lemmy.ml is getting nothing new from lemmy.world, seem cut off since Saturday EDIT: fixed on Wednesday

I found one post from 12 hours ago that describes the problem: https://lemmy.ml/post/2650814 - but that's all I've seen. Content is way down on lemmy.ml with nothing coming in from .world

EDIT: seems that lemmy.ml is getting some content delivered to .world, but .world communities seem islands on .ml that only have local new posts/comments.

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I'll check the new way Lemmy detects dead servers, it's possible an outage caused lemmy.ml to think we're dead (we're not!) :-)
- think we're dead (we're not!)
  Speak for yourself.
  
  Ohh sorry to hear that. RIP
- Yiffit.net also had some problems with remote posts. Maybe worth checking if it the same problem.
  https://yiffit.net/post/745595
- Is there anyway you could also check fanaticus.social I am a mod on the Braves community there but I havent seen any new posts in days. If I go to the community via their instance, I show new posts.
  Example: Via Lemmy.World the newest post is 4 days old: https://lemmy.world/c/braves@fanaticus.social?dataType=Post&page=1&sort=New Via Fanaticus.Social the newest post is 17 hours old: https://fanaticus.social/c/braves?dataType=Post&page=1&sort=New
  I did notice they are on 0.18.2 where we are on 0.18.3. Is it as simple as that server needing to update?
  
  +1 to this. I've noticed that posts haven't been federating in !tampabaylightning@fanaticus.social either for the past several days.
  
  I wanted to piggy back off of your comment. Have you learned anything about what’s going on? I’m a mod over at https://lemmy.world/c/miamihurricanes@fanaticus.social and it seems posts haven’t federated for the better part of 2 weeks now.
  
  Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !braves@fanaticus.social?dataType=Post&page=1&sort=New, !braves@fanaticus.social
- Posted about this in Lemmy world support and on lemmy.ml support with screenshots
  https://lemmy.world/post/2424133
  Is this a better spot to post issues like this?

I wonder if it is because of the various outages on both instance and the new "dead instance" detection, lemmy.ml has temporarily stopped receiving updates?
The federation code now includes a check for dead instances which is used when sending activities. This helps to reduce the amount of outgoing POST requests, and also reduce server load.

I'm on Lemmy.world and still seeing new posts from Lemmy.ml
- example?
  EDIT: Ok, I see a lemmy.ml created a post: https://lemmy.world/post/2463337
  So far, I can't find any new content on lemmy.ml from .world

They stopped sending my instance (kbin) anything from 20:00 (utc) on the day they upgraded until around midnight the next morning (4 hours or so). Just stopped dead then resumed as if nothing happened.
I assumed they were slowly bringing federation back up and adding instances in batches. Maybe a related thing?

Slightly tangential, but why is "one of the two major Lemmy instances" using a TLD under the authority of the government of frigging MALI, a semi-failed state that has nothing whatsoever to do with Lemmy or its mission?!
Come on internet, grow up and show some respect for internet architecture. TLDs are not just for jokes or decoration, they actually mean something.
- It's because they were giving free domains for a long time. Then when they were recently being revoked, Dessalines paid for the domain to keep it (I'm guessing to avoid losing the current community+their m+l origins?)
- counterargument: TLDs have been a corporate-minded, US-centric joke since they were invented, the joke got even worse when ICANN wouldn't hand over authority to the UN, worse still with the naked cash grab / branding exercise that was gTLDS (remember the shakedown that was .xxx and .sucks?) and now that .amazon belongs to a creepy oligarch's predatory monopoly instead of the countries containing the ancient giant life-giving rainforest of the same name they may as well just change all TLDs to .clown and let DNS die in peace
  
  o jeez how could i have forgotten to mention the apex/nadir of this tragic farce, the .io extension? It belongs to the Chagos Islands, the residents of which the British government forced to leave in the 1970s so that the land could be given to the USA for a military base. The UN voted to ask the International Court of Justice to rule on whether the British government should give the islands back to the people who were removed, the ICJ said yes, the government of the failed state that is the UK (presumably under orders from their inverted colonial masters, the government of the failed state that is the USA) continues to tell everyone to fuck off.
  Meanwhile, guess who manages the .io TLD, and collects the profits from .io domain registrations? The UK government! 🎉☠
  @JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world if you're going to campaign on "respect for internet architecture" with TLDs, maybe start with the 9,999 techbros directly funding land theft through their mostly-very-shitty .io domain names, and leave the folks making Marxist-Leninist jokes (or phishing the US military lol) to enjoy .ml.
- It's a Marxist lenninist server, hence the ML. The developers of lemmy are m-ls.

On my lemmy.world account I see no content from lemmy.ml

Not good. Hopefully they can get things figured out quickly.

lemmy.ml is now getting some lemmy.world content

example:
https://lemmy.world/c/steam@lemmy.ml
https://lemmy.ml/c/steam
Sort both by New to see the problem. This sucks.
- Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !steam@lemmy.ml
  
  LOL Read the room, bot.

I can see content from lemmy.one and lemmy.ml from communities I'm subscribed to.

Why would be 2 biggest instances be defedarating from each other?
This would be a terrible choice. For me it’s enough that some instances are down from time to time.
- Where does it say they’ve defedarated?
  Seems like the federation is just broken for some reason, maybe load issues on Lemmy.world
  
  The title says that.
- It’s the Wild West out here. Different admins who have never worked together on this scale have to figure out how to work in digital society. It’s kind of like handing a libertarian the reins to government and watching how they slowly realize they have to govern instead of just complaining about those in power. It’s going to be messy, there are going to be blackouts, and at some point they’ll realize they can’t do everything they want and some users will complain that they sold out by blocking this or that.
  Just hang on for the ride.
  
  ... like handing a libertarian the reigns to government ...
  Reins. Handing the reins.

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