Scores killed in Israeli air strikes on families fleeing northern Gaza
Israeli air strikes have targeted convoys of people fleeing northern Gaza after Israel issued an order for people to leave their homes
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Any reputable sources for this?
I wouldn't be surprised if this is true, but we should be careful not to let misinformation take over, and "middleeasteye" dot net does not scream credible to me.
Here's a verification of a video showing some of the aftermath of the attacks by The Washington Post. Since WaPo sometimes changes links on breaking stories, a copy is below.
A graphic video verified by The Washington Post showed the aftermath of a deadly strike along Gaza’s main highway Friday, part of a wave of Israeli attacks that killed dozens and injured more than 200 people fleeing northern Gaza, according to the Palestinian Ministry of Health in Gaza.
The video, recorded along Salah Al-Deen road, shows bodies,- including several young children- strewn along the road as black smoke rises from vehicles engulfed in flames. On the north-facing side of the road, bodies are laid out amid personal belongings, including a bicycle, on flatbed trailers attached to a truck.
The video was first geolocated by open-source researchers Chris Osieck and Gabòr Friesen and confirmed by The Post.
Late Thursday, Israel ordered the evacuation of northern Gaza’s 1.1 million residents within 24 hours, the United Nations said. On Friday, the Israeli military dropped leaflets over Gaza City telling residents to “evacuate your homes immediately and go to the south.”
Hamas’s surprise incursion on Oct. 7 killed at least 1,300 people in Israel, authorities said. Palestinian officials said the subsequent Israeli strikes have killed more than 1,799 people in Gaza.
The Israel Defense Forces did not have an immediate response.
It's very, very hard to believe.
What's Israel's strategy with something like that?
If their intent is to murder innocents, there's easier ways to do it with better deniability.
Will be interesting to see what other reporting emerges.
Israel wants to grow until there is no more Palestine and they have uncontested land posession
There was no Palestine in 1900, it was the Ottoman Empire.
They collapsed after a spanking in WW1.
BBC explains it pretty well:
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The word Palestine derives from Philistia, the name given by Greek writers to the land of the Philistines, who in the 12th century BCE occupied a small pocket of land on the southern coast, between modern Tel Aviv–Yafo and Gaza. The name was revived by the Romans in the 2nd century CE in “Syria Palaestina,” designating the southern portion of the province of Syria, and made its way thence into Arabic, where it has been used to describe the region at least since the early Islamic era.
There's a difference between a historical description of the land, and a formal Nation.
Even Mandated Palestine wasn't Palestinian-run, it was British.
It feels like splitting hairs to comment that there was no Palestine pre 1900 because it had a different name. Especially when it was referred to as Palestine by Arabs for like 2000 years, it just wasn't officially a state.
Actually it sounds like a selective retelling of history designed to imply no one had any right to it or feelings of nationalism around it prior to WWII
IIRC Jews have called the land west of the river Jordan Israel for a long time, too, 3000 years or so?
So what do we do, get into a competition to see who can find the oldest historical documents? Or just accept that we have two (or more, really) groups of people that have historical and cultural import around the same region?
And more importantly, can we do that without the constant terrorism? I think we can all agree that terrorism is bad.
Or just accept that we have two (or more, really) groups of people that have historical and cultural import around the same region?
To be honest I don't care about anyones special fucking book. Tracing backwards the land belongs to:
The Palestinian peoples: 1940's-now
The Ottoman Empire: 1500's-1900's
The Christians: 11th century
?: 11c - 63bc
Romans: 63bc
Jewish peoples: 63bc-931bc
So by this whole "history culture" logic I have more of a right to Israel having been raised culturally Christian than the Jewish peoples.
But that's dumb. I'm gonna arbitrarily draw the line 100 years ago and say anyone after that can fuck off. If you have to go further back than great-great-great grandparents then you don't have a claim to it.
We can't even agree on what terrorism is. How can we agree it's bad? Israel using its forces to violently suppress a minority should be called terrorism, but it usually isn't because they're in power. It's also not called terrorism when the US bombs the fuck out of places.
Terrorism is only when those without power use violence. It's a bullshit term designed to incite emotion and not logical understanding.
It's really not if you know anything
A sound rebuttal.
Most of the major news outlets have picked this up, but their source is just the Hamas government. This at least claims to have talked to someone. Hard to know what's real, but I'm not sure even what resources the major publications have in Gaza. Seems like a dangerous place to be.
Middle East Eye does have a mostly factual rating from Media Bias Fact Check, with the mostly coming from them not revealing their ownership rather than failing fact checking.