs... either way should work.
- You don’t even need to, just use the desktop site in browser.

Ultimately, this is how we fared with the central banner: Timelapse
- Thanks for uploading this, it's really cool
  
  If I had more time, it could have been even cooler. I would write all the sonification code in Python, which would allow assigning pitches to individual colors. That way, each flag would have its own (likely dissonant) chord, and battles would have an obvious way to tell who is winning, with the void having a low-pitched hum and the whiteout emitting a high-pitched "eek". However, I did not have nearly enough time for this little project so I just used amplitude modulation of white noise and did not encode any information in the frequency domain. At least the stereo channels have an intuitive mapping to the X-coordinate where changes are happening.
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