U.S. citizen told "you have no rights" during immigration arrest speaks out
Border Patrol and the Florida Highway Patrol arrested Kenny Laynez, an 18-year-old high school senior who was on his way to work as a landscaper, back in May.
Laynez's phone continued recording after he was detained, capturing an exchange in which an officer tells another, "They're starting to resist more. We're gonna end up shooting some of them."
Another officer replies, "Just remember, you can smell that too with a $30,000 bonus."
These officers need to go to jail forever.
The people who warned against this when the PATRIOT Act passed were called “conspiracy theorists” at the time.
But he’s not white a real American, so no issues there….
/s
Does getting dragged out of your car trigger your “castle defense “ doctrine? Or what ever it is that FL calls it?
I don't live in Florida (I'm a West Coaster), but there are two legal doctrines used for defensive force by a citizen: 'Stand Your Ground" laws (which mainly preside in the South and Midwest), and the "Castle Doctine" (Largely applicable to all states).
The Castle Doctrine applies mainly to your home or property - If someone is breaking into your home/business, you are granted legal permission to stop them through force, usually with the requirement that you provide an opportunity for the intruder to retreat first before escalating. IIRC there is an ongoing debate on if vehicles are included as a "Castle".
The Stand Your Ground laws are usually based instead on wherever you have a legal right to be in - the street, a business, etc... and give you the right to engage in force against someone credibly threatening your life.
However, the obvious problem is that aspects of the Castle Doctrine (and the entirety of Stand Your Ground laws) are subjective in the "defender's" judgement on whether a situation justifies force to resolve situations. People have been killed over ludicrously petty disputes and the consequences of the law are applied very unequally, so you have this disconnect of people feeling like they have Carte Blanche to shoot whoever they disagree with, those who fear for their lives because they could be shot at essentially any time of day anywhere with no repercussions, and those who can't resolve their disputes using the laws because of discrimination.
I don't live in a state that has Stand Your Ground or a full Castle Doctrine, so I can't say for certain what things would be like in Florida, but I'm under the impression that they have both with minimal oversight.
I'm gonna repost this comment every time I see this type of post in this community:
“Mildly infuriating” is when you drop your only measuring spoon behind the oven two minutes after your longer-armed roommate leaves for a week-long trip, or when your cat won’t stop yowling to go out while you’re on an important work video call so you excuse yourself for a moment to let him out and he just stands at the door, sniffs the air, then turns back inside to sleep on the couch, or when you have to special-order paint from abroad to cover up a ding on your car because the color has been discontinued for a decade, only to find out after application that it doesn’t match because 15 years of sun exposure caused your car’s paint to fade.
There is nothing “mildly infuriating” about late stage capitalism, environmental degradation, and oligarchy fuckery… That’s just plain infuriating.
Edit: I originally came up with these "actually mildly infuriating" examples on the fly the last time I had to post this, but I think they could be better. I'm taking suggestions of other examples for when I inevitably have to post this comment again!
Thank you
I'm taking suggestions of other examples for when I inevitably have to post this comment again!
IT'S LIKE RAAAAAAAAAAAAAIN
ON YOUR WEDDING DAY!
That's not mildly infuriating either, it's ironic, duh!
(actually nothing listed in the lyrics is an example of irony and the song probably made us all a bit dumber as a result but damn if it isn't catchy af).
"They're starting to resist more. We're gonna end up shooting some of them."
And that's why people fucking cheer when cops get shot now. You pigs brought this upon yourselves.
"Just remember, you can smell that too with a $30,000 bonus."
What the fuck does that even mean?
It means you don't have to be able to effectively communicate at a minimum of 3rd grade education to join ICE. You can be an illiterate, inbred, fascist nazi incapable of forming complete sentences and get that paper. It's the American Dream!
I have to imagine a transcription error unless that is clearly heard on the recording
Rights, huh? If the Western world hadn't codified human decency, they wouldn't even pretend to have it. 😑